I remember way back when and the coolest thing to have was a Lexi
Prime Time.

They were way out of my league back then (I was using an MXR Analog
Delay back then) and I didn't know much about them.

Some studio guy told me back then that "Prime number delays sound
better because they are not divisible by other delay times", but
looking back on this I think he was BS'ing me.

SO....what is the legend behind the name....has to be one of the
coolest product names ever I will say.

Analogeezer

Analogeezer wrote:

SO....what is the legend behind the name....has to be one of the
coolest product names ever I will say.


Yeah. "Prime Time II" didn't have quite the flair. Better bandwidth, though.



Don

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"Analogeezer" wrote in message
m...
Some studio guy told me back then that "Prime number delays sound
better because they are not divisible by other delay times", but
looking back on this I think he was BS'ing me.

More like Lexicon was BS'ing all of us!

"Don Cooper" wrote in message
...
Yeah. "Prime Time II" didn't have quite the flair. Better bandwidth,
though.

The better bandwidth was why it didn't have the sound!

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Bob Olhsson wrote:

The better bandwidth was why it didn't have the sound!


True. The return shouldn't sound like the original.

(Well, not all the time, anyway.)



Don

In article writes:

SO....what is the legend behind the name....has to be one of the
coolest product names ever I will say.

Probably because by the time it came out, delays were finally ready
for "prime time." Since it's a time-based effect, the name makes a
certain degree of sense.

I want to know why the new BLUE preamp is called "Robbie." I haven't
seen it on the hoof yet, but from the pictures I don't think it looks
at all like a robot. It doesn't look at all like a mic preamp either,
but I'm used to unconventional industrial designs from BLUE.



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On 2 Jul 2004 16:00:20 -0400, Mike Rivers wrote:

In article writes:

SO....what is the legend behind the name....has to be one of the
coolest product names ever I will say.

Probably because by the time it came out, delays were finally ready
for "prime time." Since it's a time-based effect, the name makes a
certain degree of sense.

I want to know why the new BLUE preamp is called "Robbie." I haven't
seen it on the hoof yet, but from the pictures I don't think it looks
at all like a robot. It doesn't look at all like a mic preamp either,
but I'm used to unconventional industrial designs from BLUE.


The marketing department did a high-priced focus group study.

Then the responsible manager named the product after her cat.

HTH

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"Analogeezer" wrote in message
m...
I remember way back when and the coolest thing to have was a Lexi
Prime Time.

They were way out of my league back then (I was using an MXR Analog
Delay back then) and I didn't know much about them.

Some studio guy told me back then that "Prime number delays sound
better because they are not divisible by other delay times", but
looking back on this I think he was BS'ing me.

SO....what is the legend behind the name....has to be one of the
coolest product names ever I will say.

Analogeezer

Mike Rivers wrote:

Probably because by the time it came out, delays were finally ready
for "prime time." Since it's a time-based effect, the name makes a
certain degree of sense.

I was in the delay manufacturing business at the same time with a
company called Audio Digital (it was us, Lex, and DeltaLab for delay at
that point in time) and that's the story I heard. Doesn't necessarily
make it true, but it's plausible.

---------Denny

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"Analogeezer" wrote in message m...
I remember way back when and the coolest thing to have was a Lexi
Prime Time.

They were way out of my league back then (I was using an MXR Analog
Delay back then) and I didn't know much about them.

Some studio guy told me back then that "Prime number delays sound
better because they are not divisible by other delay times", but
looking back on this I think he was BS'ing me.

SO....what is the legend behind the name....has to be one of the
coolest product names ever I will say.

Analogeezer


Didn't this have something to do with 'prime' numbers ?

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Denny Conn wrote:

I was in the delay manufacturing business at the same time with a
company called Audio Digital


Did you guys make the two channel unit with the toggle switches and
LED's in increments?

That was cool!


Don

"David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote in message ...
Didn't this have something to do with 'prime' numbers ?

Yes. There was an explanation about it in the "Prime Time 93" manual
but I haven't seen it in a few years and I don't remember what the
story was. I do remember that there was an indicator light on the 93
that would indicate when a prime number was selected by the
millisecond delay setting.

In article writes:

Yes. There was an explanation about it in the "Prime Time 93" manual
but I haven't seen it in a few years and I don't remember what the
story was. I do remember that there was an indicator light on the 93
that would indicate when a prime number was selected by the
millisecond delay setting.

Oh, yeah, I remember something like that. I'll bet this is one of
those instances where Marketing thought up the name first, and then
Engineering came up with a gimmick that only the in crowd (those who
read the manual) would know about. Kind of like playing Pong on the
early SSL consoles.

I can't see why there would be any desirable relationship between
audio (or music) and a prime number of milliseconds of delay.

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"ThePaulThomas" wrote in message
om...
"David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote in message
...
Didn't this have something to do with 'prime' numbers ?

Yes. There was an explanation about it in the "Prime Time 93" manual
but I haven't seen it in a few years and I don't remember what the
story was. I do remember that there was an indicator light on the 93
that would indicate when a prime number was selected by the
millisecond delay setting.

That's as I recall it (albeit hazily), as well. It IS a catchy name for a
product (as the o.p. alluded to), however. A couple other product names
from a bygone era that I've always thought were pretty slick a

1.) Ursa Major Space Station
2.) Publison Infernal Machine
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1088781793k@trad...

I want to know why the new BLUE preamp is called "Robbie." I haven't
seen it on the hoof yet, but from the pictures I don't think it looks
at all like a robot.

Maybe it was intended to be mounted on top of an EMT 251.
--


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Saqqara Records
http://www.saqqararecords.com

Analogeezer wrote:

Some studio guy told me back then that "Prime number delays sound
better because they are not divisible by other delay times", but
looking back on this I think he was BS'ing me.

I think they called it that for marketing, and not tech BS marketing,
reasons; "ready for primetime" is implied, and they did work well and
flexibly for the technology of the day, and reliably by any standard.

They are not limited to prime numbers for delay choices, but do indicate
with a little red dot in the display when a prime number is selected.

--
ha

Don Cooper wrote:

Did you guys make the two channel unit with the toggle switches and
LED's in increments?

That was cool!

Yep, that was us...I've still got the demo model we took to NAMM that
was completely hand soldered by yours truly! Of course, the first demo
model we took didn't have anything working but flashing lights...

----------Denny

--
Life begins at 60 - 1.060, that is.

Reply to denny_dot_g_dot_conn_at_ci_dot_eugene_dot_or_dot_u s

Don Cooper wrote:

Did you guys make the two channel unit with the toggle switches and
LED's in increments?

That was cool!

Actually, that was the company we had before Audio Digital...Advanced
Audio Designs. We made gtr. and bass preamps to financce the delay
design. So long ago that I had to really dig through the brains cells
to remember!

----------Denny
--
Life begins at 60 - 1.060, that is.

Reply to denny_dot_g_dot_conn_at_ci_dot_eugene_dot_or_dot_u s

On 2004-07-03, Mike Rivers wrote:

In article
writes:

Yes. There was an explanation about it in the "Prime Time 93" manual
but I haven't seen it in a few years and I don't remember what the
story was. I do remember that there was an indicator light on the 93
that would indicate when a prime number was selected by the
millisecond delay setting.

Oh, yeah, I remember something like that. I'll bet this is one of
those instances where Marketing thought up the name first, and then
Engineering came up with a gimmick that only the in crowd (those who
read the manual) would know about. Kind of like playing Pong on the
early SSL consoles.

I can't see why there would be any desirable relationship between
audio (or music) and a prime number of milliseconds of delay.

Well... When you write a DSP algorithm that simulates reverb
with multiple delay lines, you want the delay times to be prime
between themselves, so that the echoes are as dense a possible.
Otherwise it sounds grainy or rings like the inside of a metal
vat.

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hank alrich wrote:

They are not limited to prime numbers for delay choices, but do indicate
with a little red dot in the display when a prime number is selected.


I loved that groovy red dot, Man.

Denny Conn wrote:

Yep, that was us...I've still got the demo model we took to NAMM that
was completely hand soldered by yours truly! Of course, the first demo
model we took didn't have anything working but flashing lights...


I worked at a studio where we had your product. We often used it for
pre-delay before the plate in the days when seperate boxes did all that.

Cool stuff!


Don

Denny Conn wrote:

Yep, that was us...I've still got the demo model we took to NAMM that
was completely hand soldered by yours truly! Of course, the first demo
model we took didn't have anything working but flashing lights...


The first time I saw the RADAR at the Anatek (?) booth, they said,
"Come back at 3:00. It'll work then."


: )


Don

In article writes:

Well... When you write a DSP algorithm that simulates reverb
with multiple delay lines, you want the delay times to be prime
between themselves, so that the echoes are as dense a possible.

I guess that makes sense. It would keep any of the delay times from
being multiples of each other so you're not duplicating simulated
reflections.


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OSPAM wrote:

1.) Ursa Major Space Station
2.) Publison Infernal Machine

Cooper Time Cube


(For obvious reasons)



Don

wrote in message . com...
"ThePaulThomas" wrote in message
om...
"David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote in message
...
Didn't this have something to do with 'prime' numbers ?

Yes. There was an explanation about it in the "Prime Time 93" manual
but I haven't seen it in a few years and I don't remember what the
story was. I do remember that there was an indicator light on the 93
that would indicate when a prime number was selected by the
millisecond delay setting.

That's as I recall it (albeit hazily), as well. It IS a catchy name for a
product (as the o.p. alluded to), however. A couple other product names
from a bygone era that I've always thought were pretty slick a

1.) Ursa Major Space Station
2.) Publison Infernal Machine

I know a guy that works on a lot of vintage gear and owns a Publison
(not the Infernal Machine though), based on what he says about working
on them I think "Infernal Machine" was an apt title!

Analogeezer