Hi everyone. I need to know what happens if I send a digital signal
(adat) at 24bit to a 16 bit machine. I just bought a behringer
ada8000 preamp/converter which works at 24bit and I want to use it
with a fostex d160 HD recorder which only works at 16bit.
thanks

"espworks" wrote in message
om

Hi everyone. I need to know what happens if I send a digital signal
(adat) at 24bit to a 16 bit machine. I just bought a behringer
ada8000 preamp/converter which works at 24bit and I want to use it
with a fostex d160 HD recorder which only works at 16bit.
thanks

Hopefully, the 24 bit signal is converted to 16 bits with proper dithering.
In specific cases, this can be determined experimentally. Or, if you are
willing to take a risk - you can ask the vendor.

"espworks" wrote in message
om

Hi everyone. I need to know what happens if I send a digital signal
(adat) at 24bit to a 16 bit machine. I just bought a behringer
ada8000 preamp/converter which works at 24bit and I want to use it
with a fostex d160 HD recorder which only works at 16bit.
thanks

Hopefully, the 24 bit signal is converted to 16 bits with proper dithering.
In specific cases, this can be determined experimentally. Or, if you are
willing to take a risk - you can ask the vendor.

In article writes:

I just bought a behringer
ada8000 preamp/converter which works at 24bit and I want to use it
with a fostex d160 HD recorder which only works at 16bit.

In technical terms, the audio data will be truncated at the 16th bit.
In practice, it will still sound pretty good. It might sound a little
better under exactly the same circumstances if you had a 24-bit
recorder, but that's something you can look forward to in the future
if you find the need.

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

In article writes:

I just bought a behringer
ada8000 preamp/converter which works at 24bit and I want to use it
with a fostex d160 HD recorder which only works at 16bit.

In technical terms, the audio data will be truncated at the 16th bit.
In practice, it will still sound pretty good. It might sound a little
better under exactly the same circumstances if you had a 24-bit
recorder, but that's something you can look forward to in the future
if you find the need.

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

In article ,
espworks wrote:
Hi everyone. I need to know what happens if I send a digital signal
(adat) at 24bit to a 16 bit machine. I just bought a behringer
ada8000 preamp/converter which works at 24bit and I want to use it
with a fostex d160 HD recorder which only works at 16bit.
thanks

That depends entirely on the receiving device. Some will not lock up.
Some will truncate. Some allow you to select proper dither down to 16 bit.
Check the manual on your D160 and see what the input settings allow.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

In article ,
espworks wrote:
Hi everyone. I need to know what happens if I send a digital signal
(adat) at 24bit to a 16 bit machine. I just bought a behringer
ada8000 preamp/converter which works at 24bit and I want to use it
with a fostex d160 HD recorder which only works at 16bit.
thanks

That depends entirely on the receiving device. Some will not lock up.
Some will truncate. Some allow you to select proper dither down to 16 bit.
Check the manual on your D160 and see what the input settings allow.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

This weekend (Oct 1 and 2), WKSU FM here is broadcasting my recordings
of last year's Kent State Folk Festival. While WKSU and its repeaters
only cover about a third of the state of Ohio, the material will also be
webcast for those outside that area. Obviously, RealAudio isn't going
to provide the best fidelity, but for those interested in this music, it
may be worthwhile to listen in.

The 2003 festival featured Maura O'Connell, Ralph Stanley and the Clinch
Mountain Boys, Robinella and the CC String Band, and Nickel Creek. The
longer shows (Maura and Nickel Creek) will be spread across two
evenings, Friday and Saturday nights.

In addition to last year's festival, a number of recordings will be
included from prior festivals, typically a song or two each from artists
like Tim O'Brien, the Nashville Mandolin Ensemble, Judy Collins, and
many more.

You can visit the following web pages for the exact schedule:

http://wksu.org/folk/playlists/20041001.html

http://wksu.org/folk/playlists/20041002.html

In addition to the 2003 festival, I recorded, mixed, and edited all of
the material from 2001 and 2002: Judy Collins, Tim O'Brien, Kelly Joe
Phelps, NME, Eric Bogle, Asylum Street Spankers, Ruthie Foster, Ethel
Caffie Austin, and Pete Sutherland. The older festival recordings are
not my work, nor are the handful of studio recordings that are included
in these two playlists.

I've mentioned this festival broadcast here on RAP in prior years, but
I've never gotten any particular response, so I don't know whether
anyone got the chance to listen (or even whether or not anyone is
remotely interested in listening g). I'm hoping that it may be of
interest to a few of you.

