I would be curious to know some more exact data on this. I visited the
website, but the article is not very specific. Some graphs would be
nice, so you could see exactly what the "average" hearing loss of an
audio engineer of a certain age comes down to.
If they did the tests, they should have these specs at hand. Why don't
they publish it? It would be extemely interesting! But saying that
audio pros have more hearing loss than other folks is pretty much
stating the obvious. That isn't news, is it?

Ignace Dhont wrote:
I would be curious to know some more exact data on this. I visited the
website, but the article is not very specific. Some graphs would be
nice, so you could see exactly what the "average" hearing loss of an
audio engineer of a certain age comes down to.
If they did the tests, they should have these specs at hand. Why don't
they publish it? It would be extemely interesting! But saying that
audio pros have more hearing loss than other folks is pretty much
stating the obvious. That isn't news, is it?

The House Ear Institute has been doing hearing tests at the AES shows
for years now. Every year they have some charts up showing the summary
results from previous years. I bet they have some of that on their
web site somewhere.
--scott


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Scott Dorsey wrote:


The House Ear Institute has been doing hearing tests at the AES shows
for years now. Every year they have some charts up showing the summary
results from previous years. I bet they have some of that on their
web site somewhere.

This was put up recently on the micbuilders Yahoo group by
one of our members if you want to check your own:

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/wau.../misc/misc.htm

I haven't used it yet so can't address how good it is.


Bob
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simpler."

A. Einstein

Kurt Albershardt wrote:
S O'Neill wrote:

One of the worst things you can do to your hearing is to drive with the
window down. There are huge LF waves set up in your car that you don't
really hear, but the hair cells in your ear get broken as a result.

If you only have one window open and the wind is right, it can make a
sort of 7- or 8-Hz whistle out of the interior, very uncomfortable.

Which is why I've been driving with earplugs for anything over 30 minutes since about age 25.

You drive with earplugs on? Do you also hold a cup of coffee with your
left hand, a cell phone with the right and watch DVDs?

Rob R.

You drive with earplugs on? Do you also hold a cup of coffee with your
left hand, a cell phone with the right and watch DVDs?


Don't forget driving with your knee.


John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637

Rob Reedijk wrote:
Kurt Albershardt wrote:

S O'Neill wrote:


One of the worst things you can do to your hearing is to drive with the
window down. There are huge LF waves set up in your car that you don't
really hear, but the hair cells in your ear get broken as a result.

If you only have one window open and the wind is right, it can make a
sort of 7- or 8-Hz whistle out of the interior, very uncomfortable.


Which is why I've been driving with earplugs for anything over 30 minutes since about age 25.


You drive with earplugs on?

On long trips in the truck, definitely. I can still converse with my wife (alo wearing plugs now.)

Try it sometime. Turn up the CD player a little louder than normal and it's actually quite pleasant.




Do you also hold a cup of coffee with your
left hand, a cell phone with the right and watch DVDs?

Don't drink coffee.

Use an earset for the cellphone (removing one earplug.)

No DVD player in the truck (no kids.)

Blind Joni wrote:

You drive with earplugs on? Do you also hold a cup of coffee with your
left hand, a cell phone with the right and watch DVDs?


Don't forget driving with your knee.

Only in the Subaru.

Hey, with that much going on it is the ONLY way.

--
Chip Wood

"Blind Joni" wrote in message
You drive with earplugs on? Do you also hold a cup of
coffee with your
left hand, a cell phone with the right and watch DVDs?


Don't forget driving with your knee.

Rob Reedijk wrote:

You drive with earplugs on? Do you also hold a cup of coffee with your
left hand, a cell phone with the right and watch DVDs?

No he doesn't, based on my experience. He's a rather conscientious
driver, and his hearing acuity is outstanding. He doesn't drink coffee,
and he's left all his new unopened DVD's with me because he doesn't have
time to watch them. Anything elese you need to know about Kurt?

--
ha

Kurt Albershardt wrote ...

One of the worst things you can do to your hearing is to drive with the
window down. There are huge LF waves set up in your car that you don't
really hear, but the hair cells in your ear get broken as a result.

If you only have one window open and the wind is right, it can make a
sort of 7- or 8-Hz whistle out of the interior, very uncomfortable.


Which is why I've been driving with earplugs for anything over 30 minutes since about age 25.

You know you should wear ear plugs when you eat breakfast too. Those
snap crackle pops sounds are known to cause catastrophic high
frequency hearing loss as well as severe psychological trauma.

