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Locsmándi Bence
 
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Hi!

I'm looking for an amp that would be a good couple for my pair of Yamaha
NS10s. Now these monitors are driven by a second-hand hifi Technics
amplifier. I also have a pair of Dynaudio BM6A as my main monitors, but I
like to check my work on the Yamahas.
Could you suggest an amp that would be good for this situation?
Thanks a lot for helping

bence


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David Morgan \(MAMS\)
 
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How the devil did a question sent to r.a.p. have a reply that was crossedposted to

alt.home.repair, comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.os.windows-xp, comp.os.linux.misc


? ? ? ? ? ? ?


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On 4/5/05 6:37 PM, in article vqE4e.6315$Tm5.3778@trnddc07, "David Morgan
(MAMS)" wrote:


How the devil did a question sent to r.a.p. have a reply that was
crossedposted to

alt.home.repair, comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.os.windows-xp,
comp.os.linux.misc


? ? ? ? ? ? ?


We're a target of some losers that thing adding bunches of NG addys to spout
is FUN... It's been going on for a few weeks. Once the ADD them, most people
blithely RESPOND not paying attention that the post is going to 4 groups
that have LITTLE to do with one another. Usually an appearance of a string
of posts from folks that aren;t usual denizens is a clue.

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Trevor de Clercq
 
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I seem to remember at Right Track we used to drive the NS10s with
Bryston amps. I can't remember the model number. My memory could be
wrong. We also had some Crown Micro-Techs lying around.

Cheers,
Trevor de Clercq

Locsmándi Bence wrote:
Hi!

I'm looking for an amp that would be a good couple for my pair of Yamaha
NS10s. Now these monitors are driven by a second-hand hifi Technics
amplifier. I also have a pair of Dynaudio BM6A as my main monitors, but I
like to check my work on the Yamahas.
Could you suggest an amp that would be good for this situation?
Thanks a lot for helping

bence


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Ku Karlovsky
 
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:04:38 -0400, " uriah wrote
in message :

Any of the old hafler 200 series check ebay the 280 will drive
anything but is rarer and more $$$
S


If you didn't waste all your $$$, you might be able to afford some
punctuation marks.
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david
 
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In article , Anthropy
wrote:

Also NS10's have had
their day. You only find them in low brow studios where the owners
can't afford to upgrade.




Ahh, a post from bogus.com

btw the best amp I've heard with ns-10's is a Bryston 4b, which is a
pretty popular partner for them in all them low brow studios.




David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


www.CelebrationSound.com
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Geoff Wood
 
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"david" wrote in message
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In article , Anthropy
wrote:

Also NS10's have had
their day. You only find them in low brow studios where the owners
can't afford to upgrade.




Ahh, a post from bogus.com

btw the best amp I've heard with ns-10's is a Bryston 4b, which is a
pretty popular partner for them in all them low brow studios.


Given that the object of NS-10's is to approximate the average sound of an
average crappy home stereo, shouldn't one be using an average crappy home
stereo amp ?

geoff


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david
 
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In article , Geoff Wood
wrote:

btw the best amp I've heard with ns-10's is a Bryston 4b, which is a
pretty popular partner for them in all them low brow studios.


Given that the object of NS-10's is to approximate the average sound of an
average crappy home stereo, shouldn't one be using an average crappy home
stereo amp ?

geoff



The purpose of ns-10's for guys like me that have lived with them for
years is to get mixes that travel well.

The amp is important. Years back I changed from a Crown Microtech 1000
to a 4b and the difference was a wonderful one. Makes these monitors
very easy to live with.

Once you've figured out the ns-10's they work quite well. I use them in
cahoots with Urei 813C's in order to hear the full sonic spectrum. No
small monitor can do the whole job.





David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


www.CelebrationSound.com


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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:29:24 -0400, david wrote:

In article , Geoff Wood
wrote:

btw the best amp I've heard with ns-10's is a Bryston 4b, which is a
pretty popular partner for them in all them low brow studios.


Given that the object of NS-10's is to approximate the average sound of an
average crappy home stereo, shouldn't one be using an average crappy home
stereo amp ?

geoff



The purpose of ns-10's for guys like me that have lived with them for
years is to get mixes that travel well.

The amp is important. Years back I changed from a Crown Microtech 1000
to a 4b and the difference was a wonderful one. Makes these monitors
very easy to live with.

Once you've figured out the ns-10's they work quite well. I use them in
cahoots with Urei 813C's in order to hear the full sonic spectrum. No
small monitor can do the whole job.





