I need an PCI audio card with 4 input channels for recording in a PC
with windows 2000/XP.

The card should be able to produce standard PCM data so it can be recorded
into WAV files - each channel into a separate file.

The card should also detect silence.

Since the input source is of low quality I do not need a high quality card.

Can you recommend of such a card?

Thanks,
Ury.

In article writes:

I need an PCI audio card with 4 input channels for recording in a PC
with windows 2000/XP.

The card should be able to produce standard PCM data so it can be recorded
into WAV files - each channel into a separate file.

That's easy. There are lots. Look at M-Audio for an assortment of
cards in various physical and interface configurations.

The card should also detect silence.

That's hard, or at least somewhat obscure, and I doubt that you'll
find it as a function of hardware. I'm guessing by this that you want
it to stop recording when the input has been silent for a certain
period of time and start recording again when there's something coming
into it. Generally that would be a software function, and I'll bet
there are some inexpensive or even free tools that will do that. I'm
not aware of this function in any of the "pro audio" recording
software that most of us around here use.

Since the input source is of low quality I do not need a high quality card.

You really don't have much choice when it comes to quality. They're
all pretty good these days once you get out of the "cheap sound card"
range, which you'll have to do in order to get four channels.

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In article writes:

I need an PCI audio card with 4 input channels for recording in a PC
with windows 2000/XP.

The card should be able to produce standard PCM data so it can be recorded
into WAV files - each channel into a separate file.

That's easy. There are lots. Look at M-Audio for an assortment of
cards in various physical and interface configurations.

The card should also detect silence.

That's hard, or at least somewhat obscure, and I doubt that you'll
find it as a function of hardware. I'm guessing by this that you want
it to stop recording when the input has been silent for a certain
period of time and start recording again when there's something coming
into it. Generally that would be a software function, and I'll bet
there are some inexpensive or even free tools that will do that. I'm
not aware of this function in any of the "pro audio" recording
software that most of us around here use.

Since the input source is of low quality I do not need a high quality card.

You really don't have much choice when it comes to quality. They're
all pretty good these days once you get out of the "cheap sound card"
range, which you'll have to do in order to get four channels.

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

Ury wrote:

I need an PCI audio card with 4 input channels for recording in a PC
with windows 2000/XP.

I think I saw a follow up to this already. I agree in the suggestion:
Midiman Delta 44, 66 or 1010LT, they are priced in a fairly narrow and
budget friendly range.

The card should be able to produce standard PCM data so it can be recorded
into WAV files - each channel into a separate file.

This is about the software.

The card should also detect silence.

That too is about the software.

Since the input source is of low quality I do not need a high quality card.

I seriously do not think there are any really really crappy multichannel
sound cards out there. You asumption is grossly flawed anyway, because
you want non-buggy hardware with non-buggy drivers or you will have an
unstable datalogging computer.

Can you recommend of such a card?

Delta 44 and running two instances of Audiograbber *may* be all you
need. Real multitrack software may be way more usable. Various other
suggestions are possible.

Ury.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
*******************************************

Ury wrote:

I need an PCI audio card with 4 input channels for recording in a PC
with windows 2000/XP.

I think I saw a follow up to this already. I agree in the suggestion:
Midiman Delta 44, 66 or 1010LT, they are priced in a fairly narrow and
budget friendly range.

The card should be able to produce standard PCM data so it can be recorded
into WAV files - each channel into a separate file.

This is about the software.

The card should also detect silence.

That too is about the software.

Since the input source is of low quality I do not need a high quality card.

I seriously do not think there are any really really crappy multichannel
sound cards out there. You asumption is grossly flawed anyway, because
you want non-buggy hardware with non-buggy drivers or you will have an
unstable datalogging computer.

Can you recommend of such a card?

Delta 44 and running two instances of Audiograbber *may* be all you
need. Real multitrack software may be way more usable. Various other
suggestions are possible.

Ury.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
*******************************************
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
*******************************************

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1094393063k@trad...
You really don't have much choice when it comes to quality. They're
all pretty good these days once you get out of the "cheap sound card"
range, which you'll have to do in order to get four channels.

Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel recording.
See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

TonyP.

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1094393063k@trad...
You really don't have much choice when it comes to quality. They're
all pretty good these days once you get out of the "cheap sound card"
range, which you'll have to do in order to get four channels.

Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel recording.
See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

TonyP.

In article writes:

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1094393063k@trad...
You really don't have much choice when it comes to quality. They're
all pretty good these days once you get out of the "cheap sound card"
range, which you'll have to do in order to get four channels.

Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel recording.
See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

Are you suggesting that the Santa Cruz is not of usable quality? I
remember when this used to be a pretty good card. In fact, the card I
replaced with a Lynx L22 was a Turtle Beach Tahiti, and the Santa
Crus was the next generation or so beyond it. Turtle Beach always
had a reputation for making sound cards better than the average OEM
product. Did they take a dive?

On the other hand, the Santa Cruz name has been around for many
year, and I expect that the actual hardware carrying that model name
has evolved. Hopefully not for the worse, but you can never be sure what
someone will consider "better" these days.

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

In article writes:

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1094393063k@trad...
You really don't have much choice when it comes to quality. They're
all pretty good these days once you get out of the "cheap sound card"
range, which you'll have to do in order to get four channels.

Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel recording.
See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

Are you suggesting that the Santa Cruz is not of usable quality? I
remember when this used to be a pretty good card. In fact, the card I
replaced with a Lynx L22 was a Turtle Beach Tahiti, and the Santa
Crus was the next generation or so beyond it. Turtle Beach always
had a reputation for making sound cards better than the average OEM
product. Did they take a dive?

On the other hand, the Santa Cruz name has been around for many
year, and I expect that the actual hardware carrying that model name
has evolved. Hopefully not for the worse, but you can never be sure what
someone will consider "better" these days.

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

Tony wrote
Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel recording.
See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

Well, I can't find any thing more that one mic input on my Turtle Beach sound
card, on my custom built PC. Where are these other mic pres? And where is the
multitrack software?

Tony wrote
Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel recording.
See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

Well, I can't find any thing more that one mic input on my Turtle Beach sound
card, on my custom built PC. Where are these other mic pres? And where is the
multitrack software?

"Raymond" wrote in message

Tony wrote
Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel
recording. See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

Well, I can't find any thing more that one mic input on my Turtle
Beach sound card, on my custom built PC. Where are these other mic
pres? And where is the multitrack software?

They don't exist. The Santa Cruz has 4 line inputs, not 4 mic inputs.

"Raymond" wrote in message

Tony wrote
Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel
recording. See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

Well, I can't find any thing more that one mic input on my Turtle
Beach sound card, on my custom built PC. Where are these other mic
pres? And where is the multitrack software?

They don't exist. The Santa Cruz has 4 line inputs, not 4 mic inputs.

Arny wrote
They don't exist. The Santa Cruz has 4 line inputs, not 4 mic inputs.


I'm sorry to inform everyone but..."My" Turtle Beach sound card (I'm looking at
it now) has one mic input, one line input, outputs for front, rear and sub
speakers and a MIDI connection. Plus, there is no software for any multi track
recording anywhere.
I do like the card as it sound's darn good with the Harman Karden sat sticks
and sub.

Arny wrote
They don't exist. The Santa Cruz has 4 line inputs, not 4 mic inputs.


I'm sorry to inform everyone but..."My" Turtle Beach sound card (I'm looking at
it now) has one mic input, one line input, outputs for front, rear and sub
speakers and a MIDI connection. Plus, there is no software for any multi track
recording anywhere.
I do like the card as it sound's darn good with the Harman Karden sat sticks
and sub.

"Raymond" wrote in message

Arny wrote
They don't exist. The Santa Cruz has 4 line inputs, not 4 mic inputs.

I'm sorry to inform everyone but..."My" Turtle Beach sound card (I'm
looking at it now) has one mic input, one line input, outputs for
front, rear and sub speakers and a MIDI connection.

If you put the versajack into secondary stereo analog mode, those are your
inputs 3 and 4

Plus, there is no
software for any multi track recording anywhere.

Download Audacity - freeware.

I do like the card as it sound's darn good with the Harman Karden sat
sticks and sub.

"Raymond" wrote in message

Arny wrote
They don't exist. The Santa Cruz has 4 line inputs, not 4 mic inputs.

I'm sorry to inform everyone but..."My" Turtle Beach sound card (I'm
looking at it now) has one mic input, one line input, outputs for
front, rear and sub speakers and a MIDI connection.

If you put the versajack into secondary stereo analog mode, those are your
inputs 3 and 4

Plus, there is no
software for any multi track recording anywhere.

Download Audacity - freeware.

I do like the card as it sound's darn good with the Harman Karden sat
sticks and sub.

"Raymond" wrote in message
...
Tony wrote
Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel recording.
See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

Well, I can't find any thing more that one mic input on my Turtle Beach
sound
card, on my custom built PC. Where are these other mic pres? And where is
the
multitrack software?

