On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:12:53 -0400, wrote
(in article .com):

Hey there,

Am I the only one with a non-functioning Mbox? I've had this thing for
a year and every time I try to get it to work, I spend a day and a half
trying everything, pulling my hair out and not doing the project I
wanted to, and then leave it for another 6 months.

I get constant 9129 and 9093 errors, despite having shut off every
extension, disconnecting my wireless, etc. I can't record reliably for
longer than one minute. I've looked all over the DUC and answer base.

I have a nice T41 laptop that I think is one of DIGI's recomended
computers.

Is it wrong to think that DIGI should provide a list of things to do to
absolutely make this thing work? I feel like I paid $350 something for
a kit.

The worst part is that all I need to do is record one or two tracks for
NPR type radio things. I'm wondering if I should put this thing on
EBay and get a USB soundcard that I can use with some stable audio
editor? I tried using Audacity, but the latency is annoying.

Any suggestions? I'm pulling my hair out right now.

Thanks
Paul


The digidesign DUC (digidesign users conference) is a very useful resource.
Go to their site and click on support, then the duc.

Ty Ford



-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

Ty,

I've done everything on their website, twice. I can't say that they
are particularly helpful with any of this. More like they are
negligent. I think it would be reasonable to expect a clear listing of
things to do, but for the most part it's a bunch of hints and tips that
might work.

I've already reinstalled Windows, protools and everything else trying
to get this thing to work.

Paul

In article . com writes:

I think it would be reasonable to expect a clear listing of
things to do, but for the most part it's a bunch of hints and tips that
might work.

This is the way things go when you're trying to support a program in
an environment that you can never be sure of. It's a series of
try-this-try-that, stop when you think you got it working, and then
see what else might be broken.

I've been telling some virus-related stories here lately and I just
discovered this morning that I can't run the update to Zone Alarm. It
just won't run at all. I'm beginning to suspect that something is
still messed up in Windows (though I haven't resorted to a re-install)
perhaps related to a temporary directory that can't be found. But the
lack of error messages makes troubleshooting difficult.

You do the best you can, and when you decide that you've wasted enough
time on it, you cut your losses and try something else. There's always
a market for your M-Box on eBay.


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and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

I'm at work now, so not able to test this out, but from some
conversations on the DUC it seems like my problem might be using a USB
2.0 hard drive. I think (hope) that it might be interfering with the
MBOX. This would explain a lot.

Actually I would really prefer to just use my C drive to record on. I
know it is not ideal, but that would be a lot more portable and I have
minimal plug in and track count needs. If that worked and I could back
up and archive to the external drive I would be fine.

here's to hoping. I wish I hadn't installed SP2 last night in a fit of
desperation, but we shall see what happens.

I still think that support could be a lot better. I've had more
trouble with Digidesign stuff than anything else I've ever used.
Actually, it's the ONLY stuff that ever gives me any trouble, other
than an Epson scanner that I returned.


Thanks
Paul

wrote in message...

Actually I would really prefer to just use my C drive to record on.

I recommend not using your system drive to record on. Throw a
partition on there and dedicate the new part to your recording.

here's to hoping. I wish I hadn't installed SP2 last night in a fit of
desperation, but we shall see what happens.

In a fit of desperation? After two people responded that SP 2
had caused them problems? Odd.

I still think that support could be a lot better. I've had more
trouble with Digidesign stuff than anything else I've ever used.

I've heard support is questionable.

Actually, it's the ONLY stuff that ever gives me any trouble, other
than an Epson scanner that I returned.

Then why didn't you return the M-Box a year ago when it didn't work?

DM

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:51:34 -0400, wrote
(in article .com):

I'm at work now, so not able to test this out, but from some
conversations on the DUC it seems like my problem might be using a USB
2.0 hard drive. I think (hope) that it might be interfering with the
MBOX. This would explain a lot.

