One of the things that attracted me to this MOBO is the separate LINE
IN and line out connectors. The controls complexity, however, is
driving me bat****.

I'm running WXP with all the latest service packs and patches, and I've
got the NVIDIA drivers loaded for the ALC850, rev. 6.14.460.0

2 problems:

PROBLEM ONE

I can record just fine (sort of, see problem two) in Cool Edit Pro. I
can't play anything back. The saved files work ok on WMP10.

I've tried all the obvious things with NVMixer &/or Windows Master
Volume Control (for example, WAVE is enabled and volume is up.) It
does nothing. Nada. Zip.

PROBLEM TWO

The line out level from my hi fi preamp overloads the LINE IN on the
sound chip. I've got the Realtek ALC850 record level turned all the
way down, and I still get occasional clips.

I know the problem is not with the preamp because I've used this setup
with my older systems, and all was just peachy.

Interesting to note that the Realtek ALC850 hardware specs say that the
LINE IN 1.6 VRMS. It doesn't seem to be the case.

@@@@@@@@@
Suggestions?

Thanks.

pc

Well have you actually measured the output voltage from your preamp? Both of
your problems might come from that. Did the first problem show up before or
after you plugged in your preamp? Chip might be toast if you're really
unlucky. Also check the mobo connectors, while they are practical, sometimes
they are hard to connect properly. Are you trying to playback while you are
recording? If so it might be that the sound chip, probably AC97, isn't full
duplex capable. That means that you can only listen OR record, not do both
at the same time.

Hope that helps...

Hugo

"pc" wrote in message
oups.com...
One of the things that attracted me to this MOBO is the separate LINE
IN and line out connectors. The controls complexity, however, is
driving me bat****.

I'm running WXP with all the latest service packs and patches, and I've
got the NVIDIA drivers loaded for the ALC850, rev. 6.14.460.0

2 problems:

PROBLEM ONE

I can record just fine (sort of, see problem two) in Cool Edit Pro. I
can't play anything back. The saved files work ok on WMP10.

I've tried all the obvious things with NVMixer &/or Windows Master
Volume Control (for example, WAVE is enabled and volume is up.) It
does nothing. Nada. Zip.

PROBLEM TWO

The line out level from my hi fi preamp overloads the LINE IN on the
sound chip. I've got the Realtek ALC850 record level turned all the
way down, and I still get occasional clips.

I know the problem is not with the preamp because I've used this setup
with my older systems, and all was just peachy.

Interesting to note that the Realtek ALC850 hardware specs say that the
LINE IN 1.6 VRMS. It doesn't seem to be the case.

@@@@@@@@@
Suggestions?

Thanks.

pc

Hugo Lalumiere wrote:
Well have you actually measured the output voltage from your preamp?
Both of
your problems might come from that. Did the first problem show up
before or
after you plugged in your preamp? Chip might be toast if you're
really
unlucky. Also check the mobo connectors, while they are practical,
sometimes
they are hard to connect properly. Are you trying to playback while
you are
recording? If so it might be that the sound chip, probably AC97,
isn't full
duplex capable. That means that you can only listen OR record, not do
both
at the same time.

Hope that helps...

Hugo

"pc" wrote in message
oups.com...
One of the things that attracted me to this MOBO is the separate
LINE
IN and line out connectors. The controls complexity, however, is
driving me bat****.

I'm running WXP with all the latest service packs and patches, and
I've
got the NVIDIA drivers loaded for the ALC850, rev. 6.14.460.0

2 problems:

PROBLEM ONE

I can record just fine (sort of, see problem two) in Cool Edit Pro.
I
can't play anything back. The saved files work ok on WMP10.

I've tried all the obvious things with NVMixer &/or Windows Master
Volume Control (for example, WAVE is enabled and volume is up.) It
does nothing. Nada. Zip.

PROBLEM TWO

The line out level from my hi fi preamp overloads the LINE IN on
the
sound chip. I've got the Realtek ALC850 record level turned all
the
way down, and I still get occasional clips.

I know the problem is not with the preamp because I've used this
setup
with my older systems, and all was just peachy.

Interesting to note that the Realtek ALC850 hardware specs say that
the
LINE IN 1.6 VRMS. It doesn't seem to be the case.

@@@@@@@@@
Suggestions?

Thanks.

pc

I could put a scope on the output, but why? The preamp output worked
with other computers just fine. It is a Soundcraftman preamp. I'm
using the same cable. I suppose I may have to actually check the
levels with a scope, but I doubt that 's the problem.

The sound chip has 4 DACS and an ADC, but the problem isn't one of
hearing while recording -- that works OK, probably because I'm hearing
the LINE IN.

Problem ONE is that the files just won't play in Cool Edit Pro. When
not recording. Program behaves normally otherwise. On play when not
recording, no sound - lots of program activity, waveform scrolls by,
etc., but no sound.

The same files play fine in WMP10.

Ooops my bad, didn't realize the problem was localized to cool edit.

Sorry bout that...

Hugo

"pc" wrote in message
ups.com...

Hugo Lalumiere wrote:
Well have you actually measured the output voltage from your preamp?
Both of
your problems might come from that. Did the first problem show up
before or
after you plugged in your preamp? Chip might be toast if you're
really
unlucky. Also check the mobo connectors, while they are practical,
sometimes
they are hard to connect properly. Are you trying to playback while
you are
recording? If so it might be that the sound chip, probably AC97,
isn't full
duplex capable. That means that you can only listen OR record, not do
both
at the same time.