The mic pre's are in your mixer, and the multi-track software available at
your software supplier.

TonyP.

"Raymond" wrote in message
...
Tony wrote
Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel recording.
See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

Well, I can't find any thing more that one mic input on my Turtle Beach
sound
card, on my custom built PC. Where are these other mic pres? And where is
the
multitrack software?

The mic pre's are in your mixer, and the multi-track software available at
your software supplier.

TonyP.

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1094471686k@trad...

In article
writes:

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1094393063k@trad...
You really don't have much choice when it comes to quality. They're
all pretty good these days once you get out of the "cheap sound card"
range, which you'll have to do in order to get four channels.

Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel recording.
See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

Are you suggesting that the Santa Cruz is not of usable quality?

I don't see where I wrote that? I said it's the cheapest card that I know of
that does 4 channel recording.
Whilst it is not too bad, it's still definitely a consumer card.

remember when this used to be a pretty good card. In fact, the card I
replaced with a Lynx L22 was a Turtle Beach Tahiti, and the Santa
Crus was the next generation or so beyond it. Turtle Beach always
had a reputation for making sound cards better than the average OEM
product. Did they take a dive?

It's all relative. The TBSC is a little better than the cheap Sound
Blasters.
Definitely not in the same league as a Lynx.

On the other hand, the Santa Cruz name has been around for many
year, and I expect that the actual hardware carrying that model name
has evolved. Hopefully not for the worse, but you can never be sure what
someone will consider "better" these days.

They don't make anything above consumer AFAIK.
Progress is such that the TBSC is better than their earlier cards,
regardless of it's cheaper price.
Many others have gone a LOT further though.

TonyP.

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1094471686k@trad...

In article
writes:

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1094393063k@trad...
You really don't have much choice when it comes to quality. They're
all pretty good these days once you get out of the "cheap sound card"
range, which you'll have to do in order to get four channels.

Not necessarily, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz does 4 channel recording.
See my post on rec.audio.tech for more details.

Are you suggesting that the Santa Cruz is not of usable quality?

I don't see where I wrote that? I said it's the cheapest card that I know of
that does 4 channel recording.
Whilst it is not too bad, it's still definitely a consumer card.

remember when this used to be a pretty good card. In fact, the card I
replaced with a Lynx L22 was a Turtle Beach Tahiti, and the Santa
Crus was the next generation or so beyond it. Turtle Beach always
had a reputation for making sound cards better than the average OEM
product. Did they take a dive?

It's all relative. The TBSC is a little better than the cheap Sound
Blasters.
Definitely not in the same league as a Lynx.

On the other hand, the Santa Cruz name has been around for many
year, and I expect that the actual hardware carrying that model name
has evolved. Hopefully not for the worse, but you can never be sure what
someone will consider "better" these days.

They don't make anything above consumer AFAIK.
Progress is such that the TBSC is better than their earlier cards,
regardless of it's cheaper price.
Many others have gone a LOT further though.

TonyP.

In article writes:

Are you suggesting that the Santa Cruz is not of usable quality?

I don't see where I wrote that?

I only asked if that's what you had said. I didn't read your thread in
rec.audio.tech (and I'm not going to).

I said it's the cheapest card that I know of
that does 4 channel recording.
Whilst it is not too bad, it's still definitely a consumer card.

No problem with that. That's all it was ever meant to be. However,
there's no reason why, if a "consumer" product fills a need, one can't
use it.

It's all relative. The TBSC is a little better than the cheap Sound
Blasters.
Definitely not in the same league as a Lynx.

That's for sure. But the real reason why I replaced my Tahiti was that
it had outlived its usefulness since its driver development stopped
with Win98. Also, its mini jacks had worn out long ago. I had a 9-pin
D-sub connector hanging out on a piece of cable to make input and
output connections - a modification I was able to make in order to
extend its useful service life. But eventually it had to go. I was
tossing around the M-Audio Audiophile card and the Echo Mia, but it
looked like the Lynx was better supported as a "professional" product
and that's what made it my choice. I wasn't disappointed with the
sound, either. g


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I'm really Mike Rivers )
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In article writes:

Are you suggesting that the Santa Cruz is not of usable quality?

I don't see where I wrote that?

I only asked if that's what you had said. I didn't read your thread in
rec.audio.tech (and I'm not going to).

I said it's the cheapest card that I know of
that does 4 channel recording.
Whilst it is not too bad, it's still definitely a consumer card.

No problem with that. That's all it was ever meant to be. However,
there's no reason why, if a "consumer" product fills a need, one can't
use it.

