In article ,
Pooh Bear wrote:
Why on earth would anyone actually *want* VU ballistics ? Possibly the
most meaningless measue of audio level available.

The ballistics simply relate to the inherent limitations of moving coil
meters ! Why be so limited ?

It's an experience thing. I grew up looking at mixes through VU meters
and my head is calibrated to them. It has little to do with getting
proper levels to tape or anything like that (true peak reading meters
are much better IMHO) but it's about evaluating loudness and mix element
balance for me. I think every proper monitor controller should have
some VU meters on it with zero VU calibrated to something meaningful.

Regards,

Monte McGuire

Free PSP Vintage Meter from www.pspaudioware.com should do the trick.

--
Doug Osborne

my day job: http://www.martinsound.com/

"Monte McGuire" wrote in message
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In article ,
Pooh Bear wrote:
Why on earth would anyone actually *want* VU ballistics ? Possibly the
most meaningless measue of audio level available.

The ballistics simply relate to the inherent limitations of moving coil
meters ! Why be so limited ?

It's an experience thing. I grew up looking at mixes through VU meters
and my head is calibrated to them. It has little to do with getting
proper levels to tape or anything like that (true peak reading meters
are much better IMHO) but it's about evaluating loudness and mix element
balance for me. I think every proper monitor controller should have
some VU meters on it with zero VU calibrated to something meaningful.

Regards,

Monte McGuire

Free PSP Vintage Meter from www.pspaudioware.com should do the trick.

--
Doug Osborne

my day job: http://www.martinsound.com/

"Monte McGuire" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Pooh Bear wrote:
Why on earth would anyone actually *want* VU ballistics ? Possibly the
most meaningless measue of audio level available.

The ballistics simply relate to the inherent limitations of moving coil
meters ! Why be so limited ?

It's an experience thing. I grew up looking at mixes through VU meters
and my head is calibrated to them. It has little to do with getting
proper levels to tape or anything like that (true peak reading meters
are much better IMHO) but it's about evaluating loudness and mix element
balance for me. I think every proper monitor controller should have
some VU meters on it with zero VU calibrated to something meaningful.

Regards,

Monte McGuire

Michael Putrino wrote:

Hi all,

I wish Audition had a nice set of VU meters like that offered by
vb-audio...one with real VU balistics. I would purchase the one from
vb-audio, but I'm not sure I want to open a Direct-X plug-in every
time I want to VU-meter my work.

Why do you want metering that displays the signal +6/-20 dB? - that is
about as good as VU meters are! - they can be useful, but only if you
know how they will mis-display what type of signal.

For instance, if I'm applying a limiter in the editor window, and
previewing it, I want to meter it as well to see the affects on the
VU.

As I read you what you really seem to require is a gain reduction
indication?

I may just need to buy it anyway. Open limiter, apply it, meter it,
un-do limiter, re-do limiter with different settings, meter it, etc...
Very inefficient.

Does anyone know of another solution? Non-hardware....

Listening for whether the sound of the limiting is appropiate or not?

Mike Putrino

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* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
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Michael Putrino wrote:

Hi all,

I wish Audition had a nice set of VU meters like that offered by
vb-audio...one with real VU balistics. I would purchase the one from
vb-audio, but I'm not sure I want to open a Direct-X plug-in every
time I want to VU-meter my work.

Why do you want metering that displays the signal +6/-20 dB? - that is
about as good as VU meters are! - they can be useful, but only if you
know how they will mis-display what type of signal.

For instance, if I'm applying a limiter in the editor window, and
previewing it, I want to meter it as well to see the affects on the
VU.

As I read you what you really seem to require is a gain reduction
indication?

I may just need to buy it anyway. Open limiter, apply it, meter it,
un-do limiter, re-do limiter with different settings, meter it, etc...
Very inefficient.

Does anyone know of another solution? Non-hardware....

Listening for whether the sound of the limiting is appropiate or not?

Mike Putrino

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* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
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