I'm trying to get my Dad to do his home recording on a PC however he
likes to record live on his digital studio. Track One - drum machine,
track two - guitar and track three vocals. He then adds other parts
onto other tracks afterwards.

Is there a soundcard that can take 3 seperate inputs and put them onto
3 seperate channels on a music sequencer?

Thanks

In article writes:

I'm trying to get my Dad to do his home recording on a PC however he
likes to record live on his digital studio. Track One - drum machine,
track two - guitar and track three vocals. He then adds other parts
onto other tracks afterwards.

If he's having fun, leave him alone.

Is there a soundcard that can take 3 seperate inputs and put them onto
3 seperate channels on a music sequencer?

Sure, there are several. Look at M-Audio and Aardvark for two of the
many choices. He wouldn't really be gaining very much, however.
Chances are he records the drum machine first, then overdubs guitar,
then overdubs vocals. A multi-input sound card would let him track
drum machine, guitar, and one vocal part in a pass, but is that really
what he wants to do? And does he want to learn to work with the
computer when he already knows how to use the integrated multitrack
recorder/mixer?

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I don't know about Cake, but Cub should allow multitrack with any AISO
device. That's the catch, though, because directsound doesn't really
support it. I've done it with Nuendo and SBAudigyZSPlatnum.

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"David Poole" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the reply. At the moment he is working with a ZOOM 1204 and he
feels restricted because he has to record one track at a time. He would
like
to be able to play the drum machine, guitar and sing at the same time and
go
to different tracks (he's old school, 69 years of age). He's thinking
about
buying a Tascam 2488 so he can do this but he already has a very good PC.
I've shown him what I do with Cakewalk Pro 9 and how easy it is and I'd
like
him to take the same path.

BUT, is there a device which will allow him to record the three seperate
parts and go to three seperate tracks on Cakewalk (or even Cubase)?

Thanks


"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1089292600k@trad...

In article
writes:

I'm trying to get my Dad to do his home recording on a PC however he
likes to record live on his digital studio. Track One - drum machine,
track two - guitar and track three vocals. He then adds other parts
onto other tracks afterwards.

If he's having fun, leave him alone.

Is there a soundcard that can take 3 seperate inputs and put them onto
3 seperate channels on a music sequencer?

Sure, there are several. Look at M-Audio and Aardvark for two of the
many choices. He wouldn't really be gaining very much, however.
Chances are he records the drum machine first, then overdubs guitar,
then overdubs vocals. A multi-input sound card would let him track
drum machine, guitar, and one vocal part in a pass, but is that really
what he wants to do? And does he want to learn to work with the
computer when he already knows how to use the integrated multitrack
recorder/mixer?

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

Thanks for the reply. At the moment he is working with a ZOOM 1204 and he
feels restricted because he has to record one track at a time. He would like
to be able to play the drum machine, guitar and sing at the same time and go
to different tracks (he's old school, 69 years of age). He's thinking about
buying a Tascam 2488 so he can do this but he already has a very good PC.
I've shown him what I do with Cakewalk Pro 9 and how easy it is and I'd like
him to take the same path.

BUT, is there a device which will allow him to record the three seperate
parts and go to three seperate tracks on Cakewalk (or even Cubase)?

Thanks


"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1089292600k@trad...

In article
writes:

I'm trying to get my Dad to do his home recording on a PC however he
likes to record live on his digital studio. Track One - drum machine,
track two - guitar and track three vocals. He then adds other parts
onto other tracks afterwards.

If he's having fun, leave him alone.

Is there a soundcard that can take 3 seperate inputs and put them onto
3 seperate channels on a music sequencer?

Sure, there are several. Look at M-Audio and Aardvark for two of the
many choices. He wouldn't really be gaining very much, however.
Chances are he records the drum machine first, then overdubs guitar,
then overdubs vocals. A multi-input sound card would let him track
drum machine, guitar, and one vocal part in a pass, but is that really
what he wants to do? And does he want to learn to work with the
computer when he already knows how to use the integrated multitrack
recorder/mixer?

