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What's your favourite mastering software for PC?
What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC?
Wavelab 5 has been recommended to me but before I take the plunge I'd like to ask if it's worth my money and my time. Are there better packages for PC? By the way, I can't imagine why some people post messages with political content on a forum like rec.audio.pro????? What's it doing here? What's their objective besides ****ing me off? Regards, Ignace |
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 12:28:05 -0700, Ignace Dhont wrote:
What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? Wavelab 5 has been recommended to me but before I take the plunge I'd like to ask if it's worth my money and my time. Are there better packages for PC? I'm a huge fan of wavelab. I have not found any other software that works as well. The best thing about it is that it's interface is largely non modal, so you very rarely get a single focussed window or state that prevents you from clicking or working on anything else in the app at the same time. Sounds trivial, but no other apps seem able to do this, and I find that very frustrating. You have to use it to find how nice this is. Also, the montage is exceptional. I can put together an album, top and tail the tracks, adjust gaps etc and be ready to burn in about three minutes (If I had to  . You can also do all the funky track id stuff.By the way, I can't imagine why some people post messages with political content on a forum like rec.audio.pro????? What's it doing here? What's their objective besides ****ing me off? Get a proper newsreader rather than using google. Google does not seem to thread properly, so you get all the OT threads reply's mixed in with all the other new ones. You can also kill file with a newsreader app. Regards, Ignace |
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Kerry uses Wavelab. Bush uses
Sequoia.................wait!!!...............that was Nixon..................and Sequoia was a boat. "Ignace Dhont" wrote in message om... What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? Wavelab 5 has been recommended to me but before I take the plunge I'd like to ask if it's worth my money and my time. Are there better packages for PC? By the way, I can't imagine why some people post messages with political content on a forum like rec.audio.pro????? What's it doing here? What's their objective besides ****ing me off? Regards, Ignace |
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Do you mean mastering as in "I have a few songs I recorded and mixed on
my PC at home, now I want to master them"? Or do you mean "I'm setting up a mastering facility and wonder what PC mastering suite people recommend"? For the first question, WaveLab will be fine. You might want some plugins, which can quickly cost more thatn WaveLab itself. I don't know for certain if T-rax runs on a PC, and I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard it should be fine for stuff covered by the first question. For the second question, i.e. more serious stuff for a PC, that would probably mean SADiE. Pyramix is trying hard to compete against them with a reasonably new product that looks quite capable. The Mac equivalent would probably be Sonic HD. If you do loads of editing (classical), I've heard many people really like Sequoia. WaveLab is nice as well, a good budget package when you can't afford or simply don't need something like SADiE or Pyramix (or even Sequoia). Of course, if you meant question no. 2 you really should be talking to a few dealers and/or colleagues and test driving a few setups for yourself to see what best fits your way of working. Hope this helps. Thor -- Sonovo Mastering http://www.sonovo.no In article , (Ignace Dhont) wrote: What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? Wavelab 5 has been recommended to me but before I take the plunge I'd like to ask if it's worth my money and my time. Are there better packages for PC? By the way, I can't imagine why some people post messages with political content on a forum like rec.audio.pro????? What's it doing here? What's their objective besides ****ing me off? Regards, Ignace |
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"Ignace Dhont" wrote in message
om What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? Wavelab 5 has been recommended to me but before I take the plunge I'd like to ask if it's worth my money and my time. Are there better packages for PC? There certainly are far more options than just these two. Try searching Google for "DAW software". Could someone complete a serious mastering project using Audacity which is freeware? Probably. Are there reasons why any good piece of DAW software couldn't be used for mastering? Probably not. |
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Samplitude. Or better, Samplitude plus Waves Diamond bundle.
