In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

Sorry, I don't bother worrying how long I should wait before answering
a
post. This afternoon, I checked my messages and found yours was there
and had been for twenty minutes, taking your word for it.

I came home from work just now, and here's your message, seven hours
old.

Work was fun, BTW, and involved earplugs.

My take on this is that you either operate a jackhammer or
work at a shooting range. Good thing you have those
earplugs.

No, and no. Yes, I need those earplugs: the work environment peaks at
102 dB.

Car-assembly plant? Jet engine test facility? Clown at kids'
birthday parties?

Musician.

Stephen

MINe 109 said:

No, and no. Yes, I need those earplugs: the work environment peaks at
102 dB.

Car-assembly plant? Jet engine test facility? Clown at kids'
birthday parties?

Musician.

Harold read a book about music once. For all these years, he has
believed that musicians are magical creatures who exist only in fairy
tales.

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Harold read a book about music once. For all these years, he has
believed that musicians are magical creatures who exist only in fairy
tales.

For the record, I do want to point out that I also have
published two books chock full of record reviews.

Howard Ferstler

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:55:48 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Harold read a book about music once. For all these years, he has
believed that musicians are magical creatures who exist only in fairy
tales.

For the record, I do want to point out that I also have
published two books chock full of record reviews.

How many cost more than $5.98 new at Amazon?

Brother Horace the Tone-Deaf said:

Harold read a book about music once. For all these years, he has
believed that musicians are magical creatures who exist only in fairy
tales.

For the record, I do want to point out that I also have
published two books chock full of record reviews.

Do you mean records as in vinyl? I'm sure you had a lot of good things to say
about them.

George Middius wrote:

Brother Horace the Tone-Deaf said:

For the record, I do want to point out that I also have
published two books chock full of record reviews.

Do you mean records as in vinyl? I'm sure you had a lot of good things to say
about them.

These days, the CD is a record. Vinyl is, well, archaic. How
many record-review books (dealing with either the LP or the
CD) have you published, tweako?

Howard Ferstler

Brother Horace the Prematurely Ancient said:

For the record, I do want to point out that I also have
published two books chock full of record reviews.

Do you mean records as in vinyl? I'm sure you had a lot of good things to say
about them.

These days, the CD is a record. Vinyl is, well, archaic. How
many record-review books (dealing with either the LP or the
CD) have you published, tweako?

Oh, this is a dick-measuring contest? A minute ago you were begging me to
buy one of your sad little books.

I will say this about that, though: If my writing were as lifeless as
yours, I'd hang up my keyboard and become a fisherman.

George "Gapping Ass" Middius :

I will say this about that, though: If my writing were as lifeless as
yours, I'd hang up my keyboard and become a fisherman.

Note that with your keyboard you have only fished Art "Tiny" Sackman... :-D

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

Sorry, I don't bother worrying how long I should wait before answering
a
post. This afternoon, I checked my messages and found yours was there
and had been for twenty minutes, taking your word for it.

I came home from work just now, and here's your message, seven hours
old.

Work was fun, BTW, and involved earplugs.

My take on this is that you either operate a jackhammer or
work at a shooting range. Good thing you have those
earplugs.

No, and no. Yes, I need those earplugs: the work environment peaks at
102 dB.

Car-assembly plant? Jet engine test facility? Clown at kids'
birthday parties?

Musician.

Stephen

At 102 dB? Yoiks. We are talking about music degradation of
an extreme nature when ear plugs must be worn during a
performance.

Howard Ferstler

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:54:48 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

Sorry, I don't bother worrying how long I should wait before answering
a
post. This afternoon, I checked my messages and found yours was there
and had been for twenty minutes, taking your word for it.

I came home from work just now, and here's your message, seven hours
old.

Work was fun, BTW, and involved earplugs.

My take on this is that you either operate a jackhammer or
work at a shooting range. Good thing you have those
earplugs.

No, and no. Yes, I need those earplugs: the work environment peaks at
102 dB.

Car-assembly plant? Jet engine test facility? Clown at kids'
birthday parties?

Musician.

Stephen

At 102 dB? Yoiks. We are talking about music degradation of
an extreme nature when ear plugs must be worn during a
performance.

I take it then that your system at home never hits 102 dB. Good for
you, Howard.

"dave weil" wrote in message
...

I take it then that your system at home never hits 102 dB. Good for
you, Howard.


Maybe he has Quads!



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dave weil wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:54:48 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

At 102 dB? Yoiks. We are talking about music degradation of
an extreme nature when ear plugs must be worn during a
performance.

I take it then that your system at home never hits 102 dB. Good for
you, Howard.

