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Stephanie Goldfarb
 
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After 14 years in the wedding business, a sideline locksmithing
business and a 1 year stint as a Linux programmer (not a dime to be
made in Linux, the users are too dammed cheap and steal everything) I
have decided to open my own recording studio.

I have about $40,000 to play with and I have started assembling gear.

Sam Ash seems to have everything I need and Paul Ash is assisting me
himself, but I just want to run things by this group.

I'm looking at Samson amplifiers,(400w/ch) Samson resolv monitors and a
presonus package which includes some great Peavy mikes, Hosa cables,
Berhinger mixing board (a real beauty) and a Samson Mike/Headphone
package as well.

Paul is telling me how Samson makes great gear, but I dunno. I never
heard of them and the name sounds a little too much like Sam Ash.

But I admit the gear sounds great.

I'm rounding out the setup with a Mac G5, Protools Digi02 and some
Alesis compressors and reverb units.

So whaddy think?
Is this da' bomb!!
Stephanie Goldfarb

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And you thought progamming Linux was a tough way to make a living...

On 5 Apr 2005 20:06:45 -0700, "Stephanie Goldfarb"
wrote:

After 14 years in the wedding business, a sideline locksmithing
business and a 1 year stint as a Linux programmer (not a dime to be
made in Linux, the users are too dammed cheap and steal everything) I
have decided to open my own recording studio.

I have about $40,000 to play with and I have started assembling gear.

Sam Ash seems to have everything I need and Paul Ash is assisting me
himself, but I just want to run things by this group.

I'm looking at Samson amplifiers,(400w/ch) Samson resolv monitors and a
presonus package which includes some great Peavy mikes, Hosa cables,
Berhinger mixing board (a real beauty) and a Samson Mike/Headphone
package as well.

Paul is telling me how Samson makes great gear, but I dunno. I never
heard of them and the name sounds a little too much like Sam Ash.

But I admit the gear sounds great.

I'm rounding out the setup with a Mac G5, Protools Digi02 and some
Alesis compressors and reverb units.

So whaddy think?
Is this da' bomb!!
Stephanie Goldfarb


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On 5 Apr 2005 20:06:45 -0700, "Stephanie Goldfarb"
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So whaddy think?


I think you're a troll
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Stephanie Goldfarb wrote:
After 14 years in the wedding business, a sideline locksmithing
business and a 1 year stint as a Linux programmer (not a dime to be
made in Linux, the users are too dammed cheap and steal everything) I
have decided to open my own recording studio.

I have about $40,000 to play with and I have started assembling gear.

Sam Ash seems to have everything I need and Paul Ash is assisting me
himself, but I just want to run things by this group.

I'm looking at Samson amplifiers,(400w/ch) Samson resolv monitors and a
presonus package which includes some great Peavy mikes, Hosa cables,
Berhinger mixing board (a real beauty) and a Samson Mike/Headphone
package as well.

Paul is telling me how Samson makes great gear, but I dunno. I never
heard of them and the name sounds a little too much like Sam Ash.

But I admit the gear sounds great.

I'm rounding out the setup with a Mac G5, Protools Digi02 and some
Alesis compressors and reverb units.

So whaddy think?
Is this da' bomb!!
Stephanie Goldfarb


I think you're getting some bad advice.

Find a local studio owner that has a nice setup and pay
him for a couple of hours of consultation on what to buy
based upon your projected needs.

and.... why on earth are you posting this message on a
locksmith NG?

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John Noll
Retromedia Sound Studios
Red Bank, NJ


http://www.retromedia.net

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jackfish
 
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In article . com,
"Stephanie Goldfarb" wrote:

I have about $40,000 to play with and I have started assembling gear.

Sam Ash seems to have everything I need and Paul Ash is assisting me
himself, but I just want to run things by this group.

I'm looking at Samson amplifiers,(400w/ch) Samson resolv monitors and a
presonus package which includes some great Peavy mikes, Hosa cables,
Berhinger mixing board (a real beauty) and a Samson Mike/Headphone
package as well.


With that sort of money, and that kind of advice, I would suggest you
hold off on making any purchase whatsoever until you've really done your
own research. Starting here is a good move. I'm sure Mr. Ash will be
happy to help you part with your cash and sell you whatever crap he can
unload on someone with little experience. You want a competitive studio
you will have to look at Pro Tools.


