In article ,
(Richard Kuschel) wrote:

Willie K.Yee, M.D. wkyeeATbestwebDOTnet wrote:
On 22 Sep 2004 07:20:45 -0400, (Mike Rivers)
wrote:

The
"discussion" that you seem to be fretting about is to tell you that
you won't be successful if you use a die.


Wouldn't a die work if you hack sawed off the end of the stand with
the messed up threads, and cut the threads on the clean end of the
stand, now 1/2 " or so shorter?

No, because they are made with rolled threads, not cut ones. The threads
extend out past the edge of the pipe, rather than being cut into the pipe.
Rolled threads are much weaker than cut ones too, and once they are lost
there's not much you can do. It's a lot faster and cheaper to make them,
though.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."




I just checked my Atlas stands. The diameter of the threaded portion is less
than that of the tubing.

I have used dies on the Atlas foor years without complication.


seems simplier(and most likely cheaper unless you do this "alot") to
just get replacment parts and be done with it
George

In article ,
(Richard Kuschel) wrote:

Willie K.Yee, M.D. wkyeeATbestwebDOTnet wrote:
On 22 Sep 2004 07:20:45 -0400, (Mike Rivers)
wrote:

The
"discussion" that you seem to be fretting about is to tell you that
you won't be successful if you use a die.


Wouldn't a die work if you hack sawed off the end of the stand with
the messed up threads, and cut the threads on the clean end of the
stand, now 1/2 " or so shorter?

No, because they are made with rolled threads, not cut ones. The threads
extend out past the edge of the pipe, rather than being cut into the pipe.
Rolled threads are much weaker than cut ones too, and once they are lost
there's not much you can do. It's a lot faster and cheaper to make them,
though.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."




I just checked my Atlas stands. The diameter of the threaded portion is less
than that of the tubing.

I have used dies on the Atlas foor years without complication.


seems simplier(and most likely cheaper unless you do this "alot") to
just get replacment parts and be done with it
George

Greg Taylor wrote:

That makes sense with stands coming from outside the States. They are
manufactured to metric standards, then adapted for the US (that pinned
insert at the top). I found that out when I tried to mate an Atlas
stand to an Ultimate base (the ones that stack). Obviously rethreading
will only work on stands made in the US with the actual 5/8" tube.

I think you'll find that the stands with pinned inserts are also made the
same way with 'European' - lol - 3/8" threads.


Graham

Greg Taylor wrote:

That makes sense with stands coming from outside the States. They are
manufactured to metric standards, then adapted for the US (that pinned
insert at the top). I found that out when I tried to mate an Atlas
stand to an Ultimate base (the ones that stack). Obviously rethreading
will only work on stands made in the US with the actual 5/8" tube.

I think you'll find that the stands with pinned inserts are also made the
same way with 'European' - lol - 3/8" threads.


Graham

Greg Taylor wrote:

That makes sense with stands coming from outside the States. They are
manufactured to metric standards, then adapted for the US (that pinned
insert at the top). I found that out when I tried to mate an Atlas
stand to an Ultimate base (the ones that stack). Obviously rethreading
will only work on stands made in the US with the actual 5/8" tube.

I think you'll find that the stands with pinned inserts are also made the
same way with 'European' - lol - 3/8" threads.


Graham

Scott Dorsey wrote:

Willie K.Yee, M.D. wkyeeATbestwebDOTnet wrote:
On 22 Sep 2004 07:20:45 -0400, (Mike Rivers)
wrote:

The
"discussion" that you seem to be fretting about is to tell you that
you won't be successful if you use a die.


Wouldn't a die work if you hack sawed off the end of the stand with
the messed up threads, and cut the threads on the clean end of the
stand, now 1/2 " or so shorter?

No, because they are made with rolled threads, not cut ones. The threads
extend out past the edge of the pipe, rather than being cut into the pipe.
Rolled threads are much weaker than cut ones too, and once they are lost
there's not much you can do. It's a lot faster and cheaper to make them,
though.

This is the advantage of the 3/8" thread. It's so deep that it couldn't be
rolled anyway. I've never seen a tube cut with a 3/8" thread also since the
cut would be too deep for a tube. The deep thread also makes it more durable
overall.


Graham

Scott Dorsey wrote:

Willie K.Yee, M.D. wkyeeATbestwebDOTnet wrote:
On 22 Sep 2004 07:20:45 -0400, (Mike Rivers)
wrote:

The
"discussion" that you seem to be fretting about is to tell you that
you won't be successful if you use a die.


Wouldn't a die work if you hack sawed off the end of the stand with
the messed up threads, and cut the threads on the clean end of the
stand, now 1/2 " or so shorter?

No, because they are made with rolled threads, not cut ones. The threads
extend out past the edge of the pipe, rather than being cut into the pipe.
Rolled threads are much weaker than cut ones too, and once they are lost
there's not much you can do. It's a lot faster and cheaper to make them,
though.

This is the advantage of the 3/8" thread. It's so deep that it couldn't be
rolled anyway. I've never seen a tube cut with a 3/8" thread also since the
cut would be too deep for a tube. The deep thread also makes it more durable
overall.


