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Dmitri\(Cabling-Design.com\)
 
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Hello everyone!

Hopefully, it is an appropriate NG for the subj. However,
if this is OT here, and there is a better NG, please advise.

I'm running a Win XP application, capable of streaming two completely
separate sound streams through two separate sound cards on the same PC. I do
not need stereo output, so I wondered if someone has seen a driver or
software utility of sorts that would split a regular stereo sound card
(SoundBlaster or anything else to that matter) output into two completely
separate mono channels, visible to the OS as two separate sound cards. Is it
even possible technically?

Any bit of information, URL or opinion will be greatly appreciated.

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"Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)" wrote ...
Hopefully, it is an appropriate NG for the subj. However,
if this is OT here, and there is a better NG, please advise.


There are several soundcard-specific newsgroups.
I'd bet that your chances of find an answer to your
question (if it exists at all) are substantially greater
there than here.

I'm running a Win XP application, capable of streaming
two completely separate sound streams through two
separate sound cards on the same PC. I do not need
stereo output, so I wondered if someone has seen a driver
or software utility of sorts that would split a regular stereo
sound card (SoundBlaster or anything else to that matter)
output into two completely separate mono channels, visible
to the OS as two separate sound cards. Is it even possible
technically?


It is possible technically, but there are so few of you that
need to do such a thing that likely nobody has gone to the
trouble of writing a driver for it. You can't put another
sound card into the computer? You can get them for $10.


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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com) wrote:
Hello everyone!

Hopefully, it is an appropriate NG for the subj. However,
if this is OT here, and there is a better NG, please advise.

I'm running a Win XP application, capable of streaming two completely
separate sound streams through two separate sound cards on the same PC. I do
not need stereo output, so I wondered if someone has seen a driver or
software utility of sorts that would split a regular stereo sound card
(SoundBlaster or anything else to that matter) output into two completely
separate mono channels, visible to the OS as two separate sound cards. Is it
even possible technically?

Any bit of information, URL or opinion will be greatly appreciated.


hm, i'm not sure but it should be no problem to pan one stream left and
the other to the right... or am i wrong?

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"Rolf Ochsenbein" wrote in message
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hm, i'm not sure but it should be no problem to pan one stream left and
the other to the right... or am i wrong?


That would be a simple software solution and using a Y-cable would work for
the hardware portion. If you have a pan control in each program you use you
should be able to set it hard left or right and every thing should work
fine. As far as making the computer believe it's two separate cards, that is
doubtful. Way too many variables and some very low level (even below OS
level) stuff would be needed. There's very strict rules even for using one
soundcard with multiple programs (bit rates much match, etc.). I would try
setting each program's pan to hard the Y-cable solution.


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"Rolf Ochsenbein" wrote in message

Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com) wrote:
Hello everyone!

Hopefully, it is an appropriate NG for the subj. However,
if this is OT here, and there is a better NG, please advise.

I'm running a Win XP application, capable of streaming two completely
separate sound streams through two separate sound cards on the same
PC. I do not need stereo output, so I wondered if someone has seen a
driver or software utility of sorts that would split a regular
stereo sound card (SoundBlaster or anything else to that matter)
output into two completely separate mono channels, visible to the OS
as two separate sound cards. Is it even possible technically?

Any bit of information, URL or opinion will be greatly appreciated.


hm, i'm not sure but it should be no problem to pan one stream left
and the other to the right... or am i wrong?


Right. The other half of the solution is your typical DirectX-supporting
soundcard driver, that allows more than one application to play on a sound
card at a time.




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Thank you very much for all your comments.

My problem is that I do not have two programs trying to use one card but
rather one program trying to use two cards, and the output on both is
stereo, which then in turn has to be mixed to be sent to mono overhead
speakers.
So, my train of thoughts was: why do I have to waste a channel if I can
possibly create two separate sound streams on the left and the right
channels. That would not only save the (relatively moderate) expense on the
second sound card, but also a hassle of actually opening a PC that's on
manufacturer's warranty and installing a new piece of equipment that would
probably nullify the warranty. Has anyone actually installed two sound cards
into a PC? What to look out for when buying the cards?
Thanks for all your suggestions!
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"Rolf Ochsenbein" wrote in message
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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com) wrote:
Hello everyone!