Actually I would really prefer to just use my C drive to record on. I
know it is not ideal, but that would be a lot more portable and I have
minimal plug in and track count needs. If that worked and I could back
up and archive to the external drive I would be fine.

here's to hoping. I wish I hadn't installed SP2 last night in a fit of
desperation, but we shall see what happens.

I still think that support could be a lot better. I've had more
trouble with Digidesign stuff than anything else I've ever used.
Actually, it's the ONLY stuff that ever gives me any trouble, other
than an Epson scanner that I returned.


Thanks
Paul


Whoa!

I'm NOT a PC guy, but in Mac land, the deal is you put the program on your
system drive and the audio media (sessions) on another preferrably internal
5400 rpm minimum, (7200 rpm better) drive.

I don't know that digi supports USB 2. Anybody?

Regards,

Ty Ford




-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message...

I've been telling some virus-related stories here lately and I just
discovered this morning that I can't run the update to Zone Alarm. It
just won't run at all. I'm beginning to suspect that something is
still messed up in Windows (though I haven't resorted to a re-install)
perhaps related to a temporary directory that can't be found. But the
lack of error messages makes troubleshooting difficult.


Is this your Win98SE box ??

DM

In article nNore.12570$gL4.12061@trnddc07 writes:

related to a temporary directory that can't be found. But the
lack of error messages makes troubleshooting difficult.

Is this your Win98SE box ??

Nope, on the Win2000 day-to-day computer. I fixed the temporary
directory path problem today by changing the environment setting to
something else, then changing it back to what it should be.

I'm guessing that this got changed in the registry. I wonder what else
got changed, and how long it will take me to find it.

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I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message news:znr1118712585k@trad...

In article nNore.12570$gL4.12061@trnddc07 writes:

related to a temporary directory that can't be found. But the
lack of error messages makes troubleshooting difficult.

Is this your Win98SE box ??

Nope, on the Win2000 day-to-day computer. I fixed the temporary
directory path problem today by changing the environment setting to
something else, then changing it back to what it should be.

I'm guessing that this got changed in the registry. I wonder what else
got changed, and how long it will take me to find it.


In my 98SE systems, I use the System File Checker constantly.

I had some issues with the Microsoft security patches from March...
Security Update for Windows 98 (KB888113) and Security Update
for Windows 98 (KB891711) seemed to cause scripting errors when
surfing the web. Turns out that something happened to both my IE
preferences and to the manner in which Zone Alarm looked at web
sites.

I can't be real specific, most of this is a wee bit over my head.

Anyway, Zone Alarm expired at the end of March, and the stupid
web site refused to accept the passwords I had set up for upgrading
over the web, so I just went out and bought the newest version.

This new version has become bloated and invasive, something that I
used to praise ZA of *not* being. Even though I was upset that it
was writing things into boot reminders (DOS), I decided to go ahead
with the available on-line upgrade. It doubled those entries and added
even more BS that is totally unecessary... anti-virus monitoring ?!?!?
Holy smoke... now Zone Alarm is trying to tell me how to run my PC.
The actions that some of the settings used to take had totally changed,
and using my old settings, Zone Alarm was blocking even the most
simple little animated .gifs from fully loading. Finally, after much wasted
time, I managed to get stable surfing back in place.

Well... along come two more Microsoft updates in May.... Cumulative
Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB890923),
and *another* copy of Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711).
The latter of which installed itself in two different locations and if you
disable it in startup, or uninstall one copy (which is all that shows up
in add/remove), then the other copy, written into the boot, kicks in.

On the first re-boot after this, the blue screen of death greeted me
with great anger. Before it was over, windows was refusing to boot
in any manner other than 'safe' mode. I have no idea what the cause
of this was, but it's a symptom that apparently hundreds of people have
shared. I don't even know what I did to finally restore my system, and
it was a couple of hours in a solid state of shock and panic before I was
seeing signs of the system coming back to life and it would boot without
going in safe mode. Disabling Zone Alarm allowed me to start resetting
things like my screen resolution and other items that were affected.
Restarting with ZA let me reset it's security configurations slowly
but surely until everything seemed to return to what appreared to be
normal.

