"Kendall" wrote in message om...
"vas" wrote in message
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:17:01 -0400, vas wrote:


Hello all,

I'm wiring a new studio at school. Have several wall panels with
24-32 connections on each. Need to patch different parts of each
panel into preamps/consoles at different times in different
configurations, thus requiring a bay that would allow switching in
groups. Well, not REQUIRING, but it would make things a HELL of a lot
more convenient than a TT bay. Between all the rooms and all the
gozintas and gozoutas I have at least 19 banks of 8. I have not seen
any commercial products like this, only one custom installation on
Tuchels and pictures of a couple of installs on DB25s with quick
release. The huge Cannons that are used on SSLs are probably overkill
and I'm only familiar with ADAT ELCOs, which require a screwdriver
(these have to be student operated, too complex). The DB25s made the
most sense. In any case, I am stuck. Can anyone suggest a course of
action?

Many thanks,
--Vas

Actually, since I am on the subject, what is everyone's favorite
multicore for permanent installation? 8 to 32 pair can be used in my
application and star-quad is not desirable due to conduit size, price
and relatively quiet environment. Of the three that I've worked with
- belden, mogami, canare - canare was my favorite, but that was
single line only.

Of the brands you mention, I like Mogami. Having said that, I'm liking
Gepco very much these days, especially for an install. Slightly less
flexible than the Mogami, but that is OK in an install, and the cable is
much cheaper (in cost) than Mogami. Not sure where in the country you are,
but if you're in the Los Angeles area, the local Gepco outlet is in Burbank,
very near the I-% freeway, close to Costco. Don't have the number handy,
but ask for Kurt Stein. Oh, and when you go to pick it up, if you go across
Burbank Blvd. and head north you can visit the nearby Krispy Kreme and get a
fresh HOT donut. Yum.

And yes, for single line stuff, I like Canare as well.

Kendall



Thanks again,

--Vas



If it's a permanaent install why would you use multicore? use single
lines.

Belden 9180 is a 26 guage 110 Ohm foil shielded pair. You would be
able to get more than 140 strands of it into a 2" conduit ( just my
guess off the top of my head )

Then make your whips out of Canare L4 type multicore.

Do all your ground lifting in the harnesses that go to your
equipment. Or if you have rolling racks with multi-pins on them ( the
whole rack on one connector ) Lift stuff on the harness inside the
rack.

The Gepco stuff is allright but it can be a pain to solder to
multipins as the jacket peels back really fast. ( I've been soldering
Gepco to DB25s this week, and it's the sane as the Gepco i complained
about the last time i had to solder Gepco , 4 years ago)