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I've been wanting one of these since I saw the commercial months ago but I
haven't tried one and don't do enough soldering to make it worthwhile. Cool
idea if it works though.

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I've been wanting one of these since I saw the commercial months ago
but I
haven't tried one and don't do enough soldering to make it
worthwhile. Cool
idea if it works though.

Anybody actaully try one of these.
It seems to me they would need to use a tip of very low thermal mass
and need a thermal feedback loop to maintain the temperture as you
apply thermal loading, i.e. touch the tip to the metal you want to heat
up. Most modern soldering irons use some kind of thermal feedback.
Also it seems that there just is not enough energy in a handfull of AA
cells to do any real soldering work...
But who knows?

Anybody actually try one?

Mark

also see this:

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/4623

sounds like its just passes the current through the joint.
May be useful if your up on a roof but otherwise not.

Mark

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Anybody actaully try one of these.
It seems to me they would need to use a tip of very low thermal mass
and need a thermal feedback loop to maintain the temperture as you
apply thermal loading, i.e. touch the tip to the metal you want to heat
up.

I'm not sure what the big deal is. I used to use an Iso-Tip battery
powered iron on my bench all the time. It was nice not to be dragging
a tail when things got cluttered. It heated up in a couple of seconds,
and got handling cool in less than a minute. The battery died, so I
replace it, and shortly thereafter, the charger died, so I retired it.
I've always thought about getting another because it sure was handy,
and I could toss it in my tool kit when I went out in the field.

The Iso-Tip has a real tip with a real heating element (and an assortment
of tip sizes) where that $19.95 miracle thing apparently is a couple of
contacts and the heat comes from the resistance of whatever you're
soldering. That works well for some things like loose connector pins
but I doubt it's worth a hoot for circuit board work.



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On 17 Jan 2005 06:14:35 -0800, "Mark" wrote:

also see this:

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/4623

sounds like its just passes the current through the joint.

With that in mind, go back and look at this pic in the middle of
the page:
https://www.asseenontvnetwork.com/vc...ldheat/115261/
That thing is hovering above a high-density SMT board, and no doubt
those chips won't work well after having a high current go through
them.

It's called "resistance soldering" and I think the concept has been
around a while. But this thing... it's right on par with the Chinese
thin-metal wire stripper you can get at the dollar stores, but there's
the TV ads for them with some instructional CD's for only $19.95,
operators are standing by...
I bought a Palladin wire stripper for about $40 over 20 years ago,
they're now in the $70-80 range, but mine still works fine. So anytime
I wonder if it's really worth it to buy an expensive tool...

May be useful if your up on a roof but otherwise not.

Mark

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Ben Bradley wrote:
I bought a Palladin wire stripper for about $40 over 20 years ago,
they're now in the $70-80 range, but mine still works fine. So anytime
I wonder if it's really worth it to buy an expensive tool...

Are they _ever_ going to make a model that works on teflon wire? I really
love those things on PVC but they just plain don't work on teflon. I think
Jensen sold a similar one that was supposed to work on teflon wire briefly
but it didn't work very well for me either.
--scott

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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
Ben Bradley wrote:
I bought a Palladin wire stripper for about $40 over 20 years ago,
they're now in the $70-80 range, but mine still works fine. So anytime
I wonder if it's really worth it to buy an expensive tool...

Are they _ever_ going to make a model that works on teflon wire? I really
love those things on PVC but they just plain don't work on teflon. I
think
Jensen sold a similar one that was supposed to work on teflon wire briefly
but it didn't work very well for me either.

I use a Miller model 100. It works perfectly on teflon wire, but only if
you adjust the gap precisely, and twist the stripper slightly before
removing the insulation.

Norm Strong

Ben Bradley wrote:
On 17 Jan 2005 06:14:35 -0800, "Mark" wrote:

also see this:

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/4623

sounds like its just passes the current through the joint.

With that in mind, go back and look at this pic in the middle of
the page:
https://www.asseenontvnetwork.com/vc...ldheat/115261/
That thing is hovering above a high-density SMT board, and no doubt
those chips won't work well after having a high current go through
them.

It's called "resistance soldering" and I think the concept has
been
around a while. But this thing... it's right on par with the Chinese
thin-metal wire stripper you can get at the dollar stores, but
there's
the TV ads for them with some instructional CD's for only $19.95,
operators are standing by...
I bought a Palladin wire stripper for about $40 over 20 years ago,
they're now in the $70-80 range, but mine still works fine. So
anytime
I wonder if it's really worth it to buy an expensive tool...

May be useful if your up on a roof but otherwise not.

Mark

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http://mindspring.com/~benbradley

You know, I bought one of those little refillable butane-powered $20
radio shack irons for field work. So far it hasn't let me down for
simple jobs like cable fixes, though the tip is too unwieldly/huge for
tight work. Not "cold heat" but it's got good portability.

Dan Lynn