I'll really appreciate some suggestions as well as advices regarding
channel strip for recording vocals (with ephasise on voiceovers,
speech/spoken words, etc. - in use for TV/radio commercials,jingles,
dramas; as well for corporate multimedia presentations, training
videos,etc.)

I own a small studio specialised for voiceovers and my main source of
income is my voice like I mentioned above. Presently, I own AT 3035 &
4050, Rode NTK, EV RE20 mics and my recording chain consist of PB 667
DVI,Digi 002,MBox,FMR RNP,Tapco S5. My clients are satisfied with my
work and I'm happy with my equipment but since I earned some mone I
thought it would be smart move to invest in some "voice channel" with
eq, comp,lim, de ess, gate,exp. in order to improve and raise the
quality of my job.

I know it's a "crowded market" in that field andd since I'm not in a
position to test for myself (because dealers here don't have such
equipment on stock) I really need a "helpfull handd" here.
For the sake of conversation let say that the money is not an object (to
the certain level of course).

My candidates are (from less $ to the top): Symetrix 528e, Presonus VPS,
SPL ChannelOne, Focusrite ISA 428 mkII Producer Pack, Millenia STT-1 Origin.

Any thoughts, opinions advices ?

TIA

S

"Sven" wrote in message
...
I'll really appreciate some suggestions as well as advices regarding
channel strip for recording vocals (with ephasise on voiceovers,
speech/spoken words, etc. - in use for TV/radio commercials,jingles,
dramas; as well for corporate multimedia presentations, training
videos,etc.)

I own a small studio specialised for voiceovers and my main source of
income is my voice like I mentioned above. Presently, I own AT 3035 &
4050, Rode NTK, EV RE20 mics and my recording chain consist of PB 667
DVI,Digi 002,MBox,FMR RNP,Tapco S5. My clients are satisfied with my
work and I'm happy with my equipment but since I earned some mone I
thought it would be smart move to invest in some "voice channel" with
eq, comp,lim, de ess, gate,exp. in order to improve and raise the
quality of my job.

I know it's a "crowded market" in that field andd since I'm not in a
position to test for myself (because dealers here don't have such
equipment on stock) I really need a "helpfull handd" here.
For the sake of conversation let say that the money is not an object (to
the certain level of course).

My candidates are (from less $ to the top): Symetrix 528e, Presonus VPS,
SPL ChannelOne, Focusrite ISA 428 mkII Producer Pack, Millenia STT-1
Origin.

Any thoughts, opinions advices ?

TIA

S
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hey Sven,

I am not sure what you're saying. Sounds like you are earning income from
selling recordings on which you have not used compression or eq?

Wow, congratulations!

Compression, eq and delay equipment/software is what I would choose first,
plus an L1 Limiter if you ever have to work with low signals.

Look around at www.musicbooksplus.com

You might find something there to help.

I assume you know this:
_____________________________________
EQ Basics

12K air

8-10 K Upper Mids, Edge

5-7 K Articulation Zone

1.6-4K Hurtin' Zone

500-1.6 Mids

200-450 Lower Mid, Warmth, Mud Zone, only one lives here
commonly cut a lot

200 Moo Zone

100 Pop Zone, Warmth

50 Thud Zone
______________________________________

-bg-
www.thelittlecanadaheadphoneband.ca
www.lchb.ca

"Sven" wrote in message
...
I'll really appreciate some suggestions as well as advices regarding
channel strip for recording vocals (with ephasise on voiceovers,
speech/spoken words, etc. - in use for TV/radio commercials,jingles,
dramas; as well for corporate multimedia presentations, training
videos,etc.)

I own a small studio specialised for voiceovers and my main source of
income is my voice like I mentioned above. Presently, I own AT 3035 &
4050, Rode NTK, EV RE20 mics and my recording chain consist of PB 667
DVI,Digi 002,MBox,FMR RNP,Tapco S5. My clients are satisfied with my
work and I'm happy with my equipment but since I earned some mone I
thought it would be smart move to invest in some "voice channel" with
eq, comp,lim, de ess, gate,exp. in order to improve and raise the
quality of my job.