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Liam Slider
 
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:06:45 -0700, Stephanie Goldfarb wrote:

snip


Silly Flatfish, I don't think the aquarium will let you build a recording
studio in your tank. Besides, you'll electrocute yourself.

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RD Jones
 
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Giving the benefit of the doubt that this thread
is not a troll ...

Stephanie Goldfarb wrote:

After 14 years in the wedding business, a sideline locksmithing
business and a 1 year stint as a Linux programmer (not a dime to be
made in Linux, the users are too dammed cheap and steal everything) I
have decided to open my own recording studio.

I have about $40,000 to play with and I have started assembling gear.


Q. How do you make a small fortune in the music business ?
A. Start with a large one.

Sam Ash seems to have everything I need and Paul Ash is assisting me
himself, but I just want to run things by this group.


I've been doing this over 30 years, and spent and
continue to spend considerable sums, and I can
assure you that neither I nor anyone has "everything
I need".
If you plan on using this group as a resource,
go back over the archives and read, read, read.

I'm looking at Samson amplifiers,(400w/ch) Samson resolv monitors and

a
presonus package which includes some great Peavy mikes, Hosa cables,
Berhinger mixing board (a real beauty) and a Samson Mike/Headphone
package as well.


You are opening up a can of worms here ...
I have done some shopping at Sam's.
It sounds like the salesman has you pegged.

Paul is telling me how Samson makes great gear, but I dunno. I never
heard of them and the name sounds a little too much like Sam Ash.

But I admit the gear sounds great.


You need to start listening closer, and compare
against better gear.

I'm rounding out the setup with a Mac G5, Protools Digi02 and some
Alesis compressors and reverb units.


Search the archives for 3630 or "Alesis compressor"
and then think again. Alesis made a few decent
pieces over the years but their conpressor is NOT
one of them.

So whaddy think?
Is this da' bomb!!
Stephanie Goldfarb


I suggest you not buy all the gear from one vendor.
If you do buy from one vendor, it should be a pro-
audio shop not a guitar warehouse.

What kind of market are you in ?
What portion of the budget will go to building
and treating the room(s) ?
Any experience with electronic upkeep and repair ?
Any experience with engineering, producing, etc. ?
Or will you hire staff ?

rd

PS - don't give up the wedding business just yet.

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Just as I hit "post" I realized that I was crossposting my reply, and
that
it is more likely a troll.
My apologies to the list.

rd

darned google

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Stephanie Goldfarb wrote:
After 14 years in the wedding business, a sideline locksmithing
business and a 1 year stint as a Linux programmer (not a dime to be
made in Linux, the users are too dammed cheap and steal everything) I
have decided to open my own recording studio.

I have about $40,000 to play with and I have started assembling gear.

Sam Ash seems to have everything I need and Paul Ash is assisting me
himself, but I just want to run things by this group.

I'm looking at Samson amplifiers,(400w/ch) Samson resolv monitors and a
presonus package which includes some great Peavy mikes, Hosa cables,
Berhinger mixing board (a real beauty) and a Samson Mike/Headphone
package as well.

Paul is telling me how Samson makes great gear, but I dunno. I never
heard of them and the name sounds a little too much like Sam Ash.

But I admit the gear sounds great.

I'm rounding out the setup with a Mac G5, Protools Digi02 and some
Alesis compressors and reverb units.

So whaddy think?
Is this da' bomb!!
Stephanie Goldfarb


I think you are going to learn how to turn 40K into 5K overnight.

Jim

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it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your
mouth and remove all doubt....
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On 5 Apr 2005 20:06:45 -0700, "Stephanie Goldfarb"
wrote:

After 14 years in the wedding business, a sideline locksmithing
business and a 1 year stint as a Linux programmer (not a dime to be
made in Linux, the users are too dammed cheap and steal everything)

I
have decided to open my own recording studio.


I have about $40,000 to play with and I have started assembling

gear.

Nothing like starting small, eh? ;-)

Sam Ash seems to have everything I need and Paul Ash is assisting

me
himself, but I just want to run things by this group.


Ever hear of Dr. Ben Dover? Whether you know it or not...