Generally, 100 dB peaks are tops, and then only with action
movies. Never with music, even pop stuff. Ironically, this
means that I probably have four times the total system amp
power I need.

Howard Ferstler

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:34:39 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

dave weil wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:54:48 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

At 102 dB? Yoiks. We are talking about music degradation of
an extreme nature when ear plugs must be worn during a
performance.

I take it then that your system at home never hits 102 dB. Good for
you, Howard.

Generally, 100 dB peaks are tops, and then only with action
movies. Never with music, even pop stuff.

Ten you very likely never listen to orchestral music at lifelike
volumes.

Ironically, this
means that I probably have four times the total system amp
power I need.

Yep - that's money that could have been spent on software.

(the Ferstler Imperative)

dave weil wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:34:39 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

dave weil wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:54:48 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

At 102 dB? Yoiks. We are talking about music degradation of
an extreme nature when ear plugs must be worn during a
performance.

I take it then that your system at home never hits 102 dB. Good for
you, Howard.

Generally, 100 dB peaks are tops, and then only with action
movies. Never with music, even pop stuff.

Ten you very likely never listen to orchestral music at lifelike
volumes.

Sure, live orchestral ensembles can get louder than that.
However, in small listening rooms SPLs at live-music levels
are more obnoxious than they would be in larger spaces. I
suggest you get a good SPL meter and monitor just how loud
the orchestral peaks are when you listen at home.

Ironically, this
means that I probably have four times the total system amp
power I need.

Yep - that's money that could have been spent on software.

(the Ferstler Imperative)

High power is cheap, and anyway, I got a great deal on the
gear. If my big, 23-year-old Carver M500 finally craps out I
will revert to using just the amps in my Yamaha RX-Z1
receiver. As it is, I use its two main amps to power that
custom-built center speaker and use the Carver to power the
mains.

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler said:

No, and no. Yes, I need those earplugs: the work environment peaks at
102 dB.

Car-assembly plant? Jet engine test facility? Clown at kids'
birthday parties?

Musician.

At 102 dB? Yoiks. We are talking about music degradation of
an extreme nature when ear plugs must be worn during a
performance.


Are you aware of the SPL of a symphony orchestra when sitting in the
middle of it?

--

"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005

Sander deWaal wrote:

Howard Ferstler said:

No, and no. Yes, I need those earplugs: the work environment peaks at
102 dB.

Car-assembly plant? Jet engine test facility? Clown at kids'
birthday parties?

Musician.

At 102 dB? Yoiks. We are talking about music degradation of
an extreme nature when ear plugs must be worn during a
performance.

Are you aware of the SPL of a symphony orchestra when sitting in the
middle of it?

I would imagine that it is pretty impressive if one is
sitting right in front of the horn sections. I wonder how
many classical musicians wear ear plugs when working that
way. I also wonder if such ear plug use would make it
difficult for the musicians to get their auditory clues and
cues correctly.

Howard Ferstler

"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message
...
Sander deWaal wrote:

Howard Ferstler said:

No, and no. Yes, I need those earplugs: the work environment peaks
at
102 dB.

Car-assembly plant? Jet engine test facility? Clown at kids'
birthday parties?

Musician.

At 102 dB? Yoiks. We are talking about music degradation of
an extreme nature when ear plugs must be worn during a
performance.

Are you aware of the SPL of a symphony orchestra when sitting in the
middle of it?

I would imagine that it is pretty impressive if one is
sitting right in front of the horn sections. I wonder how
many classical musicians wear ear plugs when working that
way. I also wonder if such ear plug use would make it
difficult for the musicians to get their auditory clues and
cues correctly.


In my younger days, playing and conducting,
I never had such problems. It didn't seem so
loud up on the stage.



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"Clyde Slick" said:

Are you aware of the SPL of a symphony orchestra when sitting in the
middle of it?

I would imagine that it is pretty impressive if one is
sitting right in front of the horn sections. I wonder how
many classical musicians wear ear plugs when working that
way. I also wonder if such ear plug use would make it
difficult for the musicians to get their auditory clues and
cues correctly.

In my younger days, playing and conducting,
I never had such problems. It didn't seem so
loud up on the stage.


It exceeds 100 dB SPL.

--

"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

No, and no. Yes, I need those earplugs: the work environment peaks at
102 dB.

Car-assembly plant? Jet engine test facility? Clown at kids'
birthday parties?

Musician.

At 102 dB? Yoiks. We are talking about music degradation of
an extreme nature when ear plugs must be worn during a
performance.

No, the volume is an idiomatic requirement.

And, no, I don't play the viola.

Stephen