In article t writes:

Only if "a 386" means a whole, working computer, not just the CPU
chip.

Fraid so, Mike. CPU entire, monitor, keyboard, all working last I used
it. Why am I keeping it? There's still some room in the garage.

I managed to find someone to take my 386, 286, and 086 a few years
back, but I still have a 486SX in the shop, ready to go. It's the one
remaining computer around here with a 5-1/4" floppy drive, and I have
a big stack of 5-1/4" disks that probably have some very valuable
stuff on them, that I really should copy over some day.

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

"SSJVCmag"
, "John L Rice"

** Ok - so you are one of Dorsey's cocksuckers.

Welll.... Considering you have it kinda backwards, there HAVE been
occasions
when... Wait, you mean SCOTT.
Oh.
That's different.
Never Mind.


LOL! Nice one.


Glad SOMOEBODY's paying attention!
I'll be here all week, 2 shows a night.




** Like some lurid double act in a gay steam bath .




.............. Phil

On 3/30/05 12:01 AM, in article , "John L
Rice" wrote:

** Ok - so you are one of Dorsey's cocksuckers.

Welll.... Considering you have it kinda backwards, there HAVE been
occasions
when... Wait, you mean SCOTT.
Oh.
That's different.
Never Mind.


LOL! Nice one.


Glad SOMOEBODY's paying attention!
I'll be here all week, 2 shows a night.

In article writes:

** Seems you missed the technical debate here last year on the LM301A.

There was no debate. There was a series of assertations from someone
here. I don't remember who that was. Probaby someone stuck in 1960s
design concepts who can't let go.

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

"Mike Rivers" = do not feed the Parrot, he is full of crap already


** Seems you missed the technical debate here last year on the LM301A.

There was no debate.


** Then you ****ing missed it - like everything else.

You Parrot Brained, useless ****.





............. Phil

Phil Allison wrote:
"Joe Kramer" ...

From Horowitz and Hill, "Art of Electronics:"


POPULAR OP-AMPS

Sometimes a new op-amp comes along just at the right time, filling a
vaccuum with its combination of performance, convenience, and price.
Several companies begin to manufacture it (it becomes
"second-sourced"), designers become familiar with it, and you
have a hit. Here is a list of some popular favorites of recent
times:

301 First easy-to-use op-amp; first use of "lateral pnp." External
compensation. National.



The text goes on to cite 741, 1458, 308, 324, 355, TL081, LF411.




** Publication date ???????????




............. Phil



"The Art Of Electronics" Second Edition
Cambridge University Press 1989
ISBN 0 521 37095 7

Suggested excerpts:

P. 209, "Here Today, Gone Towmorrow" (discussion of obsolescence and the
semiconductor industry)

p. 211, "The 741 And Its Friends" (discussion of op amp history
beginning with Bob Widlar's Fairchild uA709 design)

The second excerpt takes this thread full circle, since the AD801 is in
fact an improved 709. Widlar also designed the 301, and I wonder what
HE would have to say about it now.

Chris Hornbeck wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:11:53 GMT, Joe Kramer
wrote:


Fraid so, Mike. CPU entire, monitor, keyboard, all working last I used
it. Why am I keeping it? There's still some room in the garage.


Still room in the garage?!! Sorry, club membership is denied. Modern
existentialist lightweights, grumble, mumble, mumble...

LOL! I forgot say: the 386 is sitting where the TRS-80 used to be,
hence the aforementioned room.

"Joe Kramer"
Phil Allison wrote:

From Horowitz and Hill, "Art of Electronics:"


POPULAR OP-AMPS

Sometimes a new op-amp comes along just at the right time, filling a
vaccuum with its combination of performance, convenience, and price.
Several companies begin to manufacture it (it becomes
"second-sourced"), designers become familiar with it, and you
have a hit. Here is a list of some popular favorites of recent
times:

301 First easy-to-use op-amp; first use of "lateral pnp." External
compensation. National.


The text goes on to cite 741, 1458, 308, 324, 355, TL081, LF411.


** Publication date ???????????



"The Art Of Electronics" Second Edition
Cambridge University Press 1989


** I was interested in the date of the remark - " Here is a list of some
popular favorites of recent
times:" The "recent times" appears to be the mid /late 1970s.

Seeing as you like to post without reference to ANY other posts the notions
of context and relevance are foreign to you.




............... Phil

"Phil Allison" wrote in message

"Joe Kramer"
Phil Allison wrote:

From Horowitz and Hill, "Art of Electronics:"

POPULAR OP-AMPS

Sometimes a new op-amp comes along just at the right time,
filling a vaccuum with its combination of performance,
convenience, and price. Several companies begin to manufacture
it (it becomes "second-sourced"), designers become familiar
with
it, and you have a hit. Here is a list of some popular
favorites of recent times:

301 First easy-to-use op-amp; first use of "lateral pnp."
External compensation. National.

The text goes on to cite 741, 1458, 308, 324, 355, TL081, LF411.

** Publication date ???????????

"The Art Of Electronics" Second Edition
Cambridge University Press 1989

The numeric referfences are probably carried over from the first
edition which came out some years earlier.

** I was interested in the date of the remark - " Here is a list
of some popular favorites of recent
times:" The "recent times" appears to be the mid /late 1970s.

Agreed.

Seeing as you like to post without reference to ANY other posts the
notions of context and relevance are foreign to you.

"Joe Kramer" is probably the same troll "Jocob Kramer" who putzed
around RAO for years.

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:59:37 +1000, "Phil Allison"
wrote:
"SSJVCmag"
"Phil Allison"

Phil, whatever your regular contributions, this sort of regular
'contribution' from you makes it all dumpable and is just SO 5th grader.
Stop it.

** Why should I let pubic liars and bull**** artist off " Scott " free ???

YOU need to answer this OR reveal your hidden agenda/s.

........... Phil

OHHHH, we DO have hidden agendas. Not the least of which is to provoke
you into making more childish, adolescent, largely irrelevant, and
generally all around STUPID comments that will firmly establish your
reputation as a pea-brained, socially retarded twit. We really are out
to get you, by making you look really bad. Please continue your
cooperation, ensuring the ongoing viability of our conspiracy.



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