A quick google search comes up with hundreds of results. Anyone have any
firsthand experience? I'd like to find a reliable high quality company to
make about 2,000 cds, plus printing and packaging.

By the way, if anyone wants to hear music from my project, please visit my
website, www.guestroomproject.com . I will be giving my CD away for
absolutely FREE, (not even a shipping charge). No strings attached, I just
want to get my music "out there"

to get the free cd, just send at email to the "contact me" on the website.

--

- Jonathan

FOUR BRAND SPANKIN NEW SONGS FOR YOU!
Added February 2005!
Go to http://www.guestroomproject.com/ to
hear some music from my upcoming solo album,
the Guestroom Project. I play all the instruments.

Jonathan,

Try Atlanta Manufacturing Group.

http://www.amgcds.com/

Tom

I know that this seems like a good idea in theory, but what you are
doing is devaluing your product. People don't mind paying for cds if
they like the music. you might think about getting some CDR duplication
services for a 3 song promo cd to get it "out there" and then selling
your full cd at current market rate. also allowing people to download
songs first will get some interest in buying your cd. People are used
to getting what they paid for, so from your cd, well, they will expect
nothing if it is free. You could do some online give aways, or make
people think they are getting a free cd that normally cost x amount of
dollars and would likely gain more fans for the fact that they think
they "won" something.

good luck, and try discmakers for production above 1000 cds, they have
especially good deals on digipaks. for inexpensive cdr duplication
that looks nice, try www.diskfaktory.com.

steve

a friend of mine used to be mastering engineer at one of the biggest
mastering places in the US, and knew a lot about CD duplication.

Give him a try for advice . . .



Chris

I use Disc Makers and haven't had a problem, but I've only done pressings
with them, not CD-R duplications. It's worth a look. The graphics
department is pretty good, and they have NEW mastering facilities that
appear to rival many of the better known facilities, although we all know
that it's the engineer. Assuming that a good engineer spec'd out the new
digs, they should have the stuff to do the job.

An old associate of mine uses Oasis and they seem to do a very good job,
too. And she's had maybe 100+ different CDs run through their setup, again,
being pressed, not duplicated. If you don't know the difference you'd
better be up on the jargon before you contact anyone. Pressings are more
impressive to potential Indie/Labels simply because they get home made CD-Rs
from everyone. If one wants to promote their music to the big boys they
have to have made the commitment to quality, and a pressed CD-DA is much
better than a CD-R.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/

"£ Î Z @ R Ð" wrote in message
...
A quick google search comes up with hundreds of results. Anyone have any
firsthand experience? I'd like to find a reliable high quality company to
make about 2,000 cds, plus printing and packaging.

By the way, if anyone wants to hear music from my project, please visit my
website, www.guestroomproject.com . I will be giving my CD away for
absolutely FREE, (not even a shipping charge). No strings attached, I
just
want to get my music "out there"

to get the free cd, just send at email to the "contact me" on the website.

--

- Jonathan

FOUR BRAND SPANKIN NEW SONGS FOR YOU!
Added February 2005!
Go to http://www.guestroomproject.com/ to
hear some music from my upcoming solo album,
the Guestroom Project. I play all the instruments.

Roger W. Norman wrote:

If one wants to promote their music to the big boys they
have to have made the commitment to quality, and a pressed CD-DA is much
better than a CD-R.

I still meet the odd players, both CD and DVD, that don't want to play a
particular CDR.

--
ha

An obvious additional reason. Sorry, Hank. Been busy. You support the
concept of a serious musician supporting their own music by making certain
that some A&R person doesn't end up with no sound. That certainly equals no
interest. And it's in the best interest of ones fan base, too, because you
don't want to sell CDs at gigs and not have the purchaser be able to play
them. Least common denominator and the methodology to make certain that
they aren't left out of the loop.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/

"hank alrich" wrote in message
.. .
Roger W. Norman wrote:

If one wants to promote their music to the big boys they
have to have made the commitment to quality, and a pressed CD-DA is much
better than a CD-R.

I still meet the odd players, both CD and DVD, that don't want to play a
particular CDR.

--
ha

In article ,
Roger W. Norman wrote:
An obvious additional reason. Sorry, Hank. Been busy. You support the
concept of a serious musician supporting their own music by making certain
that some A&R person doesn't end up with no sound. That certainly equals no
interest.

As someone who has recently been sending out DVD screeners of a short film
to festivals recently, I have become painfully aware of the problem with
interchangeability of DVD-Rs. It makes the problem with CD-Rs look minimal
in comparison... I have made a dozen different sorts of DVD-R and DVD+R discs
and some play in some players and others play in other players. For someone
wanting to send a disc out as a demo to someone who will not bother calling
when the disc is unplayable, but will merely discard it and go on to the
next disc in the pile, this is a huge deal.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

That's why I upgraded the DVD in the A64 to a DVD plus or minus R and having
been doing my stuff in both formats to provide for clients. Don't know what
the difference is, don't care. I only have the option of making certain
that what I give people is readable in their units, sans pressing. So what
if it costs extra for materials and labor? A ****ed off client isn't worth
the bad vibes and smears on one's reputation because of a lack of distinct
standards across the board on playback units. It's costing more trying to
get everything on the new system to work correctly but I'll guarantee that
once I've got it down, it will be right.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Roger W. Norman wrote:
An obvious additional reason. Sorry, Hank. Been busy. You support the
concept of a serious musician supporting their own music by making
certain
that some A&R person doesn't end up with no sound. That certainly equals
no
interest.

