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Bose Personalized Amplification System R_O_C_K_S!!!!
I admit I was a little skeptical after reading a lot of bad press
concerning the Bose products, but this one is a gem amongst the rocks. My partner and I purchased an old bar and grill that we have been restoring for about a year now. Fortunately it came with a caberet license so we were able to book local acts, mostly r+r bands to draw in the locals. Most of these groups had their own PA's and unfortunately most of them were crap gear, loud, lot's of feedback and usually people running them that didn't know what they were doing. It didn't take long, with a couple of visits from the local sheriff because neighbors were complaining the sound was too loud, for us to investigate alternatives. The friendly folks at Sam Ash came to the rescue and before we knew it we were the happy owners of some really new and innovative gear. We bought into the "Bose Double Bass Package" http://www.bose.com/controller?event...ucts/index.jsp All I can say is the sound is fantastic and we can use the remote to crank down the talent if they get too loud. This system ROCKS THE HOUSE and this is a pretty decent sized venue. We had a little flack from some of the acts but once they heard the Bose they knew it was something special and that they would sound great. I can't say enough about this great system and the wonderful staff of consultants at Sam Ash inc. Thank you for your time. Saul Gutterman |
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I admit I was a little skeptical after reading a lot of bad press concerning the Bose products, but this one is a gem amongst the rocks. My partner and I purchased an old bar and grill that we have been restoring for about a year now. OK where is the venue, what is the name of it. The friendly folks at Sam Ash came to the rescue and before we knew it we were the happy owners of some really new and innovative gear. We bought into the "Bose Double Bass Package" All I can say is the sound is fantastic and we can use the remote to crank down the talent if they get too loud.system ROCKS THE HOUSE and this is a pretty decent sized venue. We had a little flack from some of the acts but once they heard the Bose they knew it was something special and that they would sound great. I can't say enough about this great system and the wonderful staff of consultants at Sam Ash inc. Thank you for your time. If we get a venue name, fine. I apologize (after I look it up to confirm their is such a venue. ) If not starting to feel newsgroups are being targeted by what is known to pr firms as 'guerilla marketing' by the bose bozos |
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reese thomas wrote: I admit I was a little skeptical after reading a lot of bad press concerning the Bose products, but this one is a gem amongst the rocks. My partner and I purchased an old bar and grill that we have been restoring for about a year now. OK where is the venue, what is the name of it. The friendly folks at Sam Ash came to the rescue and before we knew it we were the happy owners of some really new and innovative gear. We bought into the "Bose Double Bass Package" All I can say is the sound is fantastic and we can use the remote to crank down the talent if they get too loud.system ROCKS THE HOUSE and this is a pretty decent sized venue. We had a little flack from some of the acts but once they heard the Bose they knew it was something special and that they would sound great. I can't say enough about this great system and the wonderful staff of consultants at Sam Ash inc. Thank you for your time. If we get a venue name, fine. I apologize (after I look it up to confirm their is such a venue. ) If not starting to feel newsgroups are being targeted by what is known to pr firms as 'guerilla marketing' by the bose bozos Yeah Saul, where is the venue? The experience I've had with the Bose PAS was less then stellar. It was a light jazz trio. Not loud. The subs were breaking up with the upright bass at very moderate levels. Over priced junk in my opinion. Vocals were ok, and so was the guitar. But at the ridiculous cost, you could get much better setup. A small Mackie rig with a single 15" sub, a pair of SRM450's and a small CFX mixer would have been much more adequate for similar money, could cover the entire band, and would be a heck of a lot more versatile. If you were to add the cost of several PAS units together for an entire band, you could get a much more serious PA that would blow the doors off of the PAS under any circumstances. Marketing machine hype. Rupert |
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Anna Banger wrote:
I've been using the Bose personal amp. system for about 9 months now with my bagpipe band and we have been very impressed with the results. You need to amplify bagpipes????? Maybe you skipped European history lessons at school (I assume you attended Trollsville High), but the Scottish army used to march into battle to the sound of Pipes and Drums. Pipes are quite loud enough on their own - ever heard a Pipe Band march by? No amplification needed. Bagpipes require god mics and you can't beat the Samson Q-Tom mics for bagpipe micing. Cross posting eejit! Chris W -- The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long, But the words of the wise are quiet and few. --- |
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Saul Gutterman wrote:
I admit I was a little skeptical after reading a lot of bad press concerning the Bose products, but this one is a gem amongst the rocks. Where's the venue? I might want to come here that amazing thing you're spamming about. -- ha |
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"Saul Gutterman" wrote in message roups.com...