Max Arwood "Ignace Dhont" wrote in message om... What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? Wavelab 5 has been recommended to me but before I take the plunge I'd like to ask if it's worth my money and my time. Are there better packages for PC? By the way, I can't imagine why some people post messages with political content on a forum like rec.audio.pro????? What's it doing here? What's their objective besides ****ing me off? Regards, Ignace |
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"Ignace Dhont" wrote in message om... What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? Wavelab 5 has been recommended to me but before I take the plunge I'd like to ask if it's worth my money and my time. Are there better packages for PC? Regards, Ignace I wouldn't consider doing my own mastering unless mastering simply isn't within the client's budget... and then, I would set limits to what I would be willing to do and would still call it "pre-mastering". I find it better not to master in the same room where the project was tracked and the addition of a second set of ears can be invaluable. What software is used, as opposed to what the room you plan to master in is like and the second set of ears are like, can be an almost negligible matter. Add the word "serious" to a mastering scenario, and if the environment, the speakers, the experience, etc. don't far outweigh the software, you may be barking up the wrong tree to begin with. That said, I like the new Sony Sound Forge 7, which comes with CD Architect for PC based work. -- David Morgan (MAMS) http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com Morgan Audio Media Service Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901 _______________________________________ http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com |
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"RD Jones" wrote in message om... (Ignace Dhont) wrote in message . com... What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? Sound Forge ! Actually the mastering program that Sony/Sonic Foundry make is called CD Architect. TonyP. |
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Ignace Dhont wrote:
What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? Wavelab 5 has been recommended to me but before I take the plunge I'd like to ask if it's worth my money and my time. Are there better packages for PC? To me, Samplitude is the only way to go. It just makes sense to me. It does everything I need, and doesn't leave me wanting for more. -- Eric Practice Your Mixing Skills Multi-Track Masters on CD-ROM www.Raw-Tracks.com |
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Thanks for all the info! I'm going to look at Wavelab, CD architect
and Samplitude then. And at SADiE plus Pyramix just to see what I won't get.. too costly for me. Yes things like monitoring conditions are more important for mastering than the software package used, I know. Trying to make the best of my budget. Regards, Ignace Dhont Netherlands |
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"Animix" wrote in message ...
Kerry uses Wavelab. Bush uses Sequoia.................wait!!!...............that was Nixon.................. I thought Nixon used a Uher reel-to-reel. And the Signal Corps had a very tough time trying to teach the technically-uninclined Nixon how to operate it. Rose Mary Woods, OTOH... |
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"David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote in message .. .
"Ignace Dhont" wrote in message om... What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? (snippage) Waves Native Power Pack is an excellent set of plug ins, but it's bonecrushingly expensive. Cool Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition) is a decent tracking/mastering package as well. |
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Paul wrote:
"Animix" wrote in message ... Kerry uses Wavelab. Bush uses Sequoia.................wait!!!...............that was Nixon.................. I thought Nixon used a Uher reel-to-reel. And the Signal Corps had a very tough time trying to teach the technically-uninclined Nixon how to operate it. Rose Mary Woods, OTOH... Nixon actually used a Sony machine, and indeed he did have a lot of trouble figuring out which direction the switch needed to be in. It was Rosemary who had the Uher 8000 transcription machine on her desk. I dunno what Johnson used, but the Johnson tapes don't sound bad at all. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Thanks for all the info! I'm going to look at Wavelab, CD architect
and Samplitude then. And at SADiE plus Pyramix just to see what I won't get.. too costly for me. The big plus for Samplitude is that you can do everything with it..including full blown multitracking...just need the one program..saves a ton of time..IMO. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Paul wrote:
"David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote in message .. . "Ignace Dhont" wrote in message om... What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? (snippage) Waves Native Power Pack is an excellent set of plug ins, but it's bonecrushingly expensive. Cool Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition) is a decent tracking/mastering package as well. I'll second the Adobe Audition recommendation - it might also be worth looking at the stuff from Minnetonka too. Cheers. James. |
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"James Perrett" wrote in message ... : Paul wrote: : : "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote in message .. . : "Ignace Dhont" wrote in message om... : What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? : : (snippage) : : Waves Native Power Pack is an excellent set of plug ins, but it's : bonecrushingly expensive. : : Cool Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition) is a decent tracking/mastering : package as well. AFIK neither Waves or CEP can burn a CD. Isn't that one requirement for mastering? Can you serially play and modify 10-20 songs with all your plug in's independently using automation, set start and stop points and burn a Redbook CD with this stuff above? No way AFAIK. I think you need to know what mastering is before you buy any of the stuff these folks are blindly recommending. Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call mastering packages. Phil Abbate |
