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Decide, prior to the session, who exactly is going to act as Producer.


Or hire one.


A VERY good idea.

Most experienced producers should be able to save you most of the cost of
their production fees. You might also want to consider hiring an arranger
and session musicians instead of using your live band.

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Bob Olhsson wrote:

"Phil Brown" wrote...


Geoff Wood -nospam wrote:


Decide, prior to the session, who exactly is going to act as Producer.


Or hire one.


A VERY good idea.


Most experienced producers should be able to save you most of the cost of
their production fees.


Agreed. Those who've not been there and done that do not often
understand this, but it's reality. Kind of like the difference in time
it takes a selfbuilder to beget new housing from scratch versus the same
structure delivered by a contractor. If time isn't money, and sometimes
it is not, then DIY is keen; other times time is money and a producer
saves time.

You might also want to consider hiring an arranger
and session musicians instead of using your live band.


The operative word above is "might", IMO. Sometimes it's the obvious and
only hopeful route; other times it's a recipe for disaster, robbing all
the soul from the material's presentation, achieving near perfection
while destroying the soul of the beast.

--
ha
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"hank alrich" wrote in message
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You might also want to consider hiring an arranger
and session musicians instead of using your live band.


The operative word above is "might", IMO. Sometimes it's the obvious and
only hopeful route; other times it's a recipe for disaster, robbing all
the soul from the material's presentation, achieving near perfection
while destroying the soul of the beast.


At this point in time Autotune, Beat Detective, sequencing and inexperienced
editing are lots more likely to rob the soul than session musicians are.
What you are really talking about is overproduction which is what session
musicians have frequently ended up taking the blame for.


--
Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN
Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control
Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined!
615.385.8051 http://www.hyperback.com


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Bob Olhsson wrote:

"hank alrich" wrote...


You might also want to consider hiring an arranger
and session musicians instead of using your live band.


The operative word above is "might", IMO. Sometimes it's the obvious and
only hopeful route; other times it's a recipe for disaster, robbing all
the soul from the material's presentation, achieving near perfection
while destroying the soul of the beast.


At this point in time Autotune, Beat Detective, sequencing and inexperienced
editing are lots more likely to rob the soul than session musicians are.
What you are really talking about is overproduction which is what session
musicians have frequently ended up taking the blame for.


Agreed and understood, but one still must be heads-up, IMO, to make sure
with whom one works understands the source of the music's appeal and
power. I have friends with day jobs now who once spent a small fortune
on bigtime producers who insisted the most soulful singer in the band
didn't cut it; while his pitch was not perfect his delivery was exactly
what had made a large part of many of the band's songs. Nobody remembers
their record now, and for good reason.

I have tremendous respect for session musicians. I also have great
appreciation for intact musical units who have evolved their own thing,
sometimes a thing not easily replicated by studio pros.

--
ha
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Bob Olhsson wrote:

"hank alrich" wrote...


You might also want to consider hiring an arranger
and session musicians instead of using your live band.


The operative word above is "might", IMO. Sometimes it's the obvious and
only hopeful route; other times it's a recipe for disaster, robbing all
the soul from the material's presentation, achieving near perfection
while destroying the soul of the beast.


At this point in time Autotune, Beat Detective, sequencing and inexperienced
editing are lots more likely to rob the soul than session musicians are.
What you are really talking about is overproduction which is what session
musicians have frequently ended up taking the blame for.


Agreed and understood, but one still must be heads-up, IMO, to make sure
with whom one works understands the source of the music's appeal and
power. I have friends with day jobs now who once spent a small fortune
on bigtime producers who insisted the most soulful singer in the band
didn't cut it; while his pitch was not perfect his delivery was exactly
what had made a large part of many of the band's songs. Nobody remembers
their record now, and for good reason.

I have tremendous respect for session musicians. I also have great
appreciation for intact musical units who have evolved their own thing,
sometimes a thing not easily replicated by studio pros.

--
ha


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Bob Olhsson wrote:

"hank alrich" wrote...