I admit I was a little skeptical after reading a lot of bad press concerning the Bose products....yadda yadda...snip Nice troll Bose boy |
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reese thomas wrote:
Now wait a minute, I'm no Bose fan, but saying this gentleman is no sr pro because he uses 802s is way much Especially since Lou does very good work, often working with acoustic musicians, and often providing simultaneous SR and live recording, where the quality of the recording is important in addition to the quality of the SR. For over two decades he has made his living at this, and is therefore indisputably a _professional_. I'm also no Bose fan, but when I have needed to use 802's because that's what was there, I got them to work just fine. You want midrange? We have Bose! -- ha |
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I can't say enough about this great system and the wonderful staff of
consultants at Sam Ash inc. Thank you for your time. Wake up call he This group is not the Sam Ash customer relations department. |
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Gene Sweeny wrote:
and I use Bose! 802s, Nope... you're not. 802,s are not that bad. Definitely usable in a pinch. There are much worse PA speakers. Of course, much better as well. I've heard better sounds come from fingernails on chalkboards than from B*se products. That's just plain dumb. |
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--------------- snip ---------------
The friendly folks at Sam Ash came to the rescue and before we knew it we were the happy owners of some really new and innovative gear. We bought into the "Bose Double Bass Package" http://www.bose.com/controller?event...EVENT&product=. ---------------- end snipper -------------- I have a similar story. I started a new company and we needed a system to manage everything. I was going to hire a professional accounting company to manage the books but most of them suck. So the friendly folks at Radio Shack came to the rescue and recommended a computer. It was teh Tandy 5000. http://www.mfac.gov.tp/manual/tandy1989.jpg It was used and was traded in but it was a great deal for the year 2005. Heck the thing was only like 16 years old. Some clients were concerned but once they saw the word Tandy on it but once they heard the 20Mhz processor hummm, they knew we had something special. I can't thank the friendly staff at Radio Shack enough. ( I wonder if they get commissions like the Bose sales reps?) |
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"Saul Gutterman" wrote...
The friendly folks at Sam Ash came to the rescue and before we knew it we were the happy owners of some really new and innovative gear. What a crock of ****. Real people don't talk like this, "Saul". If you're going to be hawking "new and innovative" products for "the friendly folks at Sam Ash", you're going to have to work on your copy. Also, do you not think that anybody clicks on your name in Google to see how many other posts you have? When your one, single, solitary post in all of usenet history is gushing bull**** like this, people see through you pretty easily. Try harder next time, viral-marketing-boy. |
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Chris Whealy wrote:
You need to amplify bagpipes????? I know someone who plays Scottish smallpipes and the bane of her life (one of them, anyway) is clueless soundmen who see bagpipes and assume "ok, bagpipes, LOUD, stick an SM57 somewhere within a mile of them and they'll be fine". So much so that she now brings her own condenser mic to gigs and shows the sound man the best position for it. Like many wind instruments, that's pointing at the middle of the chanter, as most of the sound comes out of any open finger holes. All smallpipes (e.g. Northumbrian, Leicestershire) have a cylindrical bore and totally different acoustics from conical bore chanters, and a much smaller sound. -- Anahata -+- http://www.treewind.co.uk Home: 01638 720444 Mob: 07976 263827 |
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Saul Gutterman wrote:
I can't say enough about this great system and the wonderful staff of consultants at Sam Ash inc. Well, I have to say that you did a better job of posting this advertisement than the folks from B&H Photo did. At least you remembered to use an offsite computer on a Covad DSL line in Texas rather than using one of the computers in the store. But still, this is pretty transparent. At the very least you should have got yourself a short posting history in google before posting the ad right off with a new account. Sheesh. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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I have recorded bagpipes once in my life (as part of a variety show),
