In article ,
Lawrence E. McKnight writes:
On 26 Nov 2003 17:44:01 GMT, bIX (Bill) wrote:
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The difference between Judeo-Cristianity and Islam, is
really a simple one, but quite profound. Christians
are saved by faith, and their discipline comes from
within themselves, while Moslems are saved by their
works, and their discipline comes from without/others.

Hmm. Just who are you including under 'Christians'?

Pretty much all Christians, except perhaps for those who
think they need to *do* something, other than confess,
repent and ask/seek after Him, to be saved. I am not real
knowledgable about Catholicism, but, acts of contrition
aside, I think they too are *saved* through their faith.
Are they not?



Bill
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On 1 Dec 2003 15:57:01 GMT, bIX Xcoop@unii ix.sas.com (Bill) wrote:


In article ,
Lawrence E. McKnight writes:
On 26 Nov 2003 17:44:01 GMT, bIX (Bill) wrote:
snips
The difference between Judeo-Cristianity and Islam, is
really a simple one, but quite profound. Christians
are saved by faith, and their discipline comes from
within themselves, while Moslems are saved by their
works, and their discipline comes from without/others.

Hmm. Just who are you including under 'Christians'?

Pretty much all Christians, except perhaps for those who
think they need to *do* something, other than confess,
repent and ask/seek after Him, to be saved. I am not real
knowledgable about Catholicism, but, acts of contrition
aside, I think they too are *saved* through their faith.
Are they not?

Nope. Catholics pay more attention to James that most other
Christians.



Bill
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In article ,
Lawrence E. McKnight writes:
On 1 Dec 2003 15:57:01 GMT, bIX Xcoop@unii ix.sas.com (Bill) wrote:

In article ,
Lawrence E. McKnight writes:
On 26 Nov 2003 17:44:01 GMT, bIX (Bill) wrote:
snips
The difference between Judeo-Cristianity and Islam, is
really a simple one, but quite profound. Christians
are saved by faith, and their discipline comes from
within themselves, while Moslems are saved by their
works, and their discipline comes from without/others.

Hmm. Just who are you including under 'Christians'?

Pretty much all Christians, except perhaps for those who
think they need to *do* something, other than confess,
repent and ask/seek after Him, to be saved. I am not real
knowledgable about Catholicism, but, acts of contrition
aside, I think they too are *saved* through their faith.
Are they not?

Nope. Catholics pay more attention to James that most other
Christians.

Well, it is wrong IMO to pay strict attention to any one part of
the Bible, while neglecting the rest. I doubt Catholics in general
do that, but as I said/wrote earlier, I do not know that much about
the Catholic faith. I have read thru the Protestant Bible tho. 8)
While it may appear from James' text (alone) that works are important,
they are not, IMO. Yes, we know each other by our works, aka the
fruit of the spirit, but that alone will not save you. It all
starts with faith, and that faith is seen in one's works. Note
that I emphasize *saved* above. I think you err in either your
understanding or your response, ...or both. IMO, FWIW, FYI, YMMV
8^)

Bill
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