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Chuck Kopsho
 
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To All:
Please give me your opinions on using this mic for home recording.
Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Chuck Kopsho
Oceanside, California

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Chuck Kopsho wrote:

Please give me your opinions on using this mic for home recording.


It's a classic - one of the 2 or 3 most popular mics in the world. The
other two are the Shure SM57 and SM58. Ironically the Shures are
cardiods, while the EV 635 is an omni.

IMO, none of them are the best price/performers or best sounding at
the price points. But they are all acceptable in their ways.


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I never use mine becuase I've never founf it to be the best sounding
mic for whatever instrument I've tried it on.

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Chuck Kopsho wrote:
Please give me your opinions on using this mic for home recording.
Thanks in advance.


It is probably the most useful microphone ever made. It's sure not
neutral and it's sure not accurate, but it's handy for a huge variety
of things. Everybody should own one, and they are dirt cheap. I just
passed up a stack of them at a hamfest for $25 each.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


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Useful in spots, but not a panacea. A lot of folks like them for miking
guitar amps. They're also useful for spots where you're afraid the
microphone is at risk; they're tough as nails, and if they do get destroyed
or stolen, they're cheap.

They're an omni mike, with a strong bass rolloff and not much above 10kHz,
so basically they're about midrange and some treble but little sparkle.

Peace,
Paul


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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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It is probably the most useful microphone ever made. It's sure not
neutral and it's sure not accurate, but it's handy for a huge variety
of things.


What are some of these "huge variety of things"? I've got several of them
'cause they were so darn cheap they were practically free, but I certainly
don't find a huge variety of things to use them for.

Hal Laurent
Baltimore


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If you are not going to use a sound proof booth, it's great because it
doesn't capture any background noise or ambience.


Are we talking about the same mike here? The 635A is an omni... it sure
captures a lot of ambience...
--scott
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Hal Laurent wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

It is probably the most useful microphone ever made. It's sure not
neutral and it's sure not accurate, but it's handy for a huge variety
of things.


What are some of these "huge variety of things"? I've got several of them
'cause they were so darn cheap they were practically free, but I certainly
don't find a huge variety of things to use them for.


They basically don't have any real top end, and they don't have any bottom
end, and that don't have any proximity effect. They are very handy when
you want something to be kind of midrange-heavy and centered in a mix,
or when you need a deep bass cut.

They are lots of fun on guitar amps. They are surprisingly useful on
electric bass, actually, just because they don't have any bottom end.
You might need to mix a little DI in to fill the bottom out, but they
can work well.

Even handy now and then on things like banjos. They can be useful for
vocalists who can't stay on-mike because of the omni pattern. Even useful
when you want to tame harsh things like fiddles and you don't have a ribbon.
--scott

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On 4/17/05 7:19 PM, in article ,


If you are not going to use a sound proof booth, it's great because it
doesn't capture any background noise or ambience.


What mic ARE you talking about?



If you are going to use a sound proof booth or area, there are better mics
out there for the money.

Dean

"Chuck Kopsho" wrote in message
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To All:
Please give me your opinions on using this mic for home recording.
Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Chuck Kopsho
Oceanside, California



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Chuck Kopsho wrote:
To All:
Please give me your opinions on using this mic for home recording.
Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Chuck Kopsho
Oceanside, California


I REALLY like it on cleanish guitar-amps. I shun all logic and point it
dead-center at the cone. Great detail without harshness.

I also REALLY like it on backing vocals. I often cut lead vocals with
it for demos, just because it sounds different and interesting (at
least on my often-reedy tenor).

I did a drum session with it a few weeks ago. I used it on the snare
head, and caught an interesting tone there too. I would reapeat this,
based on the positive results so far.

-dave
www.themoodrings.com

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pSSJVCmag wrote:
blockquote TYPE=CITEIt's dandy.
pOn 4/17/05 3:15 PM, in article
, "Chuck Kopsho"
wrote:
p To All:
br Please give me your opinions on using this mic for home recording.
br Thanks in advance.
br
br       Cheers,
br       Chuck Kopsho
br       Oceanside, California
br/blockquote
Back a number of years ago I was lucky to have a saturday class.
brIt started out with an old guy who had a 635A hanging around his neck.
brHe started out by saying " Hello my name is Lou Burroughs, Vice President
brof Electro-Voice, I would like to show you something."
brHe turned off his amp. removed the mic. from around his neck, pulled
out a 2X4 with a 10 penny
brnail that was already started. He then drove the nail into the 2X4
using the 635A. Put it back around
brhis neck, turned the amp. back on and said "Not a bad hammer hugh?"
pIn answer to your question it's a OK mic. In a pinch can double as a
hammer. It was designed around
brthe late 1960's technology. Best advice I have is to go somewhere that
has a microphone bar set up.
brThat way you can hear the differences, proximity, frequency response
etc.
pNot to give them a plug.. Try Hollywood sound systems on Wilcox in Hollywood.
323 466 2416. They invented
brthe mic. bar.
brI remember back in the 70's a blind singer came in..He wanted to buy
a mic. He tried all the mic's we had set up
bron the bar and fell in love with the Neumann U-87. He almost had heart
failure when we told him the price. So he
brdecided to continue his way down the bar. When he got to the SM7 (Shure)
and we played with the roll off/boost
brswitches and he and I were very surprised at how close the U-87 and
SM7 sounded.
p--
brHope this helps
pBill Mayhew
brMayhew & Company, Rental, Sales, Service
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Used them for bongos in a 10 piece latin band live and they worked just
fine.