and in the process learned that I should probably learn more about micing bagpipes if I get the chance again. Not that the recording didn't turn out well (it did), but I was shocked at the difference in apparent level between the bagpipe tracks and every other track that day. I don't remember them sounding louder in person, but on tape I had to cut the level WAY back to balance with the other tracks. Clearly the bagpipe is a different animal, and someday I'd like to cull the wisdom of more experienced folks to learn how to get the best sound on a recording. Scott |
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Saul Gutterman wrote: I admit I was a little skeptical after reading a lot of bad press concerning the Bose products, but this one is a gem amongst the rocks. My partner and I purchased an old bar and grill that we have been restoring for about a year now. Fortunately it came with a caberet license so we were able to book local acts, mostly r+r bands to draw in the locals. Most of these groups had their own PA's and unfortunately most of them were crap gear, loud, lot's of feedback and usually people running them that didn't know what they were doing. It didn't take long, with a couple of visits from the local sheriff because neighbors were complaining the sound was too loud, for us to investigate alternatives. The friendly folks at Sam Ash came to the rescue and before we knew it we were the happy owners of some really new and innovative gear. We bought into the "Bose Double Bass Package" http://www.bose.com/controller?event...ucts/index.jsp All I can say is the sound is fantastic and we can use the remote to crank down the talent if they get too loud. This system ROCKS THE HOUSE and this is a pretty decent sized venue. We had a little flack from some of the acts but once they heard the Bose they knew it was something special and that they would sound great. I can't say enough about this great system and the wonderful staff of consultants at Sam Ash inc. Thank you for your time. Saul Gutterman ROCKS! YES OF COURSE! (pet rocks)  As Pinnochio found out: If you have to look at the size of your nose, The hype that came out must be from Bose..... It will solve all the worlds problems you know. And all its takes is all your cash flow...... Bob |
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"Joe Sensor" wrote in message ... Bmoas wrote: I am not sure where to begin They are trolling. Anna Banger seem to be our troller... The original post was to us and live-sound only, now it's suddenly going to all of the following... comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.home.repair, alt.locksmithing I'm sure Bose are fine for locksmithing.... :-\ |
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On 5 Apr 2005 07:03:28 -0700, "Anna Banger"
wrote in message .com: I've been using the Trolling again, Flatfish, and using your ancient sock puppet, Paddy McCrockett. You're scum. |
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Rupert wrote:
snip Well I'm no bose-o and I hate most Bose stuff (namely that mediocre little radio/CD player they try to pass off as "audiophile quality") Nonetheless I've used the Bose PAS on several occasions and I love it. Although the tone tends to accencuate the highs due to the stack of tiny little speakers, overall it sounds incredible and truly "fills" a room with sound. Instead of blasting sound in one direction per speaker like most PA's, the PAS has a great "virtual surround" quality to it. This means I don't even need to use monitors most of the time (depending on the venue and speaker placement) and half the audience doesn't complain about the vocals being two quiet while the other half complains they are too loud or just right. Perhaps the best thing about it is it's portability, especially for it's relative loudness. It seems like the space/dB ratio would be very high. The subs sound great IMHO for kick and bass guitar. The acoustic guitar tone is incredible and the electric guitar tone is decent but lacking (again, lotsa highs, lacking in warmth, super solid-state sounding)...this is helped somewhat by mic'ing a good tube amp. Vocals sound incredible as does keyboard. Other instruments I've heard and liked through the PAS: harmonica, electric violin, trumpet, nylon guitar (flamenco style) and various hand percussion instruments. Mostly these were mic'ed with 57's and built-in piezo pickups. The harmonica was through a cool old radio-lookin mic. Anyway, I think the PAS is great. Then again, for the large price tag, you could probably build a much better PA system out of mackie, crown/crest and JBL components. If you're tight on space and want something for quiet jams, especially with acoustic instruments, the PAS is great. If you want a traditional PA for some serious rocking on 16-channels w/ seperate monitor and submix paths, and you've got a van, get a real man's PA. BTW, you can reference TNT's Place in West Seattle and my good friend and local Bose rep who's sold several PAS's to Steve Miller, Dan "The Man" Sayan. Jonny Durango |