I know it's a "crowded market" in that field andd since I'm not in a
position to test for myself (because dealers here don't have such
equipment on stock) I really need a "helpfull handd" here.
For the sake of conversation let say that the money is not an object (to
the certain level of course).

My candidates are (from less $ to the top): Symetrix 528e, Presonus VPS,
SPL ChannelOne, Focusrite ISA 428 mkII Producer Pack, Millenia STT-1
Origin.

Any thoughts, opinions advices ?

TIA

S
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hey Sven,

I am not sure what you're saying. Sounds like you are earning income from
selling recordings on which you have not used compression or eq?

Wow, congratulations!

Compression, eq and delay equipment/software is what I would choose first,
plus an L1 Limiter if you ever have to work with low signals.

Look around at www.musicbooksplus.com

You might find something there to help.

I assume you know this:
_____________________________________
EQ Basics

12K air

8-10 K Upper Mids, Edge

5-7 K Articulation Zone

1.6-4K Hurtin' Zone

500-1.6 Mids

200-450 Lower Mid, Warmth, Mud Zone, only one lives here
commonly cut a lot

200 Moo Zone

100 Pop Zone, Warmth

50 Thud Zone
______________________________________

-bg-
www.thelittlecanadaheadphoneband.ca
www.lchb.ca

I am not sure what you're saying. Sounds like you are earning income from
selling recordings on which you have not used compression or eq?

Wow, congratulations!

100 Pop Zone, Warmth

You now the song "... Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood ..."
:-) Just kidding

Seriously, you got me wrong. I know the procedure and rules of the EQ &
comping.

What I need is help with choosing the "right" hardware channel strip
(more or less specifically tailored for treating voice - thats from the
name "voice channel" coming from).

Anyway, thank you for your good will to help me.

All the best,

Sven

I am not sure what you're saying. Sounds like you are earning income from
selling recordings on which you have not used compression or eq?

Wow, congratulations!

100 Pop Zone, Warmth

You now the song "... Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood ..."
:-) Just kidding

Seriously, you got me wrong. I know the procedure and rules of the EQ &
comping.

What I need is help with choosing the "right" hardware channel strip
(more or less specifically tailored for treating voice - thats from the
name "voice channel" coming from).

Anyway, thank you for your good will to help me.

All the best,

Sven

Sven,

I do voiceovers for a living myself. The Symetrix 528 is standard issue in
lots of VO studios and ISDN configurations. I like it and use it because
it's very transparent.

Bill

Sven,

I do voiceovers for a living myself. The Symetrix 528 is standard issue in
lots of VO studios and ISDN configurations. I like it and use it because
it's very transparent.

Bill

Another thumbs up for the 528E.
Petty standard issue for most commercial radio stations and a great
tool if not abused.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:59:46 GMT, Bill wrote:

Sven,

I do voiceovers for a living myself. The Symetrix 528 is standard issue in
lots of VO studios and ISDN configurations. I like it and use it because
it's very transparent.

Bill

Mike Cleaver Broadcast Services
Voice-overs, Newscaster, Engineering and Consulting
Vancouver, BC, Canada

Another thumbs up for the 528E.
Petty standard issue for most commercial radio stations and a great
tool if not abused.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:59:46 GMT, Bill wrote:

Sven,

I do voiceovers for a living myself. The Symetrix 528 is standard issue in
lots of VO studios and ISDN configurations. I like it and use it because
it's very transparent.

Bill

Mike Cleaver Broadcast Services
Voice-overs, Newscaster, Engineering and Consulting
Vancouver, BC, Canada

Mike Cleaver wrote in message . ..
Another thumbs up for the 528E.
Petty standard issue for most commercial radio stations and a great
tool if not abused.



Hmm...unfortunately, if the 528E *does* get abused, they can sound
kinda nasty. Whereas I've tried a few times to abuse an STT-1 and it
just keeps on smiling & putting out sweet sweet sounds.