--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:28:36 GMT, "David Poole"
wrote:

Thanks for the reply. At the moment he is working with a ZOOM 1204 and he
feels restricted because he has to record one track at a time. He would like
to be able to play the drum machine, guitar and sing at the same time and go
to different tracks (he's old school, 69 years of age). He's thinking about
buying a Tascam 2488 so he can do this but he already has a very good PC.
I've shown him what I do with Cakewalk Pro 9 and how easy it is and I'd like
him to take the same path.

BUT, is there a device which will allow him to record the three seperate
parts and go to three seperate tracks on Cakewalk (or even Cubase)?

Yup. Soundcards come in many sizes. I use an M-Audio Delta 1010
which offers 8 mono analogue inputs and outputs. (Normally seen by a
sequencer as 4 stereo, but this isn't invariable.)

Between the Audiophile 2496 (one stereo In/Out) and the 1010 there is
a range of cards with different number of ports. Look at:
www.midiman.com

Other makers have similar ranges.

A small external mixer is an almost essential adjunct to this sort of
setup. A breed of Firewire-connected audio interfaces, incorporating
some mixing functions, microphone preamps etc. is appearing on the
market. One of these may suit him. Perhaps someone can recommend
a good one - I have no experience with them.

CubaseFAQ www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
"Possibly the world's least impressive web site": George Perfect

"David Poole" wrote in message
om...
I'm trying to get my Dad to do his home recording on a PC however he
likes to record live on his digital studio. Track One - drum machine,
track two - guitar and track three vocals. He then adds other parts
onto other tracks afterwards.

A small mixer would also work (with a regular two channel card) assuming he
has MIDI capabilities. The drum machine wouldn't have to be recorded, just
monitored (at least until mixdown at which point he could record it either
as a whole or put different drums to different tracks for even more
control).

Does this mean that you can plug 4 instruments in and send them to 4
different tracks on the sequencer?
If so - What sequencer do you use and would this work on Cakewalk Pro 9 or
Cakewalk Music Creator ?

Thanks

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
Yup. Soundcards come in many sizes. I use an M-Audio Delta 1010
which offers 8 mono analogue inputs and outputs. (Normally seen by a
sequencer as 4 stereo, but this isn't invariable.)

In article writes:

At the moment he is working with a ZOOM 1204 and he
feels restricted because he has to record one track at a time. He would like
to be able to play the drum machine, guitar and sing at the same time and go
to different tracks (he's old school, 69 years of age). He's thinking about
buying a Tascam 2488 so he can do this but he already has a very good PC.
I've shown him what I do with Cakewalk Pro 9 and how easy it is and I'd like
him to take the same path.

But does HE want to take that path? I'm old school too, and I'd rather
use something like the TASCAM that he's considering. I'll bet he
really doesn't want to fool with a computer. Ask him.

BUT, is there a device which will allow him to record the three seperate
parts and go to three seperate tracks on Cakewalk (or even Cubase)?

Yes. A multi-channel audio interface. Take a look at the M-Audio Delta 44
(http://tinyurl.com/ys89m) or the Omni Studio (http://tinyurl.com/yrfcm).
The Delta 44 doesn't have mic preamps and is intended to be used with
an external preamp or mixer. The Omni Studio has two mic/line inputs
and two line inputs which can be used simultaneously to record to four
tracks.

But be sure he really wants to use the computer before you lead him
down that path. He may rather have something that doesn't do anything
but record and mix, but does it without having to buy other hardware
and software and worry about drivers, viruses, or gremlins.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

In article writes:

At the moment he is working with a ZOOM 1204 and he
feels restricted because he has to record one track at a time. He would like
to be able to play the drum machine, guitar and sing at the same time and go
to different tracks (he's old school, 69 years of age). He's thinking about
buying a Tascam 2488 so he can do this but he already has a very good PC.
I've shown him what I do with Cakewalk Pro 9 and how easy it is and I'd like
him to take the same path.