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Some clients were concerned but once they saw the word Tandy on it but once they heard the 20Mhz processor hummm, they knew we had something special. LMAO! Thanks for that! Jonny Durango |
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"Saul Gutterman" wrote in message oups.com... snip bose marketing crap Jeez, Bose are that desperate to shift their crap that they resort to making up usenet posts from fictitious satisfied customers. You seem to forget there are a lot of pro sound engineers on here who know full well you are talking out of your arse. Phildo |
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"Jonny Durango" wrote in message ... Nonetheless I've used the Bose PAS on several occasions and I love it. Please get yourself to your nearest audiologist ASAP and get your hearing checked. Phildo |
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David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
Anna Banger seem to be our troller... The original post was to us and live-sound only, now it's suddenly going to all of the following... comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.home.repair, alt.locksmithing I'm sure Bose are fine for locksmithing.... :-\ Hey, locksmiths like good music too, oops, I said good.. |
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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:14:39 -0300, "Phildo" wrote:
"Saul Gutterman" wrote in message roups.com... snip bose marketing crap Jeez, Bose are that desperate to shift their crap that they resort to making up usenet posts from fictitious satisfied customers. Somebody at Bose must have read the article, in the New York Times Magazine, I think, about how to create "buzz" about a product, and get others to do your marketing for you. That somebody does not have the brains to do any real work, like research, to find how how to target groups with the requisite number of naive folk who will buy into this bull$#!+. It is a real hoot, looking at the inevitable response from the NG, to think that some jerk really thinks he is helping to sell product by posting here. ] You seem to forget there are a lot of pro sound engineers on here who know full well you are talking out of your arse. Phildo Willie K. Yee, M.D. http://users.bestweb.net/~wkyee Developer of Problem Knowledge Couplers for Psychiatry http://www.pkc.com Webmaster and Guitarist for the Big Blue Big Band http://www.bigbluebigband.org |
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On 4/5/05 6:44 PM, in article GxE4e.6316$Tm5.6140@trnddc07, "David Morgan
(MAMS)" wrote: Anna Banger seem to be our troller... The original post was to us and live-sound only, now it's suddenly going to all of the following... comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.home.repair, alt.locksmithing I'm sure Bose are fine for locksmithing.... :-\ And Home Repair! |
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"Ku Karlovsky" wrote in message ... Trolling again, Flatfish, and using your ancient sock puppet, Paddy McCrockett. You're scum. Ah.. well... this explains everything. :-( |
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wrote in message ... I have recorded bagpipes once in my life (as part of a variety show), and in the process learned that I should probably learn more about micing bagpipes if I get the chance again. Not that the recording didn't turn out well (it did), but I was shocked at the difference in apparent level between the bagpipe tracks and every other track that day. I don't remember them sounding louder in person, but on tape I had to cut the level WAY back to balance with the other tracks. Clearly the bagpipe is a different animal, and someday I'd like to cull the wisdom of more experienced folks to learn how to get the best sound on a recording. Scottish war pipes -- record them in their natural habitat, which is outdoors, with a crossed pair of condensers. Start at 25' away and keep backing up until they sound right. Not, please God, in an auditorium with stone or concrete walls, which I had to do one time. It was louder than the one time I saw the Who (Tommy tour) and less euphonious. They never released the #$^%^& album, either, once they realized that during the finale two of the pipers were playing "The Athol Highlanders" while the rest were playing "Scotland the Brave". No one had noticed at the time. Irish, Northumbrian or other smallpipes: what Anahata said. I usually put a Neumann KM-84 on the main chanter, over the holes, and for Irish pipes another KM-84 or a Shure SM81 on the drones. Peace, Paul |
