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David Morgan \(MAMS\)
 
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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message ...
David Morgan wrote ...

How can I possibly get a virus that does not come through e-mail?


That is a dangerously naive view of your risks. You should
keep better informed about the kinds of malware that is
out there. There are now websites that can download and
run undesirable code simply by going to the URL.



Perhaps ignorance is bliss. I never knew of 'possession' until
"The Exorcist". ;-) I don't think that any place that I'm going
to be visiting will be dealing out malicious code. I can't imagine
a URL or it's host getting away with that for too long. Malware
and spyware aren't exactly virii, but I'm aware that staying on
the net after obtaining either of the above can lead to serious
problems that might lead to a virus. However....

Given the precautions I outlined earlier, my question stands.

DM



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"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote:

"Kayte" wrote in message...

I really feel there is no need for my audio box to be
on the network at all...


Well, you know how I feel.

Today I went up (the network people are 2 floors up from the
programmers, data entry, and "multimedia content" (that's me and the
video guy) people) and explained that I really would like them to stop


Maybe it's just a little more communication then... and in doing
so, perhaps taking the advice offered by "SSJVCmag" in the
documenting of the time lost by this change and it's subsequent
troubles.

and showed them parts of the SF thread
about how much memory sound forge uses.


It's not that it uses so much memory, it's moreover that it is simply
"operation intensive". Once the software is churning numbers, it
stands to reason that it shouldn't be interrupted by *anything*, let
alone the silly background processes of the new OS and the
superfluous software others would have you install.

Best of luck again,

DM


Document the time lost to this, and then submit a bill for all the
time you wasted duplicating the work, and send that through your
internal accounting system against the IT department. If you have
a boss that doesn't want to do this, then remind him/her of the
criminal laws around falsification of time cards/billing records.
( hint: It's usually near fraud in your local legal code. )
Tell the absolute truth and the full story if anyone questions the
invoice.

--Dale


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On 17/08/05 22:59, in article , "Richard
Crowley" wrote:

(...)
People who save big, valuable files over the network are just
asking for trouble. Especially in an environment already known
for its agressive and unpredictable network/computer support gang.



Speaking of agressive network support: anyone remember BOFH?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04...ing_the_fight/


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Chris Hornbeck wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:48:40 -0700, "Richard Crowley"
wrote:
...snip...

IOW, is an innocent site safe?



Thanks Richard. Here at home I'm "second star to the right,
then straight on til morning" but my beloved day job is very
vulnerable.

Chris Hornbeck


Neverland? Cool, how's Michael Jackson doing these days? G

Later...

Ron Capik cynic in training
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On 2005-08-18
said:
People who save big, valuable files over the network are just
asking for trouble. Especially in an environment already known
for its agressive and unpredictable network/computer support gang.

Speaking of agressive network support: anyone remember BOFH?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04...ing_the_fight/
Cool! I've got a text file of a bunch of those stories. ARe these
straight text files also?
Great fun!
I especially liked this one:
I'm bored senseless, so I pass the time by reading users email. I must
admit that today's lot is PARTICULARLY boring, not one good message in
all of them. I was expecting at LEAST some veiled reference to a grope in
a storeroom, but nothing. So I'm bored senseless by the usual drivel
about some relative's surgery and how the weather is over the other side
of the world - that sort of crap.

To relieve the boredom, I remove a e-mail party invite from a user's mail
and post it under the senders username to to alt.singles.with.severe
social. dysfunctions on news, and make a note in my diary to be there with my
camcorder. Should be a blast!

Next in line is the online medical records database, in which the
company doctors store the current medical histories of the staff. I grep
it quickly for "herpes" and "syphillus" and sell the results to the local
scum newspaper. I cover my tracks by adding an entry to one of the
doctor's online electronic diarys for yesterday saying "$500, Med Recs To
Paper" I think that's all it should take..

I move some tapes from the racks to the trolley to make it look like we
really use them, then start looking thru archie listings for a hidden
x-gif site. I find one then start a batch job running under some user's
account to get them all back, charged to him. I make sure he's got
enough disk for the job by removing any files not related to the task at
hand. Like all those "Doctorate Final Report" papers that have got quite
large in the last couple of weeks.

I go back to the mail now, as something's bound to have happened. I do a
grep on all mail files for the words "pregnant" and "family way", and
post them anonymously to the local general interest newsgroup.