I know that several here have commented on my recording of the Nashville
Mandolin Ensemble that appears on RAP5, so this is a chance to hear a
couple of other tracks from that performance (compositions by the Allman
Brothers and the Beatles, no less!), along with a lot of other great
music.

The Nickel Creek set has some great moments. Their version of "The Fox"
(it'll be the third song on their part of Friday's broadcast) is just
killer - including a cover of David Garza's "Drone" and some great clog
dancing by bassist Mark Schatz. They also do a number of new songs,
some of which will be on their next album to come out in the spring.
And they do a great job of the Beatles "Taxman" later in the Saturday
portion of the show.

The Robinella set turned out very nice as well. Her voice just seemed
to be a perfect match for the AT4054 that we used to record her. In
fact, her set was recorded entirely with AT mics.

The Nickel Creek set, on the other hand, was recorded entirely with
Shure mics. The vocals were a Beta87 and two SM86s.

The Ralph Stanley set was all AT as well. Maura O'Connell used SM58s
for vocals, but all AT mics for the instruments.

If anyone has any questions on the technical details or anything else
for that matter, I'd be glad to try to answer them. Otherwise, just
enjoy the music!

This weekend (Oct 1 and 2), WKSU FM here is broadcasting my recordings
of last year's Kent State Folk Festival. While WKSU and its repeaters
only cover about a third of the state of Ohio, the material will also be
webcast for those outside that area. Obviously, RealAudio isn't going
to provide the best fidelity, but for those interested in this music, it
may be worthwhile to listen in.

The 2003 festival featured Maura O'Connell, Ralph Stanley and the Clinch
Mountain Boys, Robinella and the CC String Band, and Nickel Creek. The
longer shows (Maura and Nickel Creek) will be spread across two
evenings, Friday and Saturday nights.

In addition to last year's festival, a number of recordings will be
included from prior festivals, typically a song or two each from artists
like Tim O'Brien, the Nashville Mandolin Ensemble, Judy Collins, and
many more.

You can visit the following web pages for the exact schedule:

http://wksu.org/folk/playlists/20041001.html

http://wksu.org/folk/playlists/20041002.html

In addition to the 2003 festival, I recorded, mixed, and edited all of
the material from 2001 and 2002: Judy Collins, Tim O'Brien, Kelly Joe
Phelps, NME, Eric Bogle, Asylum Street Spankers, Ruthie Foster, Ethel
Caffie Austin, and Pete Sutherland. The older festival recordings are
not my work, nor are the handful of studio recordings that are included
in these two playlists.

I've mentioned this festival broadcast here on RAP in prior years, but
I've never gotten any particular response, so I don't know whether
anyone got the chance to listen (or even whether or not anyone is
remotely interested in listening g). I'm hoping that it may be of
interest to a few of you.

I know that several here have commented on my recording of the Nashville
Mandolin Ensemble that appears on RAP5, so this is a chance to hear a
couple of other tracks from that performance (compositions by the Allman
Brothers and the Beatles, no less!), along with a lot of other great
music.

The Nickel Creek set has some great moments. Their version of "The Fox"
(it'll be the third song on their part of Friday's broadcast) is just
killer - including a cover of David Garza's "Drone" and some great clog
dancing by bassist Mark Schatz. They also do a number of new songs,
some of which will be on their next album to come out in the spring.
And they do a great job of the Beatles "Taxman" later in the Saturday
portion of the show.

The Robinella set turned out very nice as well. Her voice just seemed
to be a perfect match for the AT4054 that we used to record her. In
fact, her set was recorded entirely with AT mics.

The Nickel Creek set, on the other hand, was recorded entirely with
Shure mics. The vocals were a Beta87 and two SM86s.

The Ralph Stanley set was all AT as well. Maura O'Connell used SM58s
for vocals, but all AT mics for the instruments.

If anyone has any questions on the technical details or anything else
for that matter, I'd be glad to try to answer them. Otherwise, just
enjoy the music!

Jim Gilliland wrote:


I've mentioned this festival broadcast here on RAP in prior years, but
I've never gotten any particular response, so I don't know whether
anyone got the chance to listen (or even whether or not anyone is
remotely interested in listening g). I'm hoping that it may be of
interest to a few of you.


Definitely. Last year I couldn't find yours, but I did find a great new
radio station, and that led me to Karen Savoca, a great independent artist.

I will, of course, look again this year.

Jim Gilliland wrote:


I've mentioned this festival broadcast here on RAP in prior years, but
I've never gotten any particular response, so I don't know whether
anyone got the chance to listen (or even whether or not anyone is
remotely interested in listening g). I'm hoping that it may be of
interest to a few of you.


