"Predrag Trpkov" laid this on me:
"Harvey Gerst" wrote in message
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Frank Stearns wrote:

mcp6453 writes:

I am getting ready to do some post processing on a LOT of voice-only
files. It never ceases to amaze me how transparent the RNC is in the
Super Nice Mode for this purpose. It beats everything else I've
tried by a LONG shot. Way to go, Mark!

I just sold my RNC. Nice GR control performance, but even looping
through the box with *no* GR lost a lot of sparkle. Things got dull
and "dark" sounding. (Sorry to use that word, but it's fairly
accurate.) Even the "bypass" setting didn't seem to help.

Perhaps the i/o ciruits are a bit on the cheap. Maybe the thing
could be tweaked, but I didn't what to take the time.

I did find a used DBX1066. If you don't hit it too hard it can be
quite effective and transparent. And while there is some sonic loss
just looping through with no GR, it's nowhere nearly as noticeable as
the RNC.

As always, YMMV.

Frank Stearns
Mobile Audio

Interesting. When I measured the RNC a few years ago, it was flat,
out to around 200kHz - and that was with 6dB of gain reduction.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio http://www.ITRstudio.com/


Strange indeed. Could it have been an interfacing problem, by any
chance?

Predrag

I like my RNC, but I notice a similar thing with mine. I wouldn't say
it's as dramatic as what he is reporting . With my setup, it's more of a
subtle loss of sparkle, but not all the way to dull. I should note, I use it
through an RNP mostly, he used a GR, that could (likely does) contribute to
the difference.
Maybe it is an interfacing problem, if nobody else notices it but me
and him.
In which case...what sort of interfacing problem could cause this?

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Sean S writes:

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I like my RNC, but I notice a similar thing with mine. I wouldn't say
it's as dramatic as what he is reporting . With my setup, it's more of a
subtle loss of sparkle, but not all the way to dull. I should note, I use it
through an RNP mostly, he used a GR, that could (likely does) contribute to
the difference.

Oops, sorry; when I used the shorthand "GR" I meant "gain reduction" and
not Great River. (Good preamps, though.) I am running 10 channels of Grace
Designs preamps so yes I have gotten used to catching a lot of nuance from
acoustic/classical music sources.

Plus, with the help of many here I've had this ongoing and for the most
part successful project in rebuilding/enhancing my Soundcraft Delta
console to preserve those subtle sonic aspects. I also have pretty good
monitoring (soffit-mounted Tannoy SGM10Bs with Mastering Lab crossovers
in a good room).

So when something affects the sound, I'm likely to notice.

Frank Stearns
Mobile Audio
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In article l writes:

I like my RNC, but I notice a similar thing with mine. I wouldn't say
it's as dramatic as what he is reporting . With my setup, it's more of a
subtle loss of sparkle, but not all the way to dull.

Any compressor (without additional compensation) will change the shape
of the attack of the envelope of the signal it's processing. This will
affect the "brightness" of the audio. Sometimes we intentionally do
this intentionally, other times we want to minimize it. For what
appears (from the front panel knobs) to be the same settings, some
compressors just sound different. That's why we like to have so many
of them.

One man's "subtle loss of sparkle" is another many's "dull" so you
have to take these one word reviews for what they are.


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