Then, before anything can happen, the power goes out! The next second,
the phone rings.

"Hello?" I say, annoyed - the coyote was just about to kill roadrunner
again!

"Has the comput.."

I hang up. This is a matter of life or death. Quick as I can I rip the
computer power cable out of the UPS and plug the TV in. Damn! Wylie
missed again!

Meantime, all the alarms are going off like crazy as the disks spin down,
but that's ok, because my Mac and Terminal are hardwired to the UPS in
any case; and I'm at the Beer Factory level in Dark Castle too.

The phone rings, so I pull the PABX breaker on the UPS switchboard and it
stops. Now to look like I'm working. I break out the puck and the
hockey stick and play a little one-on-wall. From the observation window
it'll look like I'm being blindingly efficient, as per usual.

10 Minutes later, the power is back and we're two HDA's down, but what
the hell, I haven't lost a man, I'm onto the final screen, and there's
more cartoons!

The phone rings, it's a luser. (What a surprise)

"Computer Room" I say, being efficient

"Hello, when will the compu..."

I hang up.

I'm doing well in the screen, all I need do is get past the wizard who
throws spells at you and I'm in!

The phone rings again. I put it on hands free

"Computer Room" I shout, still deep in the game.

"I've lost my files" a user whines over the loudspeaker

"You bet you have" I say, as my concentration lapses just long enough for
me to get zapped by the wizard.

"What was your username?" I say, all sweetness and smiles

He tells me, I look, and he's right. ****, and I didn't even do it!

Not to be outdone, I change his login directory to the null device, set
his path to "." and redefine the command "news" to execute a script in
his old login directory to send a nasty message to the equal
opportunities officer, then delete itself.

Now that's trying!

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wrote:
On 2005-08-18 said:
People who save big, valuable files over the network are just
asking for trouble. Especially in an environment already known
for its agressive and unpredictable network/computer support gang.

Speaking of agressive network support: anyone remember BOFH?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04...ing_the_fight/
Cool! I've got a text file of a bunch of those stories. ARe these
straight text files also?


Yes, all of these were originally written by Nathan Torkington, who was
one of the talk.bizarre regulars back in the early nineties, before Usenet
turned to crap. He posted all of these things there on a regular basis
and folks used to really look forward to them.
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On 2005-08-19
(ScottDorsey) said:
I wrote:
support gang. Speaking of agressive network support: anyone
remember BOFH?
http://www.theregister.co.
uk/2004/04/01/bofh_taking_the_fight/ Cool! I've got a text file
of a bunch of those stories. ARe these straight text files also?

Yes, all of these were originally written by Nathan Torkington, who
was one of the talk.bizarre regulars back in the early nineties,
before Usenet turned to crap. He posted all of these things there
on a regular basis and folks used to really look forward to them.

COol1 I'll go have a look. I've got a bunch of them that I got from
the FIdonet "funny" echo back in my bbs sysop days. Loved them!
sEnt them to a friend of mine who didn't read that echo via fidonet
email. Said friend was a high muckamuck for the STate of Iowa in
comptroller's data processing. HE was sort of amused too.



Richard Webb,
Electric SPider Productions, New Orleans, La.
REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email

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"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message
news:JfKMe.9872$Xw5.6579@trnddc02...

Then you know little to nothing about dedicated audio workstations and
why it's almost essential that such CPU and software intensive apps be
left uninterrupted. Obviously, the pea-brained nerds that took over this
poster's facility a few weeks ago have no clue, either. ;-)


I worked for a short while in the engineering department of a college; and
that had similar problems.

What seems to have happened was that there was a horrendous problem of
computer maintenance across the college - different versions of software on
different computers causing continual timewasting for document reformatting
and so on - which the computer department as charged with tackling, and
which it solved.

Unfortunately, its solution ... which prevented users installing programs on
computers ... failed to address the needs of electronics engineering, the
music department, and graphics technology.

Tim


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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
...

If you don't have an IT Nazi looking out for you, the computer
has no business being connected to a network which is connected
to the Internet. Thats just life in today's world whether we like it
or not.


Sure, but you need a *competent* IT Nazi. Destroying the work of the
enterprise's staff is incompetent. And if the IT staff don't understand
that, I'm sure the Chief Executive will explain it to them, when he hands
them their dismissal notices.

Tim (who has been supporting computer systems for over 30 years ...)


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