Definitely. Last year I couldn't find yours, but I did find a great new
radio station, and that led me to Karen Savoca, a great independent artist.

I will, of course, look again this year.

S O'Neill wrote:
Jim Gilliland wrote:

I've mentioned this festival broadcast here on RAP in prior years, but
I've never gotten any particular response, so I don't know whether
anyone got the chance to listen (or even whether or not anyone is
remotely interested in listening g). I'm hoping that it may be of
interest to a few of you.

Definitely. Last year I couldn't find yours, but I did find a great new
radio station, and that led me to Karen Savoca, a great independent artist.

Karen is a wonderful artist. She works often with Greg Brown, and they
have a live album together ("Live at the Black Sheep") with Garnet
Rogers and Pete Heitzman that is very good. It's a nice informal
performance. She's appeared here several times.

I will, of course, look again this year.

http://wksu.org/listen/ will be the site for the live feed (and I note
that it is available in several formats). And I can see from this page:
- http://wksu.org/folk/ - that they also carry an archive of older
shows. So it may be possible to listen to these shows "on demand" at
some point after they've originally aired. I'll try to keep an eye on that.

Incidentally, WKSU is not "my" station. I do a weekly show on WRUW,
which is a 15,000 watt community station in Cleveland. WKSU in Kent
contacts me to record their annual folk fest, but I am not otherwise
associated with them (well, other than being friends with a bunch of the
staff g).

This year, btw, I'll be recording Sam Bush, Karla Bonoff, Jesse
Winchester, and (!) Doc Watson, among others. But we'll talk more about
that when it airs next fall. (They use each year's festival broadcast
to promote the festival for the current year, which is why it tends to
be delayed for ten months or so. Gives me plenty of time to get the
work done g.)

S O'Neill wrote:
Jim Gilliland wrote:

I've mentioned this festival broadcast here on RAP in prior years, but
I've never gotten any particular response, so I don't know whether
anyone got the chance to listen (or even whether or not anyone is
remotely interested in listening g). I'm hoping that it may be of
interest to a few of you.

Definitely. Last year I couldn't find yours, but I did find a great new
radio station, and that led me to Karen Savoca, a great independent artist.

Karen is a wonderful artist. She works often with Greg Brown, and they
have a live album together ("Live at the Black Sheep") with Garnet
Rogers and Pete Heitzman that is very good. It's a nice informal
performance. She's appeared here several times.

I will, of course, look again this year.

http://wksu.org/listen/ will be the site for the live feed (and I note
that it is available in several formats). And I can see from this page:
- http://wksu.org/folk/ - that they also carry an archive of older
shows. So it may be possible to listen to these shows "on demand" at
some point after they've originally aired. I'll try to keep an eye on that.

Incidentally, WKSU is not "my" station. I do a weekly show on WRUW,
which is a 15,000 watt community station in Cleveland. WKSU in Kent
contacts me to record their annual folk fest, but I am not otherwise
associated with them (well, other than being friends with a bunch of the
staff g).

This year, btw, I'll be recording Sam Bush, Karla Bonoff, Jesse
Winchester, and (!) Doc Watson, among others. But we'll talk more about
that when it airs next fall. (They use each year's festival broadcast
to promote the festival for the current year, which is why it tends to
be delayed for ten months or so. Gives me plenty of time to get the
work done g.)

At the risk of being annoying and/or obnoxious, I'll take this
opportunity to remind those interested that the first evening of this
broadcast/webcast is now in progress..... Thanks for allowing this
brief interruption.

Jim Gilliland wrote:
This weekend (Oct 1 and 2), WKSU FM here is broadcasting my recordings
of last year's Kent State Folk Festival. While WKSU and its repeaters
only cover about a third of the state of Ohio, the material will also be
webcast for those outside that area. Obviously, RealAudio isn't going
to provide the best fidelity, but for those interested in this music, it
may be worthwhile to listen in.

The 2003 festival featured Maura O'Connell, Ralph Stanley and the Clinch
Mountain Boys, Robinella and the CC String Band, and Nickel Creek. The
longer shows (Maura and Nickel Creek) will be spread across two
evenings, Friday and Saturday nights.

In addition to last year's festival, a number of recordings will be
included from prior festivals, typically a song or two each from artists
like Tim O'Brien, the Nashville Mandolin Ensemble, Judy Collins, and
many more.

You can visit the following web pages for the exact schedule:

http://wksu.org/folk/playlists/20041001.html

http://wksu.org/folk/playlists/20041002.html

In addition to the 2003 festival, I recorded, mixed, and edited all of
the material from 2001 and 2002: Judy Collins, Tim O'Brien, Kelly Joe
Phelps, NME, Eric Bogle, Asylum Street Spankers, Ruthie Foster, Ethel
Caffie Austin, and Pete Sutherland. The older festival recordings are
not my work, nor are the handful of studio recordings that are included
in these two playlists.