(unitron) wrote in message . com...
If you are, in
fact, one who plays drums (or any other instrument for that matter) do
whatever is necessary to protect your ears and don't apologise for it,
but let the first thing you try be getting the entire band to play
less loudly and, in the unlikely event that you can convince them to
do so, you'll have done your fellow musicians and your audience a
service as well as yourself.

Yeah, trying telling that to the brass section standing behind you when
you're a sax player. "Down", "mezzo-piano", "soft", etc. are not in most
lip-flappers' vocabularies. Lotta deef sax players and orchestral woodwind
players out there...

-DrBoom

(DrBoom) wrote in message om...

Yeah, trying telling that to the brass section standing behind you when
you're a sax player. "Down", "mezzo-piano", "soft", etc. are not in most
lip-flappers' vocabularies. Lotta deef sax players and orchestral woodwind
players out there...

Yeah, yeah, and "in tune" isn't in most reed slobberers' vocab....
;-)

Seriously, I'm a trumpet player & I can sympathize. This should be
taken into consideration by band leaders, who might try alternate
seating configurations. The fact is, a lot of charts call for
blastissimo, the loud 'n high brass is what makes the sound. Besides
rearranging the seating, this is a good argument for having the
trumpet section stand, to get those ahead of them out of the direct
line of fire.

I always hate being in front of the drummer for the same reason. I
can't believe anyone can play drums for any length of time & retain
their hearing. When in the service, I always wore earplugs when
marching. It makes your own playing sound weird but it saves your
hearing.

(HiC) wrote in message om...
(DrBoom) wrote in message om...

Yeah, trying telling that to the brass section standing behind you when
you're a sax player. "Down", "mezzo-piano", "soft", etc. are not in most
lip-flappers' vocabularies. Lotta deef sax players and orchestral woodwind
players out there...

Yeah, yeah, and "in tune" isn't in most reed slobberers' vocab....
;-)

Three words: trombone, french horn. :P

Seriously, I'm a trumpet player & I can sympathize. This should be
taken into consideration by band leaders, who might try alternate
seating configurations. The fact is, a lot of charts call for
blastissimo, the loud 'n high brass is what makes the sound.

"Blastissimo" -- great word! I played low brass for a few years,
and we called tuba/baritone version a "blatt". It turns out that
the combination of over-the-shoulder marching tuba and deep
mouthpiece is one of the loudest devices this side of nuclear
weapons testing.

Besides
rearranging the seating, this is a good argument for having the
trumpet section stand, to get those ahead of them out of the direct
line of fire.

It helps a little, but not that much. What they need to do is issue
Dizzy Gillespie trumpets to keep innocent bystanders out of the
line of fire.

I always hate being in front of the drummer for the same reason. I
can't believe anyone can play drums for any length of time & retain
their hearing. When in the service, I always wore earplugs when
marching. It makes your own playing sound weird but it saves your
hearing.

Anyone who thinks a rock band is the loudest thing going has never
played in a drum & bugle corps. The "stage" volume levels are insane,
and it's not like you can turn down the monitor sends. OTOH, there's
nothing quite like being in the middle of a really tight 100+ piece
band doing a good arrangement of "Firebird" at triple blastissimo.

Former band geek,
-DrBoom

I agree with wearing earplugs while driving , and in many other situations
things are often plenty loud enough with them in [ what does that tell you ?
]
Often makes sleeping easier too
regards Greg



hank alrich wrote:

Rob Reedijk wrote:

You drive with earplugs on? Do you also hold a cup of coffee with your
left hand, a cell phone with the right and watch DVDs?

No he doesn't, based on my experience. He's a rather conscientious
driver, and his hearing acuity is outstanding. He doesn't drink coffee,
and he's left all his new unopened DVD's with me because he doesn't have
time to watch them. Anything elese you need to know about Kurt?

--
ha

I agree with wearing earplugs while driving , and in many other situations
things are often plenty loud enough with them in [ what does that tell you ?
]
Often makes sleeping easier too
regards Greg



hank alrich wrote:

Rob Reedijk wrote:

You drive with earplugs on? Do you also hold a cup of coffee with your
left hand, a cell phone with the right and watch DVDs?

No he doesn't, based on my experience. He's a rather conscientious
driver, and his hearing acuity is outstanding. He doesn't drink coffee,
and he's left all his new unopened DVD's with me because he doesn't have
time to watch them. Anything elese you need to know about Kurt?

--
ha

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On 2004-05-07 (BlindJoni) said:
You drive with earplugs on? Do you also hold a cup of coffee with
your left hand, a cell phone with the right and watch DVDs?
Don't forget driving with your knee.
HEy I used to deliver newspapers with a guy who could fold and bag
newspapers while driving with his knee. WOrked good for rolling a
number too.



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