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"Hal Laurent" wrote in message
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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It is probably the most useful microphone ever made. It's sure not
neutral and it's sure not accurate, but it's handy for a huge variety
of things.


What are some of these "huge variety of things"? I've got several of them
'cause they were so darn cheap they were practically free, but I certainly
don't find a huge variety of things to use them for.

Hal Laurent
Baltimore




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Just not well! g

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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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If you are not going to use a sound proof booth, it's great because it
doesn't capture any background noise or ambience.


Are we talking about the same mike here? The 635A is an omni... it sure
captures a lot of ambience...
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Last edited by kevin : June 15th 08 at 09:29 AM


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Chuck Kopsho wrote:
To All:
Please give me your opinions on using this mic for home recording.
Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Chuck Kopsho
Oceanside, California


Yummy. Good omni, classic stuff. Well, so all you have to do is make sure you have no leakage and
you'll be fine.

--fletch
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bill wrote:

snip....

When he got to the SM7 (Shure)
and we played with the roll off/boost
switches and he and I were very surprised at how close the U-87 and SM7
sounded.

--
Hope this helps

Bill Mayhew
Mayhew & Company, Rental, Sales, Service
http://www.mayhewco.com



On a recent project, a singer songwriter put down some
reference vocals live with the band using an SM7B. We
then overdubbed some new vocals with a U67. Later on we
comped together a master take using bits from each and
it's very hard to hear the difference between the two.

The Shure SM7B is a very fine microphone.

--
--
John Noll
Retromedia Sound Studios
Red Bank, NJ



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Chuck Kopsho wrote:
To All:
Please give me your opinions on using this mic for home recording.
Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Chuck Kopsho
Oceanside, California


A dynamic omni mic is the basic utility tool
for broadcast 'man on the street' interview.
I have 2 PL5's (635A w/ non-reflective finish)
and 2 PL9's (short handle RE55)
A PL5 gets used occasionally as a room
mic, guitar amp mic, talkback ...
Anything the 635A can do the PL9/RE55
will do better being smoother and flatter
with extended frequency extremes.
Working with positioning an omni is different
and can be more critical in a lively room
but more forgiving in front of a loud amp.
Use it up close to anything.
I think a mic like the 635A will take EQ better
due to the response's broad wide upper mid
boost rather than sharp peaks.

rd

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RD Jones wrote:
A dynamic omni mic is the basic utility tool
for broadcast 'man on the street' interview.
I have 2 PL5's (635A w/ non-reflective finish)
and 2 PL9's (short handle RE55)
A PL5 gets used occasionally as a room
mic, guitar amp mic, talkback ...
Anything the 635A can do the PL9/RE55
will do better being smoother and flatter
with extended frequency extremes.


For the most part this is true, but sometimes the nice thing about
the 635A is the total lack of low end. That can actually be a useful
tool sometimes.

Also, of course, you can't get the RE-55 any more. It's been discontinued.
It was a wonderful mike, though. A lot more expensive than the 635A, but
worth it too. I wish I had bought a bunch of them before they were taken
out of the line, because they don't show up used much.

I think a mic like the 635A will take EQ better
due to the response's broad wide upper mid
boost rather than sharp peaks.


Yes, that's really the wonderful thing about it. The midrange is very
smooth for such a cheap mike.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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"Everybody should own one, and they are dirt cheap. I just
passed up a stack of them at a hamfest for $25 each. "

Just don't have EV repair one these days...
91 bucks plus shipping.....
Ouch...

"I never use mine becuase I've never founf it to be the best sounding
mic for whatever instrument I've tried it on. "

It, along with the RE55, is my fav for Django style acoustic guitar...

"Back a number of years ago I was lucky to have a saturday class.
It started out with an old guy who had a 635A hanging around his neck.
He started out by saying " Hello my name is Lou Burroughs, Vice
President
of Electro-Voice, I would like to show you something."
He turned off his amp. removed the mic. from around his neck, pulled
out a 2X4 with a 10 penny
nail that was already started. He then drove the nail into the 2X4
using the 635A. Put it back around
his neck, turned the amp. back on and said "Not a bad hammer hugh?""

Wasn't that a 664?
The 635a is not all that durable....

"Also, of course, you can't get the RE-55 any more."

You also can't get one repaired by EV either, which is a true
bummer....
I have an RE55 that crackles. Anyone know anyone who might be able to
repair this mic?



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Chuck Kopsho wrote:

Please give me your opinions on using this mic for home recording.


I like the sound I get in my small treated room using a pair with a baffle
disk on my Gibson B-25 Deluxe acoustic guitar (small body).


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"Tim Sprout" wrote in message
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Chuck Kopsho wrote:

Please give me your opinions on using this mic for home recording.


Its an omni, but not a particularly good sounding one. However, if you like
what it does, keep doing it.

Julian


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