Hope that helps...

Hugo

"pc" wrote in message
oups.com...
One of the things that attracted me to this MOBO is the separate
LINE
IN and line out connectors. The controls complexity, however, is
driving me bat****.

I'm running WXP with all the latest service packs and patches, and
I've
got the NVIDIA drivers loaded for the ALC850, rev. 6.14.460.0

2 problems:

PROBLEM ONE

I can record just fine (sort of, see problem two) in Cool Edit Pro.
I
can't play anything back. The saved files work ok on WMP10.

I've tried all the obvious things with NVMixer &/or Windows Master
Volume Control (for example, WAVE is enabled and volume is up.) It
does nothing. Nada. Zip.

PROBLEM TWO

The line out level from my hi fi preamp overloads the LINE IN on
the
sound chip. I've got the Realtek ALC850 record level turned all
the
way down, and I still get occasional clips.

I know the problem is not with the preamp because I've used this
setup
with my older systems, and all was just peachy.

Interesting to note that the Realtek ALC850 hardware specs say that
the
LINE IN 1.6 VRMS. It doesn't seem to be the case.

@@@@@@@@@
Suggestions?

Thanks.

pc

I could put a scope on the output, but why? The preamp output worked
with other computers just fine. It is a Soundcraftman preamp. I'm
using the same cable. I suppose I may have to actually check the
levels with a scope, but I doubt that 's the problem.

The sound chip has 4 DACS and an ADC, but the problem isn't one of
hearing while recording -- that works OK, probably because I'm hearing
the LINE IN.

Problem ONE is that the files just won't play in Cool Edit Pro. When
not recording. Program behaves normally otherwise. On play when not
recording, no sound - lots of program activity, waveform scrolls by,
etc., but no sound.

The same files play fine in WMP10.

Snip

I could put a scope on the output, but why? The preamp output
worked
with other computers just fine. It is a Soundcraftman preamp. I'm
using the same cable. I suppose I may have to actually check the
levels with a scope, but I doubt that 's the problem.

The sound chip has 4 DACS and an ADC, but the problem isn't one of
hearing while recording -- that works OK, probably because I'm
hearing
the LINE IN.

Problem ONE is that the files just won't play in Cool Edit Pro.
When
not recording. Program behaves normally otherwise. On play when
not
recording, no sound - lots of program activity, waveform scrolls by,
etc., but no sound.

The same files play fine in WMP10.

You may have to reinstall or upgrade your sound drivers. I had to do
that the other day with one of my PCs that I had connected to my
Laptop for recording some DMR .WMAs to .WAVs.

WMP9 kept trashing the audio drivers for my onboard VIA AC97 sound
chip.
--
Chas. (Drop spamski to E-mail me)

pc wrote:
One of the things that attracted me to this MOBO is the separate LINE
IN and line out connectors. The controls complexity, however, is
driving me bat****.

I'm running WXP with all the latest service packs and patches, and
I've
got the NVIDIA drivers loaded for the ALC850, rev. 6.14.460.0

2 problems:

PROBLEM ONE

I can record just fine (sort of, see problem two) in Cool Edit Pro.
I
can't play anything back. The saved files work ok on WMP10.

I've tried all the obvious things with NVMixer &/or Windows Master
Volume Control (for example, WAVE is enabled and volume is up.) It
does nothing. Nada. Zip.

PROBLEM TWO

The line out level from my hi fi preamp overloads the LINE IN on the
sound chip. I've got the Realtek ALC850 record level turned all the
way down, and I still get occasional clips.

I know the problem is not with the preamp because I've used this
setup
with my older systems, and all was just peachy.

Interesting to note that the Realtek ALC850 hardware specs say that
the
LINE IN 1.6 VRMS. It doesn't seem to be the case.

@@@@@@@@@
Suggestions?

Thanks.

pc

Well, duh, PROBLEM ONE solved. It helps to remember that in most
motherboard manual connection layouts that the image is upside down
from the way it gets installed in the case. WRONG OUPUTS.

We'll address PROBLEM TWO after the taxes are done (it WAS connected
properly.)

pc

"pc" wrote in message
oups.com
One of the things that attracted me to this MOBO is the separate LINE
IN and line out connectors. The controls complexity, however, is
driving me bat****.

I'm running WXP with all the latest service packs and patches, and
I've got the NVIDIA drivers loaded for the ALC850, rev. 6.14.460.0

2 problems:

PROBLEM ONE

I can record just fine (sort of, see problem two) in Cool Edit Pro. I
can't play anything back. The saved files work ok on WMP10.

Probable cause is incorrect settings in Options, Device Order. You have to
specifically assign the input and output devices. You may have lucked out on
input devices, but not been so lucky with output devices.

PROBLEM TWO

The line out level from my hi fi preamp overloads the LINE IN on the
sound chip. I've got the Realtek ALC850 record level turned all the
way down, and I still get occasional clips.

You need some kind of an external attenuator.

I know the problem is not with the preamp because I've used this setup
with my older systems, and all was just peachy.

Interesting to note that the Realtek ALC850 hardware specs say that
the LINE IN 1.6 VRMS. It doesn't seem to be the case.


Try recording from the regular output jacks of your preamp (not the tape
out) and just turn the volume down.