Hello,

if i have 2 'identical' soundfragments, 1 ripped from CD and 1 recorded from
vinyl, where the vinyl recording has more low and less high frequencies, how
can i let Cool Edit Pro figure out what to do with the vinyl recording to
sound the same as the one ripped from CD?

Is there a plugin or something for this, so it can become an automatic
process?

Looking forward to your reply!

Best regards, Jurgen

Jurgen smack[shift+2]wanadoo[punt]nl wrote:

if i have 2 'identical' soundfragments, 1 ripped from CD and 1 recorded from
vinyl, where the vinyl recording has more low and less high frequencies, how
can i let Cool Edit Pro figure out what to do with the vinyl recording to
sound the same as the one ripped from CD?

What's wrong with using your ears? Just flip from one to the other as you
make changes.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Well, it will be more accurate and faster (only the first time of course)?

"Scott Dorsey" schreef in bericht
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Jurgen smack[shift+2]wanadoo[punt]nl wrote:

if i have 2 'identical' soundfragments, 1 ripped from CD and 1 recorded
from
vinyl, where the vinyl recording has more low and less high frequencies,
how
can i let Cool Edit Pro figure out what to do with the vinyl recording to
sound the same as the one ripped from CD?

What's wrong with using your ears? Just flip from one to the other as you
make changes.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Jurgen smack[shift+2]wanadoo[punt]nl wrote:
Well, it will be more accurate and faster (only the first time of course)?

No, the machine is apt to be _less_ accurate, because it's going to have
all sorts of falsing. For example, if you're trying to match the sound of
an original recording dubbed from vinyl, and you are doing it by taking a
spectrum plot and EQing until the plots look the same, you have no way of
telling the difference between signal and noise. If there's excessive rumble
on the vinyl transfer, the end result is you'll wind up pushing the low end
up way too much to make the plots look the same.

There is no shortcut to doing it by ear.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Jurgen wrote:
Hello,

if i have 2 'identical' soundfragments, 1 ripped from CD and 1
recorded from vinyl, where the vinyl recording has more low and less
high frequencies, how can i let Cool Edit Pro figure out what to do
with the vinyl recording to sound the same as the one ripped from
CD?

I think that you mean to ask how you might use the various equalizers
in CEP/Audition in order to make a song ripped from a CD sound more
like the same song transcribed from a LP.

Is there a plugin or something for this, so it can become an
automatic process?

While one might dream about having such a thing, back in the real
world...

....you have to use your ears and other tools at your disposal.

In the "other tools" department, is the CEP/Audition Frequency
Analysis tool.

One approach is to do a Frequency Analysis of the same portions of
each recording, and compare the results. If you apply equalization
based on that comparison using say the FFT Filter, you might get close
to what you are looking for.

On Sunday 17 April 2005 12:29 pm, "Jurgen" smack[shift+2]wanadoo[punt]nl
thusly spake:

Hello,

if i have 2 'identical' soundfragments, 1 ripped from CD and 1 recorded
from vinyl, where the vinyl recording has more low and less high
frequencies, how can i let Cool Edit Pro figure out what to do with the
vinyl recording to sound the same as the one ripped from CD?

Is there a plugin or something for this, so it can become an automatic
process?

Looking forward to your reply!

Best regards, Jurgen

Not sure if there is a plugin in Cool Edit for this, but the best bet would
be to create an Impulse Response sample from the setup you have with
recording vinyl, and then apply that to the ripped CD track with a
convolver.

-Reuben

Jurgen wrote:
Hello,

if i have 2 'identical' soundfragments, 1 ripped from CD and 1 recorded from
vinyl, where the vinyl recording has more low and less high frequencies, how
can i let Cool Edit Pro figure out what to do with the vinyl recording to
sound the same as the one ripped from CD?

Is there a plugin or something for this, so it can become an automatic
process?

Yes but it's not in Audition, unfortunately. It's a DX
plugin that is/was called FreeFilter from Steinberg. You
could create a third octave equalizer setting that was the
difference between two measured RTS runs. Can't speak to
how well it might work in practice.


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein

Bob Cain wrote:
You could create a third
octave equalizer setting that was the difference between two measured
RTS runs.

Aargh. I meant RTA runs.


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein

"Jurgen" smack[shift+2]wanadoo[punt]nl wrote:

Hello,

if i have 2 'identical' soundfragments, 1 ripped from CD and 1 recorded from
vinyl, where the vinyl recording has more low and less high frequencies, how
can i let Cool Edit Pro figure out what to do with the vinyl recording to
sound the same as the one ripped from CD?

You may download the demo of Har-Bal and let it look at the wave files.
http://www.har-bal.com/

HTH
Norbert