But does HE want to take that path? I'm old school too, and I'd rather
use something like the TASCAM that he's considering. I'll bet he
really doesn't want to fool with a computer. Ask him.

BUT, is there a device which will allow him to record the three seperate
parts and go to three seperate tracks on Cakewalk (or even Cubase)?

Yes. A multi-channel audio interface. Take a look at the M-Audio Delta 44
(http://tinyurl.com/ys89m) or the Omni Studio (http://tinyurl.com/yrfcm).
The Delta 44 doesn't have mic preamps and is intended to be used with
an external preamp or mixer. The Omni Studio has two mic/line inputs
and two line inputs which can be used simultaneously to record to four
tracks.

But be sure he really wants to use the computer before you lead him
down that path. He may rather have something that doesn't do anything
but record and mix, but does it without having to buy other hardware
and software and worry about drivers, viruses, or gremlins.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

"David Poole" wrote in
:

Yup. Soundcards come in many sizes. I use an M-Audio Delta 1010
which offers 8 mono analogue inputs and outputs. (Normally seen by

Does this mean that you can plug 4 instruments in and send them to 4
different tracks on the sequencer?

If the sequencer can also handle audio data, yes. You can plug in 8
instruments and send to different tracks.

If so - What sequencer do you use and would this work on Cakewalk Pro
9 or Cakewalk Music Creator ?

Cakewalk SONAR can record multiple tracks simultaneously. I would *guess*
Cakewalk Pro 9 also can.

I think the current version of Cakewalk Music Creator Pro can handle it,
but not Cakewalk Music Creator (without the "Pro").

If you have one of these products, just check the manual, otherwise the
info should be available at Cakewalk's website.

Regards
/Jonas

"David Poole" wrote in
:

Yup. Soundcards come in many sizes. I use an M-Audio Delta 1010
which offers 8 mono analogue inputs and outputs. (Normally seen by

Does this mean that you can plug 4 instruments in and send them to 4
different tracks on the sequencer?

If the sequencer can also handle audio data, yes. You can plug in 8
instruments and send to different tracks.

If so - What sequencer do you use and would this work on Cakewalk Pro
9 or Cakewalk Music Creator ?

Cakewalk SONAR can record multiple tracks simultaneously. I would *guess*
Cakewalk Pro 9 also can.

I think the current version of Cakewalk Music Creator Pro can handle it,
but not Cakewalk Music Creator (without the "Pro").

If you have one of these products, just check the manual, otherwise the
info should be available at Cakewalk's website.

Regards
/Jonas

This is a 69 year old guy who makes all his own cd covers with Photshop and
Corel Draw. He transfers his tracks from the Zoom 1204 via USB into
Soundforge and does his editing. He then makes all his own cd's and gives
them away. He's on his 32nd cd since he retired 3 years ago. So yes, he's PC
literate.

I'll look at your links - thanks.

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1089318748k@trad...

In article
writes:
But does HE want to take that path? I'm old school too, and I'd rather
use something like the TASCAM that he's considering. I'll bet he
really doesn't want to fool with a computer. Ask him.

This is a 69 year old guy who makes all his own cd covers with Photshop and
Corel Draw. He transfers his tracks from the Zoom 1204 via USB into
Soundforge and does his editing. He then makes all his own cd's and gives
them away. He's on his 32nd cd since he retired 3 years ago. So yes, he's PC
literate.

I'll look at your links - thanks.

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1089318748k@trad...

In article
writes:
But does HE want to take that path? I'm old school too, and I'd rather
use something like the TASCAM that he's considering. I'll bet he
really doesn't want to fool with a computer. Ask him.

Thanks


"Jonas Eckerman" wrote in message
2.194...

I think the current version of Cakewalk Music Creator Pro can handle it,
but not Cakewalk Music Creator (without the "Pro").

If you have one of these products, just check the manual, otherwise the
info should be available at Cakewalk's website.