Guess that's why it costs 6 times as much as the Symmetrix.

Mike Cleaver wrote in message . ..
Another thumbs up for the 528E.
Petty standard issue for most commercial radio stations and a great
tool if not abused.



Hmm...unfortunately, if the 528E *does* get abused, they can sound
kinda nasty. Whereas I've tried a few times to abuse an STT-1 and it
just keeps on smiling & putting out sweet sweet sounds.

Guess that's why it costs 6 times as much as the Symmetrix.

Lorin David Schultz wrote:

I, on the other hand, freakin' HATE that thing! The preamp is way too
noisy for anything but really high output mics. That means you can put
away your RE20 and SM7. I found the EQ does more damage than good
(think Mackie mixer and you'll get an idea what I mean). The compressor
is usable, but even that's not as good as Symetrix' own standalone
compressors.

I played guitar into one of those at an overdub session elsewhere and
the sound was not thrilling.

Sven, get a preamp you like (Great River Neve style maybe?), a good
compressor/limiter (Aphex, BSS, FMR and UA are good candidates in that
arena) and a decent EQ (Speck ASC). You'll get better sound, more
flexibility and the ability to substitute one function without affecting
the others.

Great plan, and if budget intrudes, an FMR RNP with an FMR RNC plus the
Speck ASC is also a good chain.

--
ha

Lorin David Schultz wrote:

I, on the other hand, freakin' HATE that thing! The preamp is way too
noisy for anything but really high output mics. That means you can put
away your RE20 and SM7. I found the EQ does more damage than good
(think Mackie mixer and you'll get an idea what I mean). The compressor
is usable, but even that's not as good as Symetrix' own standalone
compressors.

I played guitar into one of those at an overdub session elsewhere and
the sound was not thrilling.

Sven, get a preamp you like (Great River Neve style maybe?), a good
compressor/limiter (Aphex, BSS, FMR and UA are good candidates in that
arena) and a decent EQ (Speck ASC). You'll get better sound, more
flexibility and the ability to substitute one function without affecting
the others.

Great plan, and if budget intrudes, an FMR RNP with an FMR RNC plus the
Speck ASC is also a good chain.

--
ha

Get one which allows you to record the unprocessed signal along with the
processed one.... you may decide to change the processing after the Voice
Over talent leaves.... having an unprocessed version gives you more options.

Alternately buy a good Microphone Preamp and a separate box for processors
or use software....

Rgds:
Eric


"Buster Mudd" wrote in message
om...
Mike Cleaver wrote in message
. ..
Another thumbs up for the 528E.
Petty standard issue for most commercial radio stations and a great
tool if not abused.



Hmm...unfortunately, if the 528E *does* get abused, they can sound
kinda nasty. Whereas I've tried a few times to abuse an STT-1 and it
just keeps on smiling & putting out sweet sweet sounds.

Guess that's why it costs 6 times as much as the Symmetrix.

Get one which allows you to record the unprocessed signal along with the
processed one.... you may decide to change the processing after the Voice
Over talent leaves.... having an unprocessed version gives you more options.

Alternately buy a good Microphone Preamp and a separate box for processors
or use software....

Rgds:
Eric


"Buster Mudd" wrote in message
om...
Mike Cleaver wrote in message
. ..
Another thumbs up for the 528E.
Petty standard issue for most commercial radio stations and a great
tool if not abused.



Hmm...unfortunately, if the 528E *does* get abused, they can sound
kinda nasty. Whereas I've tried a few times to abuse an STT-1 and it
just keeps on smiling & putting out sweet sweet sounds.

Guess that's why it costs 6 times as much as the Symmetrix.

Thank you guys for your responding, I really appreciate your sugestions

This "buying separately" route is probably smarter thing to do but I
must admit that Focusrite ISA 430 Producer Pack is very sweet.

Altough,it's a expensive beast but like Englishmen would say: "I'm not
reach enough to buy cheap stuff", and I'll have channel strip for the
rest of my life with all functions which I need for high quality voice
recording (and more).

Anyway thanks everybody for helping me.

Sven