"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
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But the world is still waiting for the replacement for the
professional grade portable DAT recorder.

I think ,you just made my night. I pick up a second hand tascam DA -P1 with
Sony stereo Mic ( I don't use that too much) for $800.00, last year and
it's been my best friend at the little concerts we do . I thought maybe I
was going backwards in buying it .But the tascam dat works well with the
pair of mic's I use.

Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
http://www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com/

In article .net writes:

I pick up a second hand tascam DA -P1 with
Sony stereo Mic ( I don't use that too much) for $800.00, last year and
it's been my best friend at the little concerts we do . I thought maybe I
was going backwards in buying it .But the tascam dat works well with the
pair of mic's I use.

Take good care of it and say nice things to it. Once it dies, it's
highly unlikely that it will ever be repaired. I have a dead DA-P20,
which is why I'm on a quest for a suitable replacement. I could buy a
Marantz PMD670 but I would only consider that a temporary solution,
and it's too expensive to put on the shelf after a year or two. At
least the DAT had a good 8 year run.





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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
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Take good care of it and say nice things to it.


Hey, you know that trick! I give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat each
day while flipping a load of wash.



Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
http://www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com

In article .net writes:

Hey, you know that trick! I give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat each
day while flipping a load of wash.

17 years on a water heater! I'm impressed. The ones I buy seem to
have cracked the secret of the car battery warranty. As soon as the
warranty period is up, you can count on them going within a couple of
months.

Good thing some of my audio gear didn't come with a 10 year warranty.



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http://www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com/
"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
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In article .net
writes:

Hey, you know that trick! I give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat
each
day while flipping a load of wash.

17 years on a water heater! I'm impressed. The ones I buy seem to
have cracked the secret of the car battery warranty. As soon as the
warranty period is up, you can count on them going within a couple of
months.

I know, I have a few apartments that every 10 year , hot water heater is
done. This 17 year old one , in my own place in just a "a.j. smith" and is
over work with my four kids and their baths and bed sheets . . .She's my
lucky hot water heater. :)




Good thing some of my audio gear didn't come with a 10 year warranty.

I hope my DAT has the same luck."?)

--
Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
http://www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com/

--
Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
http://www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com/
"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1100470482k@trad...

In article .net
writes:

Hey, you know that trick! I give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat
each
day while flipping a load of wash.

17 years on a water heater! I'm impressed. The ones I buy seem to
have cracked the secret of the car battery warranty. As soon as the
warranty period is up, you can count on them going within a couple of
months.

I know, I have a few apartments that every 10 year , hot water heater is
done. This 17 year old one , in my own place in just a "a.j. smith" and is
over work with my four kids and their baths and bed sheets . . .She's my
lucky hot water heater. :)




Good thing some of my audio gear didn't come with a 10 year warranty.

I hope my DAT has the same luck."?)

--
Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
http://www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com/

Mike Rivers wrote:
In article .net writes:


Hey, you know that trick! I give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat
each day while flipping a load of wash.


17 years on a water heater! I'm impressed. The ones I buy seem to
have cracked the secret of the car battery warranty. As soon as the
warranty period is up, you can count on them going within a couple of
months.

If you change the anode rods out, they can last an amazingly long time. This information seems to have been forgotten sometime in the past 30 years or so.

In article writes:

If you change the anode rods out, they can last an amazingly long time. This
information seems to have been forgotten sometime in the past 30 years or so.

I have a gas water heater. I suspect that the failure mode is that
sediment collects on the bottom, which eventually insulates the water
from the burner. I've tried diligently draining the tank a couple of
times a year and that doesn't seem to help. Maybe I should fill it
with vinegar occasionally like I do with my coffee pots? g



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in article znr1100528229k@trad, Mike Rivers at wrote on
11/15/04 6:59 AM:

I've tried diligently draining the tank a couple of
times a year and that doesn't seem to help. Maybe I should fill it
with vinegar occasionally like I do with my coffee pots? g

I live in a place with amazingly high mineral content in the water. It
tastes like a mountain stream, but wreaks havoc with homes like mine which
do not have water softeners.

My gas water heater pops and chunks when it's heating. This is the layer of
mineral deposits breaking away from the bottom and roiling up to the
surface, banging on the inside of the tank. I asked our county gas people
if there was a known fix for this. "Get a new water heater" was the reply.
Apparently there is some way to drain and dig out the crud, but it's really
difficult, time consuming, and messy, and not that effective. A vinegar
wash doesn't get it out - just breaks it up in smaller pieces.

There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

Carlos

in article znr1100528229k@trad, Mike Rivers at wrote on
11/15/04 6:59 AM:

I've tried diligently draining the tank a couple of
times a year and that doesn't seem to help. Maybe I should fill it
with vinegar occasionally like I do with my coffee pots? g

I live in a place with amazingly high mineral content in the water. It
tastes like a mountain stream, but wreaks havoc with homes like mine which
do not have water softeners.

My gas water heater pops and chunks when it's heating. This is the layer of
mineral deposits breaking away from the bottom and roiling up to the
surface, banging on the inside of the tank. I asked our county gas people
if there was a known fix for this. "Get a new water heater" was the reply.
Apparently there is some way to drain and dig out the crud, but it's really
difficult, time consuming, and messy, and not that effective. A vinegar
wash doesn't get it out - just breaks it up in smaller pieces.