Regards
/Jonas

Thanks


"Jonas Eckerman" wrote in message
2.194...

I think the current version of Cakewalk Music Creator Pro can handle it,
but not Cakewalk Music Creator (without the "Pro").

If you have one of these products, just check the manual, otherwise the
info should be available at Cakewalk's website.

Regards
/Jonas

Check out the Lynx 2 series and choose the one best suited for your
needs

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 16:07:00 GMT, "David Poole"
wrote:

Thanks


"Jonas Eckerman" wrote in message
12.194...

I think the current version of Cakewalk Music Creator Pro can handle it,
but not Cakewalk Music Creator (without the "Pro").

If you have one of these products, just check the manual, otherwise the
info should be available at Cakewalk's website.

Regards
/Jonas


Mike Cleaver Broadcast Services
Voice-overs, Newscaster, Engineering and Consulting
Vancouver, BC, Canada

Check out the Lynx 2 series and choose the one best suited for your
needs

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 16:07:00 GMT, "David Poole"
wrote:

Thanks


"Jonas Eckerman" wrote in message
12.194...

I think the current version of Cakewalk Music Creator Pro can handle it,
but not Cakewalk Music Creator (without the "Pro").

If you have one of these products, just check the manual, otherwise the
info should be available at Cakewalk's website.

Regards
/Jonas


Mike Cleaver Broadcast Services
Voice-overs, Newscaster, Engineering and Consulting
Vancouver, BC, Canada

"Ricky W. Hunt" wrote in message news:tahHc.13380$WX.1668@attbi_s51...
"David Poole" wrote in message
om...
I'm trying to get my Dad to do his home recording on a PC however he
likes to record live on his digital studio. Track One - drum machine,
track two - guitar and track three vocals. He then adds other parts
onto other tracks afterwards.

A small mixer would also work (with a regular two channel card) assuming he
has MIDI capabilities. The drum machine wouldn't have to be recorded, just
monitored (at least until mixdown at which point he could record it either
as a whole or put different drums to different tracks for even more
control).

Here's an idea: check out the Aardvark Direct Pro. It's got 4 mic
pres/line inputs and a software mixer and is ASIO. You can do exactly
what your dad wants, Drums on 1, guitar on 2, vocals on 3 to 3
separate tracks. I've tracked drums (kick, snare, & stereo overheads)
to 4 separate tracks in SAW32 with no probs, doing the same in
Cake/Cub should be a cinch. Oh, and it's also got MIDI in/out and
24-bit/96khz converters. If he's using a standard pc-audio 2-track
card (soundblaster etc.) there will be a huge difference in audio
quality, even when playing back stuff already recorded onto the
computer. Check it out!

Carlos

"Ricky W. Hunt" wrote in message news:tahHc.13380$WX.1668@attbi_s51...
"David Poole" wrote in message
om...
I'm trying to get my Dad to do his home recording on a PC however he
likes to record live on his digital studio. Track One - drum machine,
track two - guitar and track three vocals. He then adds other parts
onto other tracks afterwards.

A small mixer would also work (with a regular two channel card) assuming he
has MIDI capabilities. The drum machine wouldn't have to be recorded, just
monitored (at least until mixdown at which point he could record it either
as a whole or put different drums to different tracks for even more
control).

Here's an idea: check out the Aardvark Direct Pro. It's got 4 mic
pres/line inputs and a software mixer and is ASIO. You can do exactly
what your dad wants, Drums on 1, guitar on 2, vocals on 3 to 3
separate tracks. I've tracked drums (kick, snare, & stereo overheads)
to 4 separate tracks in SAW32 with no probs, doing the same in
Cake/Cub should be a cinch. Oh, and it's also got MIDI in/out and
24-bit/96khz converters. If he's using a standard pc-audio 2-track
card (soundblaster etc.) there will be a huge difference in audio
quality, even when playing back stuff already recorded onto the
computer. Check it out!

Carlos