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Paul Stamler wrote:
"SSJVCmag" wrote in message On 4/5/05 10:21 AM, in article , "Joe Sensor" wrote: Bmoas wrote: I am not sure where to begin They are trolling. NO! Actually Bosch pneumatic systems can crush ROCKS! But the Bosch fuel injection in my VW squareback sucked GLUE. That happened to me once when I bought a tank of East Coast gasoline. Never again. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On 4/6/05 1:16 AM, in article
, "Paul Stamler" wrote: Actually Bosch pneumatic systems can crush ROCKS! But the Bosch fuel injection in my VW squareback sucked GLUE. HEY, MY 78 Bunny was a TREAT. Loved it for 160k till some bombette in a Triumph rear ended it on a cloverleaf and totalled the poor thing. I have a 84 wolfsburg waiting ressurection |
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On 4/6/05 1:30 AM, in article
, "Paul Stamler" wrote: Scottish war pipes -- record them in their natural habitat, which is outdoors, with a crossed pair of condensers. Start at 25' away and keep backing up until they sound right. Not, please God, in an auditorium with stone or concrete walls, which I had to do one time. It was louder than the one time I saw the Who (Tommy tour) and less euphonious. They never released the #$^%^& album, either, once they realized that during the finale two of the pipers were playing "The Athol Highlanders" while the rest were playing "Scotland the Brave". No one had noticed at the time. Irish, Northumbrian or other smallpipes: what Anahata said. I usually put a Neumann KM-84 on the main chanter, over the holes, and for Irish pipes another KM-84 or a Shure SM81 on the drones. Peace, Paul Did a piper-duo avec dhoumbec (which actually WORKEd really well musically!) in a small fairly tame hall. I wandered all around one set of pipes for 30min (bless the trusting patience of the players) with a mic and cans and realised that these things -HAVE- no single direction where radiated spectra has much of ANYTHING to do with the overall sound of the instrument. (and did anyone mention they're Just Damned LOUD?) we settled on the Crown SASS out about 15' with both players carefully Turned Just So where there was one POV on each of them that was pretty well-rounded with no missing notes, put an 84 (aimed AWAY!) on the drum about 10 feet away from them just to get a little sweetnin on that. Came out pretty darned listenable. Whew... They were really loud... |
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Sorry Saul, or whatever your name is. I use one of those tower things
every Tuesday and I disagree with anybody who says they rock. $2500 for a PA that has very muddy lows - where the bass notes are. . . . a set up so directional you need an extra monitor to hear yourself. . . while the highs and mids are pretty good, you still are only hearing your sound from one side . . . the big claim to fame is that they only drop 3 db every 30 feet or so - what about people who are trying to be in a place where they can hear the music but still carry on a conversation? No effects, weir remote, and other controls in the base of the tower! Huh? Kudos to Bose for trying something new - unfortunately this isn't it - especially for the price of three systems that will do about the same thing, only better. |
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"anahata" cross-posted, off-topic
in message ---snip the cross-posted, off-topic message--- "anahata", kindly stop cross-posting your off-topic crap on groups that don't give a **** about your subject ! |
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"John Halliburton"
cross-posted, off-topic in message ---snip the cross-posted, off-topic message--- kindly stop cross-posting off-topic to groups that don't give a **** about your subject. get a clue, would ya ? |
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That hasn't been my email address for over a year. I never cross post.
"'Key" wrote in message ... "John Halliburton" cross-posted, off-topic in message ---snip the cross-posted, off-topic message--- kindly stop cross-posting off-topic to groups that don't give a **** about your subject. get a clue, would ya ? |
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"anahata" cross-posted, off-topic
in message ---snip the OT crap--- kindly stop cross-posting your off-topic crap to groups that couldn't care less about your subject ! thanks |
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