My best assumption, is that the last few security updates were more
than meets the eye. Both Microsoft and Zone Alarm had some odd
interpretations of security implementation, and they were in *serious*
conflict with one another.

As the days have passed, problems have again begun to rear their heads
with me changing nothing. Once again, ZA is not allowing simple .gifs
and a great deal of scripting to load from web pages. I've checked my
setting over and over again, and nothing is different from what I've done
for the past three years *except* these recent so-called security patches
and the new version of Zone Alarm.

Once I have everything backed up and can go to storage for my mother-
board drivers and a couple of pieces of software, I'm reloading Windows
for the first time in over 4 years... and I am going back to Version 3 of
Zone Alarm, and I do not plan on installing any updates from Microsoft
that were released after December of 2004.

Call me paranoid or delusional, but these patches seem to me to be
compromising security rather than fixing it. Zone Alarm no longer
reports to me when my IP address changes, and a few other little
anomalies that don't make any sense.

Lo and behold, today there are two more security patches for Win98...

I just have the oddest feeling that these are opening doors rather than
closing them. I hope the same upgrade & patch path is available and
the individual patches haven't been written into something cumulative.
I'd really like my computer to work again with the settings for security
that I have chosen in the past, without my web browser being more
or less compromised by these "fixes".

DM

In article RDFre.2630$kj5.2370@trnddc03 writes:

In my 98SE systems, I use the System File Checker constantly.

My recollection of SFC is that it works a little differently in Win98
than in 2000 or XP, at least it's more informative and tells you what
it's doing. I did run it on the Win2000 computer (that's how I found
the missing AUTOEXEC.NT file) and it just runs. It doesn't tell you
what it found out of whack, if anything.

In the case of the TMP environment variable, the problem wasn't a
missing system file. I'm guessing that something changed in the
registry, and I don't think SFC cares about that. The manager window
that lets you set the path for the TMP directory probalby writes
whatever you enter into the registry, but I suspect that it doesn't
read (for display) what's actually in the registry, but just remembers
what was last entered via that route. (all speculative on my part - I
don't have the schematic g) I didn't dig in with the registry editor
since my intuitive fix worked.

I had some issues with the Microsoft security patches from March...
Security Update for Windows 98 (KB888113) and Security Update
for Windows 98 (KB891711) seemed to cause scripting errors when
surfing the web. Turns out that something happened to both my IE
preferences and to the manner in which Zone Alarm looked at web
sites.

What does SFC do when you've installed a patch or update to the
operating system? It asks you to put in the original installation CD,
so it's possible that it would replace a missing updated file with the
old version. Is that what happens?

Anyway, Zone Alarm expired at the end of March, and the stupid
web site refused to accept the passwords I had set up for upgrading
over the web, so I just went out and bought the newest version.

This new version has become bloated and invasive, something that I
used to praise ZA of *not* being.

I'm just using the free version. I figured it was working but just for
kicks I went to the Gibson Research web site (grc.com) and played with
their Shields Up test. It trys to probe all the ports (or the first
1000 or so) and tells you if they're open, closed, or stealth (the
probe gets no response from your machine). With Zone Alarm turned on,
it showed stealth for all of my ports. So I shut down Zone Alarm, ran
the port probe test again, and it still showed them all as stealt. So
maybe my router is doing that, or my ISP is. I figure that if there's
really a problem, Gibson would want to show it in his test since he's
trying to sell stuff that seals up computers.

As the days have passed, problems have again begun to rear their heads
with me changing nothing. Once again, ZA is not allowing simple .gifs
and a great deal of scripting to load from web pages.