I've mentioned this festival broadcast here on RAP in prior years, but
I've never gotten any particular response, so I don't know whether
anyone got the chance to listen (or even whether or not anyone is
remotely interested in listening g). I'm hoping that it may be of
interest to a few of you.

I know that several here have commented on my recording of the Nashville
Mandolin Ensemble that appears on RAP5, so this is a chance to hear a
couple of other tracks from that performance (compositions by the Allman
Brothers and the Beatles, no less!), along with a lot of other great music.

The Nickel Creek set has some great moments. Their version of "The Fox"
(it'll be the third song on their part of Friday's broadcast) is just
killer - including a cover of David Garza's "Drone" and some great clog
dancing by bassist Mark Schatz. They also do a number of new songs,
some of which will be on their next album to come out in the spring. And
they do a great job of the Beatles "Taxman" later in the Saturday
portion of the show.

The Robinella set turned out very nice as well. Her voice just seemed
to be a perfect match for the AT4054 that we used to record her. In
fact, her set was recorded entirely with AT mics.

The Nickel Creek set, on the other hand, was recorded entirely with
Shure mics. The vocals were a Beta87 and two SM86s.

The Ralph Stanley set was all AT as well. Maura O'Connell used SM58s
for vocals, but all AT mics for the instruments.

If anyone has any questions on the technical details or anything else
for that matter, I'd be glad to try to answer them. Otherwise, just
enjoy the music!

At the risk of being annoying and/or obnoxious, I'll take this
opportunity to remind those interested that the first evening of this
broadcast/webcast is now in progress..... Thanks for allowing this
brief interruption.

Jim Gilliland wrote:
This weekend (Oct 1 and 2), WKSU FM here is broadcasting my recordings
of last year's Kent State Folk Festival. While WKSU and its repeaters
only cover about a third of the state of Ohio, the material will also be
webcast for those outside that area. Obviously, RealAudio isn't going
to provide the best fidelity, but for those interested in this music, it
may be worthwhile to listen in.

The 2003 festival featured Maura O'Connell, Ralph Stanley and the Clinch
Mountain Boys, Robinella and the CC String Band, and Nickel Creek. The
longer shows (Maura and Nickel Creek) will be spread across two
evenings, Friday and Saturday nights.

In addition to last year's festival, a number of recordings will be
included from prior festivals, typically a song or two each from artists
like Tim O'Brien, the Nashville Mandolin Ensemble, Judy Collins, and
many more.

You can visit the following web pages for the exact schedule:

http://wksu.org/folk/playlists/20041001.html

http://wksu.org/folk/playlists/20041002.html

In addition to the 2003 festival, I recorded, mixed, and edited all of
the material from 2001 and 2002: Judy Collins, Tim O'Brien, Kelly Joe
Phelps, NME, Eric Bogle, Asylum Street Spankers, Ruthie Foster, Ethel
Caffie Austin, and Pete Sutherland. The older festival recordings are
not my work, nor are the handful of studio recordings that are included
in these two playlists.

I've mentioned this festival broadcast here on RAP in prior years, but
I've never gotten any particular response, so I don't know whether
anyone got the chance to listen (or even whether or not anyone is
remotely interested in listening g). I'm hoping that it may be of
interest to a few of you.

I know that several here have commented on my recording of the Nashville
Mandolin Ensemble that appears on RAP5, so this is a chance to hear a
couple of other tracks from that performance (compositions by the Allman
Brothers and the Beatles, no less!), along with a lot of other great music.

The Nickel Creek set has some great moments. Their version of "The Fox"
(it'll be the third song on their part of Friday's broadcast) is just
killer - including a cover of David Garza's "Drone" and some great clog
dancing by bassist Mark Schatz. They also do a number of new songs,
some of which will be on their next album to come out in the spring. And
they do a great job of the Beatles "Taxman" later in the Saturday
portion of the show.

The Robinella set turned out very nice as well. Her voice just seemed
to be a perfect match for the AT4054 that we used to record her. In
fact, her set was recorded entirely with AT mics.

The Nickel Creek set, on the other hand, was recorded entirely with
Shure mics. The vocals were a Beta87 and two SM86s.

The Ralph Stanley set was all AT as well. Maura O'Connell used SM58s
for vocals, but all AT mics for the instruments.

If anyone has any questions on the technical details or anything else
for that matter, I'd be glad to try to answer them. Otherwise, just
enjoy the music!