You might also want to consider hiring an arranger
and session musicians instead of using your live band.


The operative word above is "might", IMO. Sometimes it's the obvious and
only hopeful route; other times it's a recipe for disaster, robbing all
the soul from the material's presentation, achieving near perfection
while destroying the soul of the beast.


At this point in time Autotune, Beat Detective, sequencing and inexperienced
editing are lots more likely to rob the soul than session musicians are.
What you are really talking about is overproduction which is what session
musicians have frequently ended up taking the blame for.


Agreed and understood, but one still must be heads-up, IMO, to make sure
with whom one works understands the source of the music's appeal and
power. I have friends with day jobs now who once spent a small fortune
on bigtime producers who insisted the most soulful singer in the band
didn't cut it; while his pitch was not perfect his delivery was exactly
what had made a large part of many of the band's songs. Nobody remembers
their record now, and for good reason.

I have tremendous respect for session musicians. I also have great
appreciation for intact musical units who have evolved their own thing,
sometimes a thing not easily replicated by studio pros.

--
ha
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"hank alrich" wrote in message
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You might also want to consider hiring an arranger
and session musicians instead of using your live band.


The operative word above is "might", IMO. Sometimes it's the obvious and
only hopeful route; other times it's a recipe for disaster, robbing all
the soul from the material's presentation, achieving near perfection
while destroying the soul of the beast.


At this point in time Autotune, Beat Detective, sequencing and inexperienced
editing are lots more likely to rob the soul than session musicians are.
What you are really talking about is overproduction which is what session
musicians have frequently ended up taking the blame for.


--
Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN
Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control
Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined!
615.385.8051 http://www.hyperback.com


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"hank alrich" wrote in message
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You might also want to consider hiring an arranger
and session musicians instead of using your live band.


The operative word above is "might", IMO. Sometimes it's the obvious and
only hopeful route; other times it's a recipe for disaster, robbing all
the soul from the material's presentation, achieving near perfection
while destroying the soul of the beast.


At this point in time Autotune, Beat Detective, sequencing and inexperienced
editing are lots more likely to rob the soul than session musicians are.
What you are really talking about is overproduction which is what session
musicians have frequently ended up taking the blame for.


--
Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN
Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control
Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined!
615.385.8051 http://www.hyperback.com


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Bob Olhsson wrote:

"Phil Brown" wrote...


Geoff Wood -nospam wrote:


Decide, prior to the session, who exactly is going to act as Producer.


Or hire one.


A VERY good idea.


Most experienced producers should be able to save you most of the cost of
their production fees.


Agreed. Those who've not been there and done that do not often
understand this, but it's reality. Kind of like the difference in time
it takes a selfbuilder to beget new housing from scratch versus the same
structure delivered by a contractor. If time isn't money, and sometimes
it is not, then DIY is keen; other times time is money and a producer
saves time.

You might also want to consider hiring an arranger
and session musicians instead of using your live band.


The operative word above is "might", IMO. Sometimes it's the obvious and
only hopeful route; other times it's a recipe for disaster, robbing all
the soul from the material's presentation, achieving near perfection
while destroying the soul of the beast.

--
ha
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Bob Olhsson wrote:

"Phil Brown" wrote...


Geoff Wood -nospam wrote:


Decide, prior to the session, who exactly is going to act as Producer.


Or hire one.


A VERY good idea.


Most experienced producers should be able to save you most of the cost of
their production fees.


Agreed. Those who've not been there and done that do not often
understand this, but it's reality. Kind of like the difference in time
it takes a selfbuilder to beget new housing from scratch versus the same
structure delivered by a contractor. If time isn't money, and sometimes
it is not, then DIY is keen; other times time is money and a producer
saves time.

You might also want to consider hiring an arranger
and session musicians instead of using your live band.


The operative word above is "might", IMO. Sometimes it's the obvious and
only hopeful route; other times it's a recipe for disaster, robbing all
the soul from the material's presentation, achieving near perfection
while destroying the soul of the beast.

--
ha


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