As someone who has recently been sending out DVD screeners of a short film
to festivals recently, I have become painfully aware of the problem with
interchangeability of DVD-Rs. It makes the problem with CD-Rs look
minimal
in comparison... I have made a dozen different sorts of DVD-R and DVD+R
discs
and some play in some players and others play in other players. For
someone
wanting to send a disc out as a demo to someone who will not bother
calling
when the disc is unplayable, but will merely discard it and go on to the
next disc in the pile, this is a huge deal.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

In article writes:

That's why I upgraded the DVD in the A64 to a DVD plus or minus R and having
been doing my stuff in both formats to provide for clients. Don't know what
the difference is, don't care. I only have the option of making certain
that what I give people is readable in their units

So what do you do? Make one DVD+ and one DVD-, send them both, and
tell your client to try the other one if the first one doesn't play?
That'll work for friends, but not very professional-impressive to
someone who doesn't know you or the artist representing himself with
your disks.

Is this the way things are today? I thought that I read that DVD+R was
the one to use if you wanted it to play on home players, and that
DVD-R would play in computers but may not play in home units.

Why is there even a distinction? Is there an advantage to using one
format over the other if both will play in a given device?

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

good place to start
http://dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#4.3.5

dale

It works for clients who want to see what the job turned out like. So far I
haven't had any problems with DVD-r discs as far as client playability. But
then having any solution to a client NOT being able to play it is better
than a client not being able to play it.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1110825948k@trad...

In article writes:

That's why I upgraded the DVD in the A64 to a DVD plus or minus R and
having
been doing my stuff in both formats to provide for clients. Don't know
what
the difference is, don't care. I only have the option of making certain
that what I give people is readable in their units

So what do you do? Make one DVD+ and one DVD-, send them both, and
tell your client to try the other one if the first one doesn't play?
That'll work for friends, but not very professional-impressive to
someone who doesn't know you or the artist representing himself with
your disks.

Is this the way things are today? I thought that I read that DVD+R was
the one to use if you wanted it to play on home players, and that
DVD-R would play in computers but may not play in home units.

Why is there even a distinction? Is there an advantage to using one
format over the other if both will play in a given device?

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

Mike Rivers wrote:

Is this the way things are today? I thought that I read that DVD+R was
the one to use if you wanted it to play on home players, and that
DVD-R would play in computers but may not play in home units.

I've never seen a problem in the three disposable POS DVD players I've
had, using DVD-R. But then I didn't know they shouldn't work.



Why is there even a distinction?


grrrrrr. no kidding. Another really stupid idea. Can't wait for
DVD*R, DVD/R, DVD.R, DVD%R.

I guess one of my problems is I only have a newer Pioneer that sees
virtually every damned format there is, including SACD and Digital Audio. I
got it for the studio but somehow it ended up on the widescreen. There's a
waste. 24/96 on widescreen speakers! g

But now I do have a question I haven't been able to figure out yet. I have
a couple of video/audio sets we did at Walter Reed AMC back in December for
the disabled soldiers. Two sets which individually I can play just fine on
the player. When I try to compile both mpgs onto one DVD, the audio
switches to 44.1 and loses sync with the video. But again, both play just
fine individually. The only difference in video files, it appears, is that
one is set at 8000 kbps while the other is set to 12000 kbps. I can't
figure this one out, so if anyone has a suggestion of something to try I'd
appreciate it. I don't mind burning DVDs if it's moving in a positive
direction, and the fallback is doing the files individually for the client,
but there's more than enough space on a DVD to do both. What am I missing?
And yes, both audio files are properly sync'd from the mixed 16 channel
digital audio which is set at 16/48k. Again, it works individually on DVDs,
just not when both files are present on the same DVD.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/

"S O'Neill" wrote in message
...
Mike Rivers wrote:

Is this the way things are today? I thought that I read that DVD+R was
the one to use if you wanted it to play on home players, and that
DVD-R would play in computers but may not play in home units.

I've never seen a problem in the three disposable POS DVD players I've
had, using DVD-R. But then I didn't know they shouldn't work.



Why is there even a distinction?


grrrrrr. no kidding. Another really stupid idea. Can't wait for
DVD*R, DVD/R, DVD.R, DVD%R.

Roger W. Norman wrote:

now I do have a question I haven't been able to figure out yet. I have
a couple of video/audio sets we did at Walter Reed AMC back in December for
the disabled soldiers. Two sets which individually I can play just fine on
the player. When I try to compile both mpgs onto one DVD, the audio
switches to 44.1 and loses sync with the video. But again, both play just
fine individually. The only difference in video files, it appears, is that
one is set at 8000 kbps while the other is set to 12000 kbps. I can't
figure this one out, so if anyone has a suggestion of something to try I'd
appreciate it.

So these are two separate VOBs with different bitrates? Are you sure
the rest of the settings are the same?

I'd post this in the one of the DVD authoring forae on doom9
http://forum.doom9.org/

Sorry. Working again.

Yep, it's the only difference I can determine. Rather than figure it out
I'm just going to accept that it takes two DVDs to do 1 hour and 23 minutes
of video in this particular case, and work on making things more consistent
on the next one! g

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/

"Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message
...
Roger W. Norman wrote:

now I do have a question I haven't been able to figure out yet. I have
a couple of video/audio sets we did at Walter Reed AMC back in December
for
the disabled soldiers. Two sets which individually I can play just fine
on
the player. When I try to compile both mpgs onto one DVD, the audio
switches to 44.1 and loses sync with the video. But again, both play
just
fine individually. The only difference in video files, it appears, is
that
one is set at 8000 kbps while the other is set to 12000 kbps. I can't
figure this one out, so if anyone has a suggestion of something to try
I'd
appreciate it.

So these are two separate VOBs with different bitrates? Are you sure
the rest of the settings are the same?

I'd post this in the one of the DVD authoring forae on doom9
http://forum.doom9.org/

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