Hi all,

I have a compaq laptop running a pentium 3 (1.2 Ghz) with 256mb of
RAM. i also have an allen and heath GL 424 board that has direct outs
on it (used for live work). i would like to do some basic home
recording so i need some advice on how to get audio into my computer.
i would like to be able to record up to eight tracks simultaneously.
the protools 002 rack (i am familiar with protools LE) looks ideal but
i think my computer might be a bit wimpy and i dont have a firewire
connection (USB only)?
is it possible to beef up my PC to run the 002 or could someone please
recommend other alternatives (MOTU, M-audio,etc.).

thanks in advance for any advice,
Hugh.

"Hugh Fox" wrote in message
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Hi all,

I have a compaq laptop running a pentium 3 (1.2 Ghz) with 256mb of
RAM. i also have an allen and heath GL 424 board that has direct outs
on it (used for live work). i would like to do some basic home
recording so i need some advice on how to get audio into my computer.
i would like to be able to record up to eight tracks simultaneously.
the protools 002 rack (i am familiar with protools LE) looks ideal but
i think my computer might be a bit wimpy and i dont have a firewire
connection (USB only)?
is it possible to beef up my PC to run the 002 or could someone please
recommend other alternatives (MOTU, M-audio,etc.).

thanks in advance for any advice,

The M-Audio Delta 1010 and Delta 1010LT are fine cards in their respective
classs, and work well in machines in your power class. I have one of each.

Hi all,

I have a compaq laptop running a pentium 3 (1.2 Ghz) with 256mb of
RAM. i also have an allen and heath GL 424 board that has direct outs
on it (used for live work). i would like to do some basic home
recording so i need some advice on how to get audio into my computer.
i would like to be able to record up to eight tracks simultaneously.
the protools 002 rack (i am familiar with protools LE) looks ideal but
i think my computer might be a bit wimpy and i dont have a firewire
connection (USB only)?
is it possible to beef up my PC to run the 002 or could someone please
recommend other alternatives (MOTU, M-audio,etc.).

thanks in advance for any advice,

The M-Audio Delta 1010 and Delta 1010LT are fine cards in their respective
classs, and work well in machines in your power class. I have one of each.

I think he intends to put this into a laptop. If so, I thought the Delta
cards were PCI (unless there is a PCMCIA version?). There are two ways to go
here. Pick up a Layla with the PCMCIA adapter, or go with one of the
Firewire or USB 2.0 external boxes. There are a number of options for this
such as the Presonus Firepod for Firewire or the BCA2000 from Behringer for
USB 2.0. But, to sync up to your laptop, you would still need to have a
PCMCIA Firewire or USB 2.0 adapter card. Although your laptop has USB, it is
probably USB 1.1 which would not be compatible with the newer multichannel
USB 2.0 units like the BCA2000 and the Edirol USB 2.0 box.

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Hi all,

I have a compaq laptop running a pentium 3 (1.2 Ghz) with 256mb of
RAM. i also have an allen and heath GL 424 board that has direct
outs on it (used for live work). i would like to do some basic home
recording so i need some advice on how to get audio into my
computer. i would like to be able to record up to eight tracks
simultaneously. the protools 002 rack (i am familiar with protools
LE) looks ideal but i think my computer might be a bit wimpy and i
dont have a firewire connection (USB only)?
is it possible to beef up my PC to run the 002 or could someone
please recommend other alternatives (MOTU, M-audio,etc.).

thanks in advance for any advice,

The M-Audio Delta 1010 and Delta 1010LT are fine cards in their
respective classs, and work well in machines in your power class. I
have one of each.
I think he intends to put this into a laptop.

Right.

If so, I thought the
Delta cards were PCI (unless there is a PCMCIA version?).

Right.

There are
two ways to go here. Pick up a Layla with the PCMCIA adapter, or go
with one of the Firewire or USB 2.0 external boxes. There are a
number of options for this such as the Presonus Firepod for Firewire
or the BCA2000 from Behringer for USB 2.0. But, to sync up to your
laptop, you would still need to have a PCMCIA Firewire or USB 2.0
adapter card.

I think so. Trying to run 8 channels on USB 1.1 is like mission impossible.

Although your laptop has USB, it is probably USB 1.1
which would not be compatible with the newer multichannel USB 2.0
units like the BCA2000 and the Edirol USB 2.0 box.

I suspect that a BCA2000 has limited function with USB 1.1, but again not
the full possible channel/sample complement that it supports.

The combination of a BCA2000 and an ADA8000 seems like an interesting
8-channel alternative for an attractive price around $450. Unlike a lot of
its competition, it includes 8 mic inputs or 8 line inputs or mix and match.

Arny Krueger wrote:
I think so. Trying to run 8 channels on USB 1.1 is like mission impossible.

It's not just like mission impossible, it is impossible if they're
24 bit 96 kHz channels. That would require a minimum theoretical
bandwidth of 2,304,000 bits per second, and USB 1.1 has a maximum
theoretical bandwidth of about 1,500,000 bits per second.

8 channels at 44.1 kHz *might* be possible, because that comes in
at about half the theoretical max for USB 1.1. But it certainly
doesn't seem like a good idea.

- Logan

Yep, this is all true. But, there are USB 2.0/Firewire cards you can get to
plug into the PCMCIA slot of a laptop (e.g.
http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...140&pfp=SEARCH).
So, with this, he should be able to choose either a Firewire or USB 2.0 I/O
box.

Craig

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"Logan Shaw" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:
I think so. Trying to run 8 channels on USB 1.1 is like mission
impossible.

It's not just like mission impossible, it is impossible if they're
24 bit 96 kHz channels. That would require a minimum theoretical
bandwidth of 2,304,000 bits per second, and USB 1.1 has a maximum
theoretical bandwidth of about 1,500,000 bits per second.

8 channels at 44.1 kHz *might* be possible, because that comes in
at about half the theoretical max for USB 1.1. But it certainly
doesn't seem like a good idea.

- Logan

In article ucmHd.8513$nt.1223@fed1read06 writes:

Yep, this is all true. But, there are USB 2.0/Firewire cards you can get to
plug into the PCMCIA slot of a laptop

I bought an Adaptec USB2/Firewire card to plug into the PCMCIA slot on
my laptop. Fought with it for the better part of three days and
eventually gave up and returned it. I think the Firewire port worked
(I was able to transfer files from the PC to my Jukebox 3) but I never
got the USB port working. I could see directories and files on a
memory stick or flash card reader (both USB2 devices that I've been
using on the USB1.1 port on the computer) but trying to open a file or
even copy it to the computer's disk drive caused Windoze to crash
hard, requiring a power-off to restart.

My interpretation of Adaptec's attempt to help me was that my computer
wasn't new enough to support it and that I should upgrade. Hell, if I
upgrade my laptop (like, buy a new one) it'll have a Firewire and USB2
port on it. They did suggest a flash BIOS update, but since this is a
working computer, I didn't want to risk breaking everything in case
that didn't go well.


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In article ucmHd.8513$nt.1223@fed1read06
writes:

Yep, this is all true. But, there are USB 2.0/Firewire cards you can get
to
plug into the PCMCIA slot of a laptop

I bought an Adaptec USB2/Firewire card to plug into the PCMCIA slot on
my laptop. Fought with it for the better part of three days and
eventually gave up and returned it. I think the Firewire port worked
(I was able to transfer files from the PC to my Jukebox 3) but I never
got the USB port working. I could see directories and files on a
memory stick or flash card reader (both USB2 devices that I've been
using on the USB1.1 port on the computer) but trying to open a file or
even copy it to the computer's disk drive caused Windoze to crash
hard, requiring a power-off to restart.

My interpretation of Adaptec's attempt to help me was that my computer
wasn't new enough to support it and that I should upgrade. Hell, if I
upgrade my laptop (like, buy a new one) it'll have a Firewire and USB2
port on it. They did suggest a flash BIOS update, but since this is a
working computer, I didn't want to risk breaking everything in case
that didn't go well.

See if Belkin makes something that will work.

Peace,
Paul

Hugh Fox wrote:
Hi all,

I have a compaq laptop running a pentium 3 (1.2 Ghz) with 256mb of
RAM. i also have an allen and heath GL 424 board that has direct outs
on it (used for live work). i would like to do some basic home
recording so i need some advice on how to get audio into my computer.
i would like to be able to record up to eight tracks simultaneously.
the protools 002 rack (i am familiar with protools LE) looks ideal
but
i think my computer might be a bit wimpy and i dont have a firewire
connection (USB only)?
is it possible to beef up my PC to run the 002 or could someone
please
recommend other alternatives (MOTU, M-audio,etc.).

thanks in advance for any advice,
Hugh.

For the Digi002 I would recommend at least 520 mb RAM (I am running a
gig). It works great on USB 2, bombs bad with USB 1, you can use a pci
card that fits into the slot to convert to USB2 to connect to an
external hard drive. Probably can hub it via USB 2 to the 002 box as
well. It is essential to use an External HD connected to USB2 or
firewire. You don't want to suck up your internal HD with these huge
files.

You might visit the digidesign web site to get some better advice about
what you can and can't do with your configuration. Good luck.