I'm looking at Samson amplifiers,(400w/ch) Samson resolv monitors
and a presonus package which includes some great Peavy mikes, Hosa
cables, Berhinger mixing board (a real beauty) and a Samson
Mike/Headphone package as well.


The troll theory gets some substantiation.

Paul is telling me how Samson makes great gear, but I dunno. I

never
heard of them and the name sounds a little too much like Sam Ash.


Doooohhh!

But I admit the gear sounds great.


To you, in your current state of being informed...

I'm rounding out the setup with a Mac G5, Protools Digi02 and some
Alesis compressors and reverb units.


Alesis 3630s?

So whaddy think?
Is this da' bomb!!
Stephanie Goldfarb


playon wrote:

And you thought progamming Linux was a tough way to make a living...


Agreed. If ignorance is bliss and this isn't a troll, we're talking
mega-levels of bliss.




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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:10:42 +0000, LJM wrote:

Stephanie Goldfarb wrote:
After 14 years in the wedding business, a sideline locksmithing
business and a 1 year stint as a Linux programmer (not a dime to be
made in Linux, the users are too dammed cheap and steal everything) I
have decided to open my own recording studio.

I have about $40,000 to play with and I have started assembling gear.

Sam Ash seems to have everything I need and Paul Ash is assisting me
himself, but I just want to run things by this group.

I'm looking at Samson amplifiers,(400w/ch) Samson resolv monitors and a
presonus package which includes some great Peavy mikes, Hosa cables,
Berhinger mixing board (a real beauty) and a Samson Mike/Headphone
package as well.

Paul is telling me how Samson makes great gear, but I dunno. I never
heard of them and the name sounds a little too much like Sam Ash.

But I admit the gear sounds great.

I'm rounding out the setup with a Mac G5, Protools Digi02 and some
Alesis compressors and reverb units.

So whaddy think?
Is this da' bomb!!
Stephanie Goldfarb


I think you are going to learn how to turn 40K into 5K overnight.

Jim



I'll bet the salesperson at Sam Ash thinks he/she has died and gone to
heaven!
Seriously, you sound like a whale (a big time spender) and you really
should do more research before spending that kind of money.

Maybe give fletcher over at Mercenary a call.

http://www.mercenary.com/

Good luck



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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 08:31:49 -0400, Arny Krueger wrote:

[snip]


Agreed. If ignorance is bliss and this isn't a troll, we're talking
mega-levels of bliss.


I'm afraid it is a troll. The troller in question is usually know by his
nym "Flatfish+++" and by many other names, as follows:-

Aftab Singh, allison_hunt1969, Anna Banger, anonymous, Archie Watermann,
Baba Booey, Babu Singh, bill.gates.loves.me, bison, Bjarne Jensen,
BklynBoy, Boyce Mabri, Buster, Charlie, Choppers McGee, Christine
Abernathy, Claire Lynn, Collie Entragion, Deadpenguin, Elliot Zimmermann,
Fawn Lebowitz, flatfish+++, foamy, Gary Stewart, gilligan, Greg Laplante,
Heather, Heather69, hepcat, Ishmeal Hafizi, itchy balls, IvanaBSuckyB, Jeff
Szarka, juke_joint, kathy_krantz, Les Turner, Lilly, Lindy, Lisa Shavas,
long_tong_ling, Lukumi Babalu Aye, Major Mynor, McSwain, Moses,
nate_mcspook, okto_pussy, Paddy McCrockett, Patricia, phoung quoak,
pickle_pete, Poopy Pants McGee, Quimby, rothstein_ivan, Saul Goldblatt,
Sean, Sean Fitzhenry, Sean Macpherson, Sewer Rat, sewer_clown,
Spammy_Davis, spanny_davis, Stephan Simonsen, Stephen, SunnyB, Susan Wong,
Suzie Wong, Swampee, The Beaver, Thorsten, Tracee, trailerpark, Wang
Mycock, Whizzer, Wilbur J, Willy Wong, Winnie Septos,Wobbles and zyklon_C

His real name is Gary Stewart, and has been trolling in COLA for years.
Hence crossposting this into COLA and alt.locksmithing for no reason
whatsoever.

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RD Jones wrote:

Giving the benefit of the doubt that this thread
is not a troll ...


Idiot. You can't tell from the groups list?

*plonk*

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Get the amps that go all the way to 11. They're louder than the amps
that only go to 10.