Graham

Scott Dorsey wrote:

Willie K.Yee, M.D. wkyeeATbestwebDOTnet wrote:
On 22 Sep 2004 07:20:45 -0400, (Mike Rivers)
wrote:

The
"discussion" that you seem to be fretting about is to tell you that
you won't be successful if you use a die.


Wouldn't a die work if you hack sawed off the end of the stand with
the messed up threads, and cut the threads on the clean end of the
stand, now 1/2 " or so shorter?

No, because they are made with rolled threads, not cut ones. The threads
extend out past the edge of the pipe, rather than being cut into the pipe.
Rolled threads are much weaker than cut ones too, and once they are lost
there's not much you can do. It's a lot faster and cheaper to make them,
though.

This is the advantage of the 3/8" thread. It's so deep that it couldn't be
rolled anyway. I've never seen a tube cut with a 3/8" thread also since the
cut would be too deep for a tube. The deep thread also makes it more durable
overall.


Graham

George wrote:

seems simplier(and most likely cheaper unless you do this "alot") to
just get replacment parts and be done with it

Now that Black Audio devices is gone, getting replacement parts for the
Atlas stands is no longer so easy. In many cases, you have to buy more
than just the part that is broken, and often it is cheaper to buy a new stand.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

George wrote:

seems simplier(and most likely cheaper unless you do this "alot") to
just get replacment parts and be done with it

Now that Black Audio devices is gone, getting replacement parts for the
Atlas stands is no longer so easy. In many cases, you have to buy more
than just the part that is broken, and often it is cheaper to buy a new stand.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On or about Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:31:54 GMT, Willie K.Yee, M.D. allegedly
wrote:

Wouldn't a die work if you hack sawed off the end of the stand with
the messed up threads, and cut the threads on the clean end of the
stand, now 1/2 " or so shorter?

If the stand is chromed, the die would get knocked around.

It would be best to leave a couple of turns of the original thread to help
the die get started, otherwise you'll need to put in in a lathe to keep it
straight.


Noel Bachelor noelbachelorAT(From:_domain)
Language Recordings Inc (Darwin Australia)

On or about Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:31:54 GMT, Willie K.Yee, M.D. allegedly
wrote:

Wouldn't a die work if you hack sawed off the end of the stand with
the messed up threads, and cut the threads on the clean end of the
stand, now 1/2 " or so shorter?

If the stand is chromed, the die would get knocked around.

It would be best to leave a couple of turns of the original thread to help
the die get started, otherwise you'll need to put in in a lathe to keep it
straight.


Noel Bachelor noelbachelorAT(From:_domain)
Language Recordings Inc (Darwin Australia)

seems simplier(and most likely cheaper unless you do this "alot") to
just get replacment parts and be done with it
George


Unless you need a 1 foot extension instead of three feet.

I've cobbled together a bunch of custom stuff from broken stands.

Also, Atlas seems to make a real game out of gettting replacements at
reasonable prices or availability.
Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

seems simplier(and most likely cheaper unless you do this "alot") to
just get replacment parts and be done with it
George


Unless you need a 1 foot extension instead of three feet.

I've cobbled together a bunch of custom stuff from broken stands.

Also, Atlas seems to make a real game out of gettting replacements at
reasonable prices or availability.
Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

In article ,
(Richard Kuschel) wrote:

seems simplier(and most likely cheaper unless you do this "alot") to
just get replacment parts and be done with it
George


Unless you need a 1 foot extension instead of three feet.

I've cobbled together a bunch of custom stuff from broken stands.

Also, Atlas seems to make a real game out of gettting replacements at
reasonable prices or availability.

This I agree with
Stands are WAY more expensive if your not buying master pack qntys
and even then most distributors will sell cheaper than Atlas direct
I nguess there is some huge qnty price discount that allows this
Gorge

In article ,
(Richard Kuschel) wrote:

seems simplier(and most likely cheaper unless you do this "alot") to
just get replacment parts and be done with it
George


Unless you need a 1 foot extension instead of three feet.

I've cobbled together a bunch of custom stuff from broken stands.

Also, Atlas seems to make a real game out of gettting replacements at
reasonable prices or availability.

This I agree with
Stands are WAY more expensive if your not buying master pack qntys
and even then most distributors will sell cheaper than Atlas direct
I nguess there is some huge qnty price discount that allows this
Gorge

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:49:08 +0100, Pooh Bear
wrote:

Ahhh - the 5 Amp and 15 Amp circular pin plugs I assume ?

Still used here in the UK ( last time I checked ) for theatre stage lighting.

Yup. The 13 Amp plugtop with cartridge fuse is an excellent system,
but not what you need to be messing with when up a ladder replacing a
lamp.

CubaseFAQ www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
"Possibly the world's least impressive web site": George Perfect

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:49:08 +0100, Pooh Bear
wrote:

Ahhh - the 5 Amp and 15 Amp circular pin plugs I assume ?

Still used here in the UK ( last time I checked ) for theatre stage lighting.

Yup. The 13 Amp plugtop with cartridge fuse is an excellent system,
but not what you need to be messing with when up a ladder replacing a
lamp.

CubaseFAQ www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
"Possibly the world's least impressive web site": George Perfect