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Oftentimes "the" comes out crackled and generally it sounds like the
mic is out of phase or something. Any idea how to get a better quality
voice track? I can post an mp3 if anybody wants to hear what I mean.
The gear: Neumann U87 ai, Focusrite Voicemaster Pro, MOTU 828MKII, Mac
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there is a pop filter. some words still crackle and the mic sounds out
of phase.

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Oftentimes "the" comes out crackled and generally it
sounds like the
mic is out of phase or something.


there is a pop filter. some words still crackle and the
mic sounds out of phase.


Just because the spec sheet says that the mic has a pop
filter doesn't mean that it is effective enough for every
user.

I work with a lot of poorly-trained and poorly-practiced
vocalists. I routinely put foam pop filters on mics like
Audix OM5, OM6, and CAD 95. They already have pretty good
internal pop filters. On occasion double-filtering isn't
enough.

A properly-trained vocal artist can work with sensitive
mics and *no* pop filter.

There's a story going around about a well-known spoken word
artist who it is said will physically destroy any pop filter
placed in front of him for him to use at a gig. He thinks
(and recordings of his voice seem to confirm) that he
doesn't need one. Forcing one on him is an insult.

OTOH, I've done a tiny bit of spoken word work. When I
listened to the recording I made of the event, I popped a
double-filtered mic good and hard about 6 times in about a
half hour of talking. A true artist is a joy to watch and
hear working. When it comes to voice, that ain't me! ;-) No
training, no talent, and not enough rehearsing.



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Have you tried a different cable?


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Oftentimes "the" comes out crackled and generally it sounds like the
mic is out of phase or something. Any idea how to get a better quality
voice track? I can post an mp3 if anybody wants to hear what I mean.
The gear: Neumann U87 ai, Focusrite Voicemaster Pro, MOTU 828MKII, Mac
G5, Logic Pro 7.1.



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there is a pop filter. some words still crackle and the mic sounds out
of phase.


Are you clipping the preamp?

Is the vocalist too close to the mike?

What does "out of phase" sound like? Do you mean it sounds like comb
filtering? That's mostly apt to be a room problem.
--scott

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Oftentimes "the" comes out crackled and generally it sounds like the
mic is out of phase or something. Any idea how to get a better quality
voice track? I can post an mp3 if anybody wants to hear what I mean.
The gear: Neumann U87 ai, Focusrite Voicemaster Pro, MOTU 828MKII, Mac
G5, Logic Pro 7.1.


The best vocal recordings that I have gotten (as judged by others) was when
I placed the microphone about 15 inches away from the singer/announcer,
above nose height (about forehead level), aimed directly at the mouth, with
the high-pass filter on the mic engaged. The singer/announcer was instructed
to sing straight ahead (or at least not tilting up towrds the mic), thereby
projecting blasts under the microphone. No pop filter was required.

For some signers, you can't use this method because they will not work this
way (I certainly unstand this), so you'll have to try something else in
those cases.

Mike


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Michael Putrino wrote:
The best vocal recordings that I have gotten (as judged by others) was when
I placed the microphone about 15 inches away from the singer/announcer,
above nose height (about forehead level), aimed directly at the mouth, with
the high-pass filter on the mic engaged. The singer/announcer was instructed
to sing straight ahead (or at least not tilting up towrds the mic), thereby
projecting blasts under the microphone. No pop filter was required.

For some signers, you can't use this method because they will not work this
way (I certainly unstand this), so you'll have to try something else in
those cases.


This may involve giving them a dummy microphone to sing into, and a real
microphone going to tape.
---scott

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Try a different thing:
mic 1 foot away and 1 foot above mouth level.
Figure of 8 pointed at the mouth.

Please let me know what do you think about it.
F.




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Try a different thing:
mic 1 foot away and 1 foot above mouth level.
Figure of 8 pointed at the mouth.

Please let me know what do you think about it.
F.



I suspect that might be good in a very good room. However, many vocal
recordings are made in a vocal booth. In such cases, I can't imagine a
figure-eight would be a good choice. But then...I haven't tried it.

Mike P.


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