Hopefully, it is an appropriate NG for the subj. However,
if this is OT here, and there is a better NG, please advise.

I'm running a Win XP application, capable of streaming two completely
separate sound streams through two separate sound cards on the same PC.

I do
not need stereo output, so I wondered if someone has seen a driver or
software utility of sorts that would split a regular stereo sound card
(SoundBlaster or anything else to that matter) output into two

completely
separate mono channels, visible to the OS as two separate sound cards.

Is it
even possible technically?

Any bit of information, URL or opinion will be greatly appreciated.


hm, i'm not sure but it should be no problem to pan one stream left and
the other to the right... or am i wrong?

--
http://www.raven.ch/ - - skype: syeo66
Brunnmattstrasse 34 - 3007 Bern
Phone: +41 31 382 32 03 - Mobile: +41 76 373 70 20
PGP-Key:
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"Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)" wrote
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Thank you very much for all your comments.

My problem is that I do not have two programs trying to use one card but
rather one program trying to use two cards, and the output on both is
stereo, which then in turn has to be mixed to be sent to mono overhead
speakers.


What program is it?


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"Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)" wrote in ...
My problem is that I do not have two programs trying to use one card but
rather one program trying to use two cards, and the output on both is
stereo, which then in turn has to be mixed to be sent to mono overhead
speakers.
So, my train of thoughts was: why do I have to waste a channel if I can
possibly create two separate sound streams on the left and the right
channels. That would not only save the (relatively moderate) expense on

the
second sound card, but also a hassle of actually opening a PC that's on
manufacturer's warranty and installing a new piece of equipment that

would
probably nullify the warranty.


What good is a PC whose warranty is violated by
opening it to plug in an I/O card? Yikes, now there
is something to be avoided!


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"Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)" wrote in ...
My problem is that I do not have two programs trying to use one card but
rather one program trying to use two cards, and the output on both is
stereo, which then in turn has to be mixed to be sent to mono overhead
speakers.
So, my train of thoughts was: why do I have to waste a channel if I can
possibly create two separate sound streams on the left and the right
channels. That would not only save the (relatively moderate) expense on

the
second sound card, but also a hassle of actually opening a PC that's on
manufacturer's warranty and installing a new piece of equipment that

would
probably nullify the warranty.


What good is a PC whose warranty is violated by
opening it to plug in an I/O card? Yikes, now there
is something to be avoided!


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On or about Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:14:30 GMT, Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)
allegedly wrote:

Thank you very much for all your comments.

My problem is that I do not have two programs trying to use one card but
rather one program trying to use two cards, and the output on both is
stereo, which then in turn has to be mixed to be sent to mono overhead
speakers.


A card that provides software mixing and presents a couple of software
devices may do it.

For example, the carddeluxe presents its digital and analog ins and outs
as separate devices, and has a mixer function in the driver to assign the
separate ins and outs to the particular hardware interface. So you could
have both the analog and digital devices being sent audio, and it is mixed
together to one or both. Unfortunately it does not provide separate
control for left and right of each stream, so would not immediately serve
your application. There may be other cards that do that, but I'm not
aware of any.

Somehow though, I suspect that you're after a much cheaper solution than a
pro sound card.


Noel Bachelor noelbachelorAT(From:_domain)
Language Recordings Inc (Darwin Australia)


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On or about Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:14:30 GMT, Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)
allegedly wrote:

Thank you very much for all your comments.

My problem is that I do not have two programs trying to use one card but
rather one program trying to use two cards, and the output on both is
stereo, which then in turn has to be mixed to be sent to mono overhead
speakers.


A card that provides software mixing and presents a couple of software
devices may do it.

For example, the carddeluxe presents its digital and analog ins and outs
as separate devices, and has a mixer function in the driver to assign the
separate ins and outs to the particular hardware interface. So you could
have both the analog and digital devices being sent audio, and it is mixed
together to one or both. Unfortunately it does not provide separate
control for left and right of each stream, so would not immediately serve
your application. There may be other cards that do that, but I'm not
aware of any.

Somehow though, I suspect that you're after a much cheaper solution than a
pro sound card.


Noel Bachelor noelbachelorAT(From:_domain)
Language Recordings Inc (Darwin Australia)
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