"Peter Larsen" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

There are different kinds of distortion that matter differently, so
mere percentage math may not apply.

If you compare like forms of distortion, the SBLive outperforms most
if not all vinyl playback systems.

Hmmm ... well, I did get some fine recordings of FM radio via my K7S5A
mobo's AC97, so you could be right.

Anyway, would you - or any other - by any chance know something about
the Technics SU-9011 preamp? - just got me one (package deal with
poweramp, no way to avoid pre!).

I only know that it existed back in the days of, but I never even ever saw
one. Since it's legacy equipment, the checkout is everything.

"Jimbo" wrote in message
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So if I understand you correctly Arny, are you saying I should use
the phono pre amp and then output to a stereo preamp and then to the
Mia24?

Would I notice an improvement over the Turtle Beach SC if I
upgraded to a Mia24?

I don't think so. Not if you fully exploit the SC.

OK, sounds good Arny, but what do you mean by "fully exploit" the
Santa Cruz card?

Optimize the levels coming into the card. Many of the cards I tested for
PCAVTech had "sweet spots" for recording, in terms of the audio level coming
into the card. Noise would be minimum only with some combination of mixer
controls.

This is more true with other cards than the Santa Cruz.

For example, a lot of modern cards only deliver optimum noise performance if
you drive them with a signal voltage that is so high, the input level
control is set to absolute minimum or one step above absolute minimum.

What I mean is would just following the directions
of my recording/editing program be enough, or is there some
arcane/undocumented set-up mojo that would need to be done?

I'd start out with setting the relevant controls on the recording mixer
mid-scale and measure noise using the Audio Rightmark program, and go from
there.

http://audio.rightmark.org/

Finally, what about using the Bottlehead Seduction kit
http://www.bottlehead.com/et/adobesp.../seduction.htm and
their Foreplay Line Stage
http://www.bottlehead.com/et/adobesp..._stage_kit.htm
..

No experience.

"Jimbo" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Jimbo" wrote in message
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So if I understand you correctly Arny, are you saying I should use
the phono pre amp and then output to a stereo preamp and then to the
Mia24?

Would I notice an improvement over the Turtle Beach SC if I
upgraded to a Mia24?

I don't think so. Not if you fully exploit the SC.

OK, sounds good Arny, but what do you mean by "fully exploit" the
Santa Cruz card?

Optimize the levels coming into the card. Many of the cards I tested for
PCAVTech had "sweet spots" for recording, in terms of the audio level coming
into the card. Noise would be minimum only with some combination of mixer
controls.

This is more true with other cards than the Santa Cruz.

For example, a lot of modern cards only deliver optimum noise performance if
you drive them with a signal voltage that is so high, the input level
control is set to absolute minimum or one step above absolute minimum.

What I mean is would just following the directions
of my recording/editing program be enough, or is there some
arcane/undocumented set-up mojo that would need to be done?

I'd start out with setting the relevant controls on the recording mixer
mid-scale and measure noise using the Audio Rightmark program, and go from
there.

http://audio.rightmark.org/

Finally, what about using the Bottlehead Seduction kit
http://www.bottlehead.com/et/adobesp.../seduction.htm and
their Foreplay Line Stage
http://www.bottlehead.com/et/adobesp..._stage_kit.htm
..

No experience.

Arny Krueger wrote:

Anyway, would you - or any other - by any chance know something about
the Technics SU-9011 preamp? - just got me one (package deal with
poweramp, no way to avoid pre!).

I only know that it existed back in the days of, but I never even ever saw
one. Since it's legacy equipment, the checkout is everything.

Oh, it is not broken - it is just that it appears to be amazingly
transparent when used as a line amp. Next comes testing its riaa - it
even has a MC stage and only opamps are SIL's in the tone control stage.

I do like high output MC's but having the option of trying a low output
one is nice and this could be a great preamp if the phono preamp section
holds what the line amp promises.

What I do not understand is that I hadn't heard about it and the SE-9021
power amp back in 1979, this set is sure better than what was "de la
mode" here in Copenhagen back then.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen


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Arny Krueger wrote:

Anyway, would you - or any other - by any chance know something about
the Technics SU-9011 preamp? - just got me one (package deal with
poweramp, no way to avoid pre!).

I only know that it existed back in the days of, but I never even ever saw
one. Since it's legacy equipment, the checkout is everything.

Oh, it is not broken - it is just that it appears to be amazingly
transparent when used as a line amp. Next comes testing its riaa - it
even has a MC stage and only opamps are SIL's in the tone control stage.

I do like high output MC's but having the option of trying a low output
one is nice and this could be a great preamp if the phono preamp section
holds what the line amp promises.

What I do not understand is that I hadn't heard about it and the SE-9021
power amp back in 1979, this set is sure better than what was "de la
mode" here in Copenhagen back then.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen


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* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
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