David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


www.CelebrationSound.com



I'd bet a 100 bucks that if you did a double blind between those 2 amps
with NS-10's you wouldn't hear ANY difference.
What you are hearing is the label on the front panel. KK
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Roger W. Norman
 
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Well, no, unless you want to blow tweeters. Properly powered NS-10s work
just fine if you like a midrange prominent speaker with somewhat of a spitty
high. However, if you can make a mix work on NS-10s, it will probably work
anywhere on any system. You've heard those mixes for years now and probably
didn't realize it. Plenty of top line mixers still use them for checks, but
not for the initial mixing. Too fatiguing these days to use 100% of the
time.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
"Geoff Wood" wrote in message
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"david" wrote in message
...
In article , Anthropy
wrote:

Also NS10's have had
their day. You only find them in low brow studios where the owners
can't afford to upgrade.




Ahh, a post from bogus.com

btw the best amp I've heard with ns-10's is a Bryston 4b, which is a
pretty popular partner for them in all them low brow studios.


Given that the object of NS-10's is to approximate the average sound of an
average crappy home stereo, shouldn't one be using an average crappy home
stereo amp ?

geoff




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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:36:53 +1200, Geoff Wood
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Given that the object of NS-10's is to approximate the average sound of
an
average crappy home stereo, shouldn't one be using an average crappy home
stereo amp ?


Most cheap hifi amps seem to make NS10's even harsher for some reason.
They're bearable with a Quad 405 and probably better with an even better
amp.

Cheers.

James.
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david
 
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In article , kaptain kaput
wrote:

The amp is important. Years back I changed from a Crown Microtech 1000
to a 4b and the difference was a wonderful one. Makes these monitors
very easy to live with.

Once you've figured out the ns-10's they work quite well. I use them in
cahoots with Urei 813C's in order to hear the full sonic spectrum. No
small monitor can do the whole job.





David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


www.CelebrationSound.com



I'd bet a 100 bucks that if you did a double blind between those 2 amps
with NS-10's you wouldn't hear ANY difference.
What you are hearing is the label on the front panel. KK





C'mon by with your 100 bucks.

The top end with the Microtech is nastier. The 4b's got more balls too.
With ns-10's you sometimes wanna crank em. You don't have to worry
about anything with the 4b. Turn it up.





David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


www.CelebrationSound.com
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In article , Roger W. Norman
wrote:

Plenty of top line mixers still use them for checks, but
not for the initial mixing. Too fatiguing these days to use 100% of the
time.




I know plenty of folks that still mix with them. Just last month we had
an LA "kid" - early 30's - doing some work here for a major label, and
he loves ns-10's. (It ain't all just us old farts.) And you may be
surprised to learn that with a 4b they are not fatiguing at all.

When you mix you don't wanna spend 100% of the time listening to one
anything. That's why there are small monitors and big ones in real
control rooms. You have to find a mix that works on both. You'll never
know for sure if it does until you listen to both.

When people in our recording classes ask well which is right, the large
or the small monitors?? I tell them their answer is halfway between
them both.

But the mix still has to work on both of them.





David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


www.CelebrationSound.com


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Roger W. Norman
 
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I assume you mean a Bryston 4b? I hadn't noticed anything really nice about
that combo, but I will say that a properly powered NS10 system will NOT blow
tweeters when given clean power, unless one just goes stupid for a minute
(well, seconds). The other concept of using fuses inline just simply
doesn't seem like a solution to me. More like a prophylactic prevention
whilst still supplying a crappy sound out of the speakers. The Bryston
certainly didn't do that! g

And I'd not mind NS10s in a reasonably large control room where they
physically are too small in output to acoustically couple with anything. In
a small control room, because of the obvious room problems, NS10s seem to
accentuate those problems and are, regardless of amp, fatiguing. The stupid
thing on Yammie's part is they had a darned good replacement in the MSR10s,
but they got dropped way to fast to move into the mainstream as a decent
sounding upgrade. Even though I have some nice JBLs for mixing, I kinda
wish I'd gone ahead and bought the MSR10s when I had the chance. Not as
spitty, handle power pretty well, less fatiguing even in smaller control
rooms, and had better bottom end coverage whilst still providing that mids
heavy sound that helped get so many good mixes done.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
"david" wrote in message
...
In article , Roger W. Norman
wrote:

Plenty of top line mixers still use them for checks, but
not for the initial mixing. Too fatiguing these days to use 100% of the
time.




I know plenty of folks that still mix with them. Just last month we had
an LA "kid" - early 30's - doing some work here for a major label, and
he loves ns-10's. (It ain't all just us old farts.) And you may be
surprised to learn that with a 4b they are not fatiguing at all.

When you mix you don't wanna spend 100% of the time listening to one
anything. That's why there are small monitors and big ones in real
control rooms. You have to find a mix that works on both. You'll never
know for sure if it does until you listen to both.

When people in our recording classes ask well which is right, the large
or the small monitors?? I tell them their answer is halfway between
them both.

But the mix still has to work on both of them.





David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


www.CelebrationSound.com



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