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"Marc" wrote in message news
All followups repointed to rec.audio.pro



Thank you. I really don't understand why our regulars are replying
to the fully loaded newsgroup posting line... a troll is a troll, and any
nutcase that posts an audio question with a response pointed to a
locksmithing group if full of horse feces.




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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:06:45 -0700, Stephanie Goldfarb wrote:

After 14 years in the wedding business, a sideline locksmithing business
and a 1 year stint as a Linux programmer (not a dime to be made in Linux,
the users are too dammed cheap and steal everything) I have decided to
open my own recording studio.

I have about $40,000 to play with and I have started assembling gear.

Sam Ash seems to have everything I need and Paul Ash is assisting me
himself, but I just want to run things by this group.


Be afraid! Be very afraid!


I'm looking at Samson amplifiers,(400w/ch) Samson resolv monitors and a
presonus package which includes some great Peavy mikes, Hosa cables,
Berhinger mixing board (a real beauty) and a Samson Mike/Headphone package
as well.


NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo!!!!!!


Paul is telling me how Samson makes great gear, but I dunno. I never heard
of them and the name sounds a little too much like Sam Ash.

But I admit the gear sounds great.


Now, in the store it might. A year from now, your opinion may be very
different.


I'm rounding out the setup with a Mac G5, Protools Digi02 and some
Alesis compressors and reverb units.


That's not rounding out, that's piling on!


So whaddy think


Ya gotta crawl before you can walk. You've got a decent chunk of change &
(apparently) precious little experience. Mr. Ash smelled you coming a
mile away. Most of these sales weasel types will be glad to help you
spent your whole wad on third rate gear like this that you'll outgrow in a
year (if it doesn't break before then).

What you need to do, is spend a LITTLE money on a really BASIC setup you
can LEARN on. Buy what you NEED now, NOT of what some sales
weasel tells you you'll need later. That way, when you do need it, you'll
at least have some clue about the difference between pro level gear &
lookalike toys. Plus, if you only buy a few items at a time, you can get
much better quality for each item you buy.

Since you've got $40K burning a hole in your pocket, my recommendations
will be a little different (generally pricier) than for a typical novice,
but the objective is still the same.

First, you need something to record on. IMO, the Mbox will fit your needs
better than the 002. It's way cheaper, you still get the PT software, &
it's more portable, which can come in real handy. Did I mention it's way
cheaper?

If you already have an extra (reasonably fast) computer around, and you're
not just totally hung up on ProTools, why not check out one of the sound
cards from MAudio, Lynx, or RME? Don't get too extravagant. Remember,
this is computer stuff & it goes obsolete fairly quickly. Buy what you
NEED & save some money for the really important stuff.

Now the important stuff. Get a SMALL analog mixer. Mackie 1202VLZPro is
a standard recommendation, but you've got plenty of cash, so look at the
new Onyx line, or the smaller A&H Mixwizard.

You don't really need it right now, but since you've got the dough, go
ahead & get yourself an FMR Audio RNP mic preamp.

Microphones (the REALLY important stuff). Get a Shure SM57 and an
Electro-Voice 635a. Since you've got the cash, get an EV ND/468 too.
Record enough stuff through each until you can recognize them all in your
sleep. Then it'll be time to look for a pair of small diaphragm
condensers. AKG C535, Audio Technica AT4051, & Neumann KM184 are all good
choices, but you need to LISTEN to them & make your own decision. You
should be qualified to do this if you've done your homework with your 57,
635, & 486.

Monitors are another place you'll just have to listen & make your own
decision. I'll suggest active monitors, just because you won't have to
make a decision about an amp. (Whatever you get, you DON'T need anything
near 400 watts.) I'd venture a guess that most people end up hating
the first monitors they buy anyway, so it's probably good not to spend too
much money. Whatever you end up with, they will teach you what you like &
dislike about your next pair. Hell, an awful lot of people started out on
Radio Shack Minimus 7s. Plus, any monitor will be affected by the room
it's in. Go to Ethan Winer's RealTraps website & read all of Ethan's
acoustics articles. If you're serious about making good recordings,
you'll probably end up spending more on acoustical treatment than on gear.

Good luck! And by the way, crossposting is frowned upon.


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Ms. Goldfarb is a troll.


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