Honestly, I'd feel more comfortable if it blocked something now and
then. I do get pop-ups when some program or Windows service that I
have't put on the "good guy" list tried to access the Internet. Real
Player is one example. If I want to use it to play a non-downloadable
file, I'll anser the pop-up with "allow" but won't tell it to always
allow that program to access the internet. I want to know when it's
"phoning home" and then don't let it. But I've been disappointed. It
hasn't tried to access the Internet other than when I sent it there.

Call me paranoid or delusional, but these patches seem to me to be
compromising security rather than fixing it. Zone Alarm no longer
reports to me when my IP address changes, and a few other little
anomalies that don't make any sense.

I don't recall that I ever saw that (I'm sure it changed now and then
when I was on AOL dial-up) but then I've only been using the program
for less than two years. Maybe I never got an old enough veresion.

Lo and behold, today there are two more security patches for Win98...

Who says Microsoft doesn't support old versions. G


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I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message news:znr1118712585k@trad...

In article nNore.12570$gL4.12061@trnddc07 writes:

related to a temporary directory that can't be found. But the
lack of error messages makes troubleshooting difficult.

Is this your Win98SE box ??

Nope, on the Win2000 day-to-day computer. I fixed the temporary
directory path problem today by changing the environment setting to
something else, then changing it back to what it should be.


By the way... the reason that this was on my mind, was that a friend
just brough me his old Win98 PC which crashed on his after these
latest updates from Microsoft, and he was using the freeware version
of ZoneAlarm.... no frills at all. So, I get to bring back to life another
PC that I'm very familiar with, over the next couple of days. I'll let
you know if I find anything obvious.

DM

"You do the best you can, and when you decide that you've wasted enough
time on it, you cut your losses and try something else. There's always
a market for your M-Box on eBay. "

You know, I thought I had figured it out tonight, and then I realize
that no, nothing is going to make this thing work. You are right. It
will be on Ebay by the end of the week. Good riddens. I don't want to
think about the amount of time I've wasted on this piece of garbaggio.

wrote in message...

You know, I thought I had figured it out tonight, and then I realize
that no, nothing is going to make this thing work.

For the life of me, I can't imagine why you've had this box for over
a year with no results and not returned it to your dealer or had the
product's customer support solve your problem long ago.

I don't want to think about the amount of time I've wasted on this
piece of garbaggio.

You should actually be thinking long and hard about why you are
just now posting about this and that you waited so long to do
anything that might actually get you some results.


--
David Morgan (MAMS)
http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com

David,

Because I was pretty sure that I would get it to work, and then moved 4
times in the interim. It was the low end of my priority scale,
although I certainly wished I had figured it out earlier. It's not my
usual, but I really did want success with this thing and still can't
figure out how and why it won't work.

Anyway, I'm just glad I figured it out.

Paul

wrote in message oups.com...
David,

Because I was pretty sure that I would get it to work, and then moved 4
times in the interim. It was the low end of my priority scale,
although I certainly wished I had figured it out earlier. It's not my
usual, but I really did want success with this thing and still can't
figure out how and why it won't work.

Anyway, I'm just glad I figured it out.

Paul


Sorry to be such a pain, Paul... I guess you can tell that I'm the kind of
guy that would have pitched a helluva' bitch or got my money refunded
right away. g

Moving a lot is a bitch, I've been there... so is bum gear. I told the story
here, back in spring of 2004, about the line of people at the local guitar
center shortly after christmas, who were all returning M-Boxes. It was
a real fiasco back then. I would have hoped that more of the bugs could
have been worked out by now.

DM

In article 56qre.2589$yw4.2525@trnddc09 writes:

For the life of me, I can't imagine why you've had this box for over
a year with no results and not returned it to your dealer or had the
product's customer support solve your problem long ago.

It seems that this syndrome is all too common. I wonder about that,
too. I've been going back and forth with a guy on the Mackie forum
about not being able to get his HDR or d8b working with his brand new
Apogee Big Ben master word clock generator. He's had the d8b for
several years and it turns out that he's never been able to sync its
word clock input to anything. NOW he's talking to Mackie Tech Support
and they say he has a bad card.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo