"MINe 109" wrote in message


Studio monitors would be a bad choice for the OP. He wants a
floorstander roughly equivalent to his KEF 104s and prefers classical
music.

Agreed.

Monitors are often meant for tabletop positioning

But a number of manufacturers on my list such as Dynaudio, JBL Pro, and
Tannoy also make floorstanders.

and have frequency responses bumps to exaggerate recording/production
flaws

Given that my list included about 20 different brands, some do have
intentially peaked up response, most don't.

One exception (of many) would be the BBC monitors available in the UK
by various makers: Rogers, etc.

Like you say, there are many exceptions to the idea that all studio monitors
aren't floorstanders, or that they have deliberately peaked up response.

For example, I've heard the Behringer B2031A speakers that I mentioned,
mounted on speaker stands. They sounded warm and well-balanced, like many
floorstanders. They are also reasonably smooth.

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"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message


Studio monitors would be a bad choice for the OP. He wants a
floorstander roughly equivalent to his KEF 104s and prefers classical
music.

Agreed.

Monitors are often meant for tabletop positioning

But a number of manufacturers on my list such as Dynaudio, JBL Pro, and
Tannoy also make floorstanders.

Dunno if the floorstanding studio monitor is a big market segment.
Haven't noticed any in the pro shops.

The OP has already investigated Dynaudio. IIRC, Tannoys, depending on
the model, favor near-wall placement.

and have frequency responses bumps to exaggerate recording/production
flaws

Given that my list included about 20 different brands, some do have
intentially peaked up response, most don't.

But of course.

One exception (of many) would be the BBC monitors available in the UK
by various makers: Rogers, etc.

Like you say, there are many exceptions to the idea that all studio monitors
aren't floorstanders, or that they have deliberately peaked up response.

For example, I've heard the Behringer B2031A speakers that I mentioned,
mounted on speaker stands. They sounded warm and well-balanced, like many
floorstanders. They are also reasonably smooth.

I enjoy an inexpensive pro-style monitoring system for casual listening
in a room that requires bookshelf positioning, but I doubt that
Behringer would be an improvement over the KEF 104. It's too bad he
isn't interested in electrostatic or planar speakers.

Stephen

PS I forget Focal-JM Lab!: "The beryllium dome represents a quantum
advance in tweeter technology".

"MINe 109" wrote
PS I forget Focal-JM Lab!: "The beryllium dome represents a quantum
advance in tweeter technology".

Duhhh, didn't the seminal Yamaha NS-1000M use a beryllium tweeter?

(Still remember listening at nearly top volume to Metallica "One" on
NS-1000Ms with a Quad 606 in the late 80s in the dem room at Chatham
Sevenoaks Hi-Fi, where I had a part-time job back then, after we'd
shut the shop. Our ears nearly bled!)


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk

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"Fleetie" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote
PS I forget Focal-JM Lab!: "The beryllium dome represents a quantum
advance in tweeter technology".

Duhhh, didn't the seminal Yamaha NS-1000M use a beryllium tweeter?

This one's new. ;-)

I assume the Focal is a new driver. The quote's a little out of context.

(Still remember listening at nearly top volume to Metallica "One" on
NS-1000Ms with a Quad 606 in the late 80s in the dem room at Chatham
Sevenoaks Hi-Fi, where I had a part-time job back then, after we'd
shut the shop. Our ears nearly bled!)

I've seen them, but have never heard them.

Stephen

"MINe 109" wrote
(Still remember listening at nearly top volume to Metallica "One" on
NS-1000Ms with a Quad 606 in the late 80s in the dem room at Chatham
Sevenoaks Hi-Fi, where I had a part-time job back then, after we'd
shut the shop. Our ears nearly bled!)

I've seen them, but have never heard them.

They (NS-1000M) were noted for being efficient *and* being able to take
high power.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:52:10 GMT, "Fleetie"
wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote
(Still remember listening at nearly top volume to Metallica "One" on
NS-1000Ms with a Quad 606 in the late 80s in the dem room at Chatham
Sevenoaks Hi-Fi, where I had a part-time job back then, after we'd
shut the shop. Our ears nearly bled!)

I've seen them, but have never heard them.

They (NS-1000M) were noted for being efficient *and* being able to take
high power.

Yep, one of the truly great speakers. I wish I'd been able to afford
to keep mine. AFAIK, they still make them for the Japanese market.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:12:42 GMT, "Fleetie"
wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote
PS I forget Focal-JM Lab!: "The beryllium dome represents a quantum
advance in tweeter technology".

Duhhh, didn't the seminal Yamaha NS-1000M use a beryllium tweeter?

And a beryllium midrange!

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

MINe 109 wrote:
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"Arny Krueger" wrote:


"MINe 109" wrote in message



Studio monitors would be a bad choice for the OP. He wants a
floorstander roughly equivalent to his KEF 104s and prefers classical
music.

Agreed.


Monitors are often meant for tabletop positioning

But a number of manufacturers on my list such as Dynaudio, JBL Pro, and
Tannoy also make floorstanders.


Dunno if the floorstanding studio monitor is a big market segment.
Haven't noticed any in the pro shops.

The OP has already investigated Dynaudio. IIRC, Tannoys, depending on
the model, favor near-wall placement.


and have frequency responses bumps to exaggerate recording/production
flaws

Given that my list included about 20 different brands, some do have
intentially peaked up response, most don't.


But of course.


One exception (of many) would be the BBC monitors available in the UK
by various makers: Rogers, etc.

Like you say, there are many exceptions to the idea that all studio monitors
aren't floorstanders, or that they have deliberately peaked up response.

For example, I've heard the Behringer B2031A speakers that I mentioned,
mounted on speaker stands. They sounded warm and well-balanced, like many
floorstanders. They are also reasonably smooth.


I enjoy an inexpensive pro-style monitoring system for casual listening
in a room that requires bookshelf positioning, but I doubt that
Behringer would be an improvement over the KEF 104. It's too bad he
isn't interested in electrostatic or planar speakers.

François-Yves Le Gal has just made a comment on a french NG about :
http://www.behringer.com/B2031A/index.cfm?lang=FRE
An exiting experience.


Stephen

PS I forget Focal-JM Lab!: "The beryllium dome represents a quantum
advance in tweeter technology".

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MINe 109 wrote:
For example, I've heard the Behringer B2031A speakers that I
mentioned, mounted on speaker stands. They sounded warm and
well-balanced, like many floorstanders. They are also reasonably
smooth.

I enjoy an inexpensive pro-style monitoring system for casual listening
in a room that requires bookshelf positioning, but I doubt that
Behringer would be an improvement over the KEF 104. It's too bad he
isn't interested in electrostatic or planar speakers.

If Behringer have produced a pair of speakers to equal the 104s at their
usual budget price, I'd be amazed. My limited experience of their products
is that it's decent value for money, but little else.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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