I heard about this thing a while back, but ads starting showing up
recently and it made me go hmmmmmm?

I've heard this DSD thing is way cool but I guess I'm wondering once
you get the material mixed to DSD, then what do you do with it?

They talk about being able to transfer it to your DAW, but what
programs read this format?

Do mastering houses accept (and do they like) DSD format?

In a world of MP3 players, it seems like the high res CD formats are
falling on their faces from lack of consumer interest, so I'm wondering
what the advantage of this device, other than being able to store a lot
of regular mixes on a DVD, or being a more expensive hardware CD
recorder are.

Are there any programs and audio interfaces that can do what this thing
does?

I do use my hardware CD recorder a fair amount, but I imagine this
Tascam DV-RA1000 recorder is rather expensive at the moment.

I'm kind of wondering if this thing is headed for the same fate as
their 24 bit DAT recorder.

Thanks,

Analogeezer

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I've heard this DSD thing is way cool but I guess I'm wondering once
you get the material mixed to DSD, then what do you do with it?

You play it in a DSD player, silly!

They talk about being able to transfer it to your DAW, but what
programs read this format?

None. That's not the point. The purpose is to make a home-playable
high resolution copy for a client or for your own enjoyment in your
living room, played on a DVD player. Use the DVD-A format.

Back in "the day," we used to give the client a casette copy as a
reference, first because it was inexpensive, second, because it was
something he could play at home or in the car, and third, because it
sounded bad enough so that he wouldn't release his project from the
cassette recording and not pay his bill for the finished master tape.

I do use my hardware CD recorder a fair amount, but I imagine this
Tascam DV-RA1000 recorder is rather expensive at the moment.

Under $1500, as I recall.

I'm kind of wondering if this thing is headed for the same fate as
their 24 bit DAT recorder.

Probably not. A lot of people were enthusiastic about it at the AES
show where it was introduced, particularly mastering engineers, so
they could deliver high-res reference copies to their clients.


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On 1/22/05 8:57 AM, in article
,
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I've heard this DSD thing is way cool but I guess I'm wondering once
you get the material mixed to DSD, then what do you do with it?

You send it to your DSD-capable mastering studio.


They talk about being able to transfer it to your DAW, but what
programs read this format?

SDIF-3 is the DSD digital connection. Any DSD DAW should accept this format.
(Sony Sonoma, Sadie, Pyramix)


Do mastering houses accept (and do they like) DSD format?

Most do not have DSD capabilities (us included), however this unit may help
open the door to more accessibility. The ones that do would probably love to
get DSD mixes.


In a world of MP3 players, it seems like the high res CD formats are
falling on their faces from lack of consumer interest, so I'm wondering
what the advantage of this device, other than being able to store a lot
of regular mixes on a DVD, or being a more expensive hardware CD
recorder are.

The advantage would be that for those projects that will be released in
hi-def (192kHz or DSD) than this device offers a (relatively) cheap means to
that end. It's not going to change the way people listen to music.


Are there any programs and audio interfaces that can do what this thing
does?

Only full-on DSD workstations, as far as I know. Mytek Digital had been
working on a stand-alone DSD recorder a few years ago, but I think they
abandoned it.


I do use my hardware CD recorder a fair amount, but I imagine this
Tascam DV-RA1000 recorder is rather expensive at the moment.

You've got to think of it as a competitor to the Alesis MasterLink, not
other CD recorders.


I'm kind of wondering if this thing is headed for the same fate as
their 24 bit DAT recorder.

I think with the availability/cost of DVD media and the wide-ranging
capabilities (16/44.1 through DSD) it's got a better chance than the 24-bit
DAT. Only time will tell.


Allen
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Houston, TX

On 1/23/05 8:02 AM, in article znr1106488543k@trad, "Mike Rivers"
wrote:

None. That's not the point. The purpose is to make a home-playable
high resolution copy for a client or for your own enjoyment in your
living room, played on a DVD player. Use the DVD-A format.

Not quite, Mike. Here's a quote from the Tascam FAQ:

-----
Q: Does the DV-RA1000 record Super Audio CD or DVD-Audio discs?
A: No. It records audio files that are ideal for mastering to DVD-Audio
(DVD-A) or Super Audio CD (SACD). However, discs recorded in the DV-RA1000
cannot be played in a SACD or DVD-A player.

Q: Does it play SACD or DVD-A discs?
A: No, it will play DV-RA1000 discs or CDs.

Q: What can I do with the discs?
A: The discs can be played in any computer with a DVD-ROM drive capable of
playing DVD+RW discs. It creates UDF discs, a standard format read by
virtually all computer platforms, including Mac, Windows and Linux. The
files recorded are Broadcast Wave (.WAV) or DSDIFF (.DFF) files.
-----

Read more Q&A's he

http://tascam.com/Products/DV-RA1000/DVRA1000FAQ.html

Kind of makes it not so attractive after all. Disappointing.

Allen
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Mastering Engineer
Essential Sound Mastering
Houston, TX

In article writes:

Q: Does the DV-RA1000 record Super Audio CD or DVD-Audio discs?
A: No. It records audio files that are ideal for mastering to DVD-Audio
(DVD-A) or Super Audio CD (SACD). However, discs recorded in the DV-RA1000
cannot be played in a SACD or DVD-A player.

Thanks for the update. I thought that since it said it records DVD-A
or SACD, that it would be playable at home. That's what those formats
are. Must be a missing TOC kind of thing. Kind of silly, really, that
it comes that close. Who wants to listen to a reference disk on a
computer? (unless of course that computer happens to be in the living
room tucked in with the stereo, which we're getting mighty close to)



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In article writes:

Mytek Digital had been
working on a stand-alone DSD recorder a few years ago, but I think they
abandoned it.

Actually, what they were working on for years and never finished was a
stand-alone CD recorder. At the AES show last Fall, they upgraded it
to DSD, which they say will actually come out.



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On 1/25/05 8:50 PM, in article znr1106699864k@trad, "Mike Rivers"
wrote:


In article writes:

Mytek Digital had been
working on a stand-alone DSD recorder a few years ago, but I think they
abandoned it.

Actually, what they were working on for years and never finished was a
stand-alone CD recorder. At the AES show last Fall, they upgraded it
to DSD, which they say will actually come out.


I could swear that I used to have a PDF from Mytek for the D-Master
Recorder, which was at LEAST 4 years old. The D-Master was supposed to be a
1U 24/96 (and later, DSD) recording interface that hooked up to an external
hard drive.

Maybe I'm loosing faster than I thought!


Allen
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Mastering Engineer
Essential Sound Mastering
Houston, TX

In article writes:

Actually, what they were working on for years and never finished was a
stand-alone CD recorder. At the AES show last Fall, they upgraded it
to DSD, which they say will actually come out.

I could swear that I used to have a PDF from Mytek for the D-Master
Recorder, which was at LEAST 4 years old. The D-Master was supposed to be a
1U 24/96 (and later, DSD) recording interface that hooked up to an external
hard drive.

You know, I think you're right. But whatever it was, it never came to
market. I may have been thinking of something earlier still. Or maybe
not.


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