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"anybody-but-bush" Anybody But wrote in message... Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call mastering packages. If it's really all going to be done in a 'box' package.... best to pick up a Mac and go with Sonic Solutions. DM |
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"anybody-but-bush" Anybody But wrote in message ink.net... Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call mastering packages. CD Architect is made by Sony/Sonic Foundry and is stand alone software. Wavelab does it all, whereas the Sony/SF package is Sound Forge + CD Architect. CD Architect has one real limitation compared to wavelab IMO, it still doesn't do CD-TEXT. TonyP. |
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"anybody-but-bush" Anybody But wrote in message ink.net... Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call mastering packages. CD Architect is made by Sony/Sonic Foundry and is stand alone software. Wavelab does it all, whereas the Sony/SF package is Sound Forge + CD Architect. CD Architect has one real limitation compared to wavelab IMO, it still doesn't do CD-TEXT. TonyP. |
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TonyP wrote:
"anybody-but-bush" Anybody But wrote in message ink.net... Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call mastering packages. CD Architect is made by Sony/Sonic Foundry and is stand alone software. Wavelab does it all, whereas the Sony/SF package is Sound Forge + CD Architect. CD Architect has one real limitation compared to wavelab IMO, it still doesn't do CD-TEXT. I too vote for CD-Architect, at least for my level of 'mastering'. Great easy intuitive graphical layout, envelopes, levelling, fades etc, and DX chains per event as well as overall. geoff |
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TonyP wrote:
"anybody-but-bush" Anybody But wrote in message ink.net... Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call mastering packages. CD Architect is made by Sony/Sonic Foundry and is stand alone software. Wavelab does it all, whereas the Sony/SF package is Sound Forge + CD Architect. CD Architect has one real limitation compared to wavelab IMO, it still doesn't do CD-TEXT. I too vote for CD-Architect, at least for my level of 'mastering'. Great easy intuitive graphical layout, envelopes, levelling, fades etc, and DX chains per event as well as overall. geoff |
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"playon" playonATcomcast.net wrote in message ... : Samplitude! Dude. I looked at their web page and can not find that Samplitude sequences and burns multiple tracks. Am I missing an option? Are you serious or high? Can anyone other than playon comment on Samplitude, it looks like another DAW. Phil Abbate : AFIK neither Waves or CEP can burn a CD. Isn't that one requirement for mastering? Can you : serially play and modify 10-20 songs with all your plug in's independently using automation, : set start and stop points and burn a Redbook CD with this stuff above? : : No way AFAIK. I think you need to know what mastering is before you buy any of the stuff : these folks are blindly recommending. : : Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call : mastering packages. : : Phil Abbate : : |
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"playon" playonATcomcast.net wrote in message ... : Samplitude! Dude. I looked at their web page and can not find that Samplitude sequences and burns multiple tracks. Am I missing an option? Are you serious or high? Can anyone other than playon comment on Samplitude, it looks like another DAW. Phil Abbate : AFIK neither Waves or CEP can burn a CD. Isn't that one requirement for mastering? Can you : serially play and modify 10-20 songs with all your plug in's independently using automation, : set start and stop points and burn a Redbook CD with this stuff above? : : No way AFAIK. I think you need to know what mastering is before you buy any of the stuff : these folks are blindly recommending. : : Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call : mastering packages. : : Phil Abbate : : |
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I use Sequoia here (the upper level of the Samplitude line). Samplitude and
Sequoia are both excellent professional tools for CD mastering whether you work "inside the box" or with external processing. Nice thing about the program is you can also use it for sequencing and multi-track production as well... I went to Samplitude years ago and hit Sequoia as soon as they started Beta testing for it and I haven't looked back since. I started with Sonic Solutions for mastering and I find that Sequoia has a feature set that is much better for me than sonic ever had. --Ben -- Benjamin Maas Fifth Circle Audio Los Angeles, CA http://www.fifthcircle.com Please remove "Nospam" from address for replies "anybody-but-bush" Anybody But wrote in message ... "playon" playonATcomcast.net wrote in message ... : Samplitude! Dude. I looked at their web page and can not find that Samplitude sequences and burns multiple tracks. Am I missing an option? Are you serious or high? Can anyone other than playon comment on Samplitude, it looks like another DAW. Phil Abbate : AFIK neither Waves or CEP can burn a CD. Isn't that one requirement for mastering? Can you : serially play and modify 10-20 songs with all your plug in's independently using automation, : set start and stop points and burn a Redbook CD with this stuff above? : : No way AFAIK. I think you need to know what mastering is before you buy any of the stuff : these folks are blindly recommending. : : Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call : mastering packages. : : Phil Abbate : : |
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I use Sequoia here (the upper level of the Samplitude line). Samplitude and
Sequoia are both excellent professional tools for CD mastering whether you work "inside the box" or with external processing. Nice thing about the program is you can also use it for sequencing and multi-track production as well... I went to Samplitude years ago and hit Sequoia as soon as they started Beta testing for it and I haven't looked back since. I started with Sonic Solutions for mastering and I find that Sequoia has a feature set that is much better for me than sonic ever had. --Ben -- Benjamin Maas Fifth Circle Audio Los Angeles, CA http://www.fifthcircle.com Please remove "Nospam" from address for replies "anybody-but-bush" Anybody But wrote in message ... "playon" playonATcomcast.net wrote in message ... : Samplitude! Dude. I looked at their web page and can not find that Samplitude sequences and burns multiple tracks. Am I missing an option? Are you serious or high? Can anyone other than playon comment on Samplitude, it looks like another DAW. Phil Abbate : AFIK neither Waves or CEP can burn a CD. Isn't that one requirement for mastering? Can you : serially play and modify 10-20 songs with all your plug in's independently using automation, : set start and stop points and burn a Redbook CD with this stuff above? : : No way AFAIK. I think you need to know what mastering is before you buy any of the stuff : these folks are blindly recommending. : : Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call : mastering packages. : : Phil Abbate : : |
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anybody-but-bush wrote:
"James Perrett" wrote in message ... : Paul wrote: : : "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote in message .. . : "Ignace Dhont" wrote in message om... : What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? : : (snippage) : : Waves Native Power Pack is an excellent set of plug ins, but it's : bonecrushingly expensive. : : Cool Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition) is a decent tracking/mastering : package as well. AFIK neither Waves or CEP can burn a CD. Isn't that one requirement for mastering? Can you serially play and modify 10-20 songs with all your plug in's independently using automation, set start and stop points and burn a Redbook CD with this stuff above? The way I work is to get the audio sounding right in one piece of software and then do the CD encoding in another. Until recently, all in one packages lacked some of the finer points of CD burning that you would find in more specialist software. I also produce pre-masters for vinyl so I won't always want to burn a CD master. Cheers. James. |
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anybody-but-bush wrote:
"James Perrett" wrote in message ... : Paul wrote: : : "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote in message .. . : "Ignace Dhont" wrote in message om... : What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC? : : (snippage) : : Waves Native Power Pack is an excellent set of plug ins, but it's : bonecrushingly expensive. : : Cool Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition) is a decent tracking/mastering : package as well. AFIK neither Waves or CEP can burn a CD. Isn't that one requirement for mastering? Can you serially play and modify 10-20 songs with all your plug in's independently using automation, set start and stop points and burn a Redbook CD with this stuff above? The way I work is to get the audio sounding right in one piece of software and then do the CD encoding in another. Until recently, all in one packages lacked some of the finer points of CD burning that you would find in more specialist software. I also produce pre-masters for vinyl so I won't always want to burn a CD master. Cheers. James. |
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"James Perrett" wrote in message ... The way I work is to get the audio sounding right in one piece of software and then do the CD encoding in another. Until recently, all in one packages lacked some of the finer points of CD burning that you would find in more specialist software. I also produce pre-masters for vinyl so I won't always want to burn a CD master. Cheers. James. Samplitude and Sequoia are all in one programs that certainly aren't lacking the finer points of CD burning. Do your mix in samp, bounce it and master it. No extra programs to deal with... If you use Sequoia, then you can output a DDP 2.0 for replication. --Ben -- Benjamin Maas Fifth Circle Audio Los Angeles, CA http://www.fifthcircle.com Please remove "Nospam" from address for replies |
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"James Perrett" wrote in message ... The way I work is to get the audio sounding right in one piece of software and then do the CD encoding in another. Until recently, all in one packages lacked some of the finer points of CD burning that you would find in more specialist software. I also produce pre-masters for vinyl so I won't always want to burn a CD master. Cheers. James. Samplitude and Sequoia are all in one programs that certainly aren't lacking the finer points of CD burning. Do your mix in samp, bounce it and master it. No extra programs to deal with... If you use Sequoia, then you can output a DDP 2.0 for replication. --Ben -- Benjamin Maas Fifth Circle Audio Los Angeles, CA http://www.fifthcircle.com Please remove "Nospam" from address for replies |
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"James Perrett" wrote in message I also produce pre-masters for vinyl so I won't always want to burn a CD master. That's OK, you can still do your vinyl master on CD, just make sure you label it as such ! geoff |
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"James Perrett" wrote in message I also produce pre-masters for vinyl so I won't always want to burn a CD master. That's OK, you can still do your vinyl master on CD, just make sure you label it as such ! geoff |
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