It's all relative. The TBSC is a little better than the cheap Sound
Blasters.
Definitely not in the same league as a Lynx.

That's for sure. But the real reason why I replaced my Tahiti was that
it had outlived its usefulness since its driver development stopped
with Win98. Also, its mini jacks had worn out long ago. I had a 9-pin
D-sub connector hanging out on a piece of cable to make input and
output connections - a modification I was able to make in order to
extend its useful service life. But eventually it had to go. I was
tossing around the M-Audio Audiophile card and the Echo Mia, but it
looked like the Lynx was better supported as a "professional" product
and that's what made it my choice. I wasn't disappointed with the
sound, either. g


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

arny wrote
If you put the versajack into secondary stereo analog mode, those are your
inputs 3 and 4


Would that be analog out, analog in or digital out (those are the only settings
I have to pick from)?

Download Audacity - freeware.


Yes, I can get that (but I'd rather have something a bit better) but the poster
stated that you can do multi track recording with in the Turtle Beach card
(that is my point).

arny wrote
If you put the versajack into secondary stereo analog mode, those are your
inputs 3 and 4


Would that be analog out, analog in or digital out (those are the only settings
I have to pick from)?

Download Audacity - freeware.


Yes, I can get that (but I'd rather have something a bit better) but the poster
stated that you can do multi track recording with in the Turtle Beach card
(that is my point).

"Raymond" wrote in message

arny wrote
If you put the versajack into secondary stereo analog mode, those
are your inputs 3 and 4


Would that be analog out, analog in or digital out (those are the
only settings I have to pick from)?

Analog in.

Download Audacity - freeware.

Yes, I can get that

The price is *right* and its a good tool for starting out with.

(but I'd rather have something a bit better)

You'll pay for it!

Next major notch up in the food chain is N-Track.

"Raymond" wrote in message

arny wrote
If you put the versajack into secondary stereo analog mode, those
are your inputs 3 and 4


Would that be analog out, analog in or digital out (those are the
only settings I have to pick from)?

Analog in.

Download Audacity - freeware.

Yes, I can get that

The price is *right* and its a good tool for starting out with.

(but I'd rather have something a bit better)

You'll pay for it!

Next major notch up in the food chain is N-Track.

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1094643889k@trad...

In article
writes:

Are you suggesting that the Santa Cruz is not of usable quality?

I don't see where I wrote that?

I only asked if that's what you had said. I didn't read your thread in
rec.audio.tech (and I'm not going to).

So you critisise without even reading. How typical.


I said it's the cheapest card that I know of
that does 4 channel recording.
Whilst it is not too bad, it's still definitely a consumer card.

No problem with that. That's all it was ever meant to be. However,
there's no reason why, if a "consumer" product fills a need, one can't
use it.

That's why I suggested it. What exactly *IS* your problem?

TonyP.

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1094643889k@trad...

In article
writes:

Are you suggesting that the Santa Cruz is not of usable quality?

I don't see where I wrote that?

I only asked if that's what you had said. I didn't read your thread in
rec.audio.tech (and I'm not going to).

So you critisise without even reading. How typical.


I said it's the cheapest card that I know of
that does 4 channel recording.
Whilst it is not too bad, it's still definitely a consumer card.

No problem with that. That's all it was ever meant to be. However,
there's no reason why, if a "consumer" product fills a need, one can't
use it.

That's why I suggested it. What exactly *IS* your problem?

TonyP.

"Raymond" wrote in message
...
arny wrote
If you put the versajack into secondary stereo analog mode, those are
your
inputs 3 and 4

Would that be analog out, analog in or digital out (those are the only
settings
I have to pick from)?

YOU can't work that one out?
(try analog in)

Download Audacity - freeware.

Yes, I can get that (but I'd rather have something a bit better)

Plenty of better software programs available.

but the poster
stated that you can do multi track recording with in the Turtle Beach card
(that is my point).

YOU don't know the difference between software and hardware?

If you want a stand alone box, go to your local music shop.

TonyP.

"Raymond" wrote in message
...
arny wrote
If you put the versajack into secondary stereo analog mode, those are
your
inputs 3 and 4

Would that be analog out, analog in or digital out (those are the only
settings
I have to pick from)?

YOU can't work that one out?
(try analog in)

Download Audacity - freeware.

Yes, I can get that (but I'd rather have something a bit better)

Plenty of better software programs available.

but the poster
stated that you can do multi track recording with in the Turtle Beach card
(that is my point).

YOU don't know the difference between software and hardware?

If you want a stand alone box, go to your local music shop.

TonyP.