There are folks that make electromagentic collars that surround the water
intake pipe and thus make the water softer. This supposedly realigns
something in the minerals' molecular structure which then makes it
impossible for it to stick to anything. As a side benefit this process
claims that it eventually cleans out encrusted water heaters.

Carlos

Water treatments would go a long way, but changing out the anodes would make
a difference, too. But that depends on whether you have electric or gas.
Gas has black pipe running (a electric path to copper waterpipe), but today
it doesn't have to be. Technically you could change out the gas piping for
a flexible plastic and end the problem once and for all (like using optical
to end ground hums). Personally, I just have my gas water heater hooked up
to the water pipe and change the anode connection every couple of years.
The last water heater lasted 18 years. This one's into it's sixth year and
clean as a whistle.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1100528229k@trad...

In article writes:

If you change the anode rods out, they can last an amazingly long time.
This
information seems to have been forgotten sometime in the past 30 years
or so.

I have a gas water heater. I suspect that the failure mode is that
sediment collects on the bottom, which eventually insulates the water
from the burner. I've tried diligently draining the tank a couple of
times a year and that doesn't seem to help. Maybe I should fill it
with vinegar occasionally like I do with my coffee pots? g



--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

Water treatments would go a long way, but changing out the anodes would make
a difference, too. But that depends on whether you have electric or gas.
Gas has black pipe running (a electric path to copper waterpipe), but today
it doesn't have to be. Technically you could change out the gas piping for
a flexible plastic and end the problem once and for all (like using optical
to end ground hums). Personally, I just have my gas water heater hooked up
to the water pipe and change the anode connection every couple of years.
The last water heater lasted 18 years. This one's into it's sixth year and
clean as a whistle.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1100528229k@trad...

In article writes:

If you change the anode rods out, they can last an amazingly long time.
This
information seems to have been forgotten sometime in the past 30 years
or so.

I have a gas water heater. I suspect that the failure mode is that
sediment collects on the bottom, which eventually insulates the water
from the burner. I've tried diligently draining the tank a couple of
times a year and that doesn't seem to help. Maybe I should fill it
with vinegar occasionally like I do with my coffee pots? g



--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

In article writes:

If you change the anode rods out, they can last an amazingly long time. This
information seems to have been forgotten sometime in the past 30 years or so.

I have a gas water heater. I suspect that the failure mode is that
sediment collects on the bottom, which eventually insulates the water
from the burner. I've tried diligently draining the tank a couple of
times a year and that doesn't seem to help. Maybe I should fill it
with vinegar occasionally like I do with my coffee pots? g



--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

Mike Rivers wrote:
In article .net writes:


Hey, you know that trick! I give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat
each day while flipping a load of wash.


17 years on a water heater! I'm impressed. The ones I buy seem to
have cracked the secret of the car battery warranty. As soon as the
warranty period is up, you can count on them going within a couple of
months.

If you change the anode rods out, they can last an amazingly long time. This information seems to have been forgotten sometime in the past 30 years or so.

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give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat each day while
flipping a load of wash. 17 years on a water heater! I'm impressed.
The ones I buy seem to have cracked the secret of the car battery
warranty. As soon as the warranty period is up, you can count on
them going within a couple of months.
HEy that anode rod that's supposed to do the electrolysis bit to save
the tank must actually work with the water you have. BAck where I
used to live you were lucky to get ten years on the tanks. THat
stuff was nasty. GO down to take a morning shower and see bright
orange liquid coming out of the shower head.




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Electric SPider Productions, New Orleans, La.
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On 2004-11-14 said:
writes: Hey, you know that trick! I
give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat each day while
flipping a load of wash. 17 years on a water heater! I'm impressed.
The ones I buy seem to have cracked the secret of the car battery
warranty. As soon as the warranty period is up, you can count on
them going within a couple of months.
HEy that anode rod that's supposed to do the electrolysis bit to save
the tank must actually work with the water you have. BAck where I
used to live you were lucky to get ten years on the tanks. THat
stuff was nasty. GO down to take a morning shower and see bright
orange liquid coming out of the shower head.




Richard Webb,
Electric SPider Productions, New Orleans, La.
REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email

--

In article .net writes:

Hey, you know that trick! I give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat each
day while flipping a load of wash.

17 years on a water heater! I'm impressed. The ones I buy seem to
have cracked the secret of the car battery warranty. As soon as the
warranty period is up, you can count on them going within a couple of
months.

Good thing some of my audio gear didn't come with a 10 year warranty.



--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

/
"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1100436019k@trad...

Take good care of it and say nice things to it.


Hey, you know that trick! I give my 17 year old hot water heater a pat each
day while flipping a load of wash.



Peace,
Ed Bridge
Brooklyn N.Y.
http://www.bridgeclassicalguitars.com

In article .net writes:

I pick up a second hand tascam DA -P1 with
Sony stereo Mic ( I don't use that too much) for $800.00, last year and
it's been my best friend at the little concerts we do . I thought maybe I
was going backwards in buying it .But the tascam dat works well with the
pair of mic's I use.

Take good care of it and say nice things to it. Once it dies, it's
highly unlikely that it will ever be repaired. I have a dead DA-P20,
which is why I'm on a quest for a suitable replacement. I could buy a
Marantz PMD670 but I would only consider that a temporary solution,
and it's too expensive to put on the shelf after a year or two. At
least the DAT had a good 8 year run.





--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo