I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.

EBG wrote:

I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.

I'll rate it at "near audiophile quality": Midiman Delta Audiophile
2496, there are things that those who like to solder on the flank of
diminishing returns would like to do something about and there is room
on the card to actually do them, but really it is an OK product as is.
No doubt there are many other good products out there, but at least here
in Denmark it (and other Midiman cards) currently has a very competitive
retail price and at DKK 1350 including VAT there is no competition.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

EBG wrote:

I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.

I'll rate it at "near audiophile quality": Midiman Delta Audiophile
2496, there are things that those who like to solder on the flank of
diminishing returns would like to do something about and there is room
on the card to actually do them, but really it is an OK product as is.
No doubt there are many other good products out there, but at least here
in Denmark it (and other Midiman cards) currently has a very competitive
retail price and at DKK 1350 including VAT there is no competition.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:40:22 -0500, EBG wrote:
I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.

Get a soundcard with an s/pdif output like the hoontech i-phone and
use an external d/a if you want audiophile quality.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:40:22 -0500, EBG wrote:
I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.

Get a soundcard with an s/pdif output like the hoontech i-phone and
use an external d/a if you want audiophile quality.

EBG wrote:
I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.



I'm very happy with my RME DIGI96/8 PST. Quality of sound through my
Cyrus amp is better than from my Cyrus CD player.

It is stereo (2-channel) only; I too was looking to get the best quality
without paying for lots of extras. It was also discontinued when I
bought it, so I got a good price.

The up-and-coming RME series now seems to be the Hamerfall series.

--
Nick H (UK)

EBG wrote:
I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.



I'm very happy with my RME DIGI96/8 PST. Quality of sound through my
Cyrus amp is better than from my Cyrus CD player.

It is stereo (2-channel) only; I too was looking to get the best quality
without paying for lots of extras. It was also discontinued when I
bought it, so I got a good price.

The up-and-coming RME series now seems to be the Hamerfall series.

--
Nick H (UK)

Get a soundcard with an s/pdif output like the hoontech i-phone and
use an external d/a if you want audiophile quality.

That's what I was thinking...I don't see how any of these can perform well
in such a noisy environment.

I'm out to lunch on this whole thing though...if I'm dealing with wav files,
the d/a chip would have to be managed by some wav software or is the wav
output the same as a CD player? (Or do the external processors let you
configure them for both?)

If I remember right the wav format is pretty similar to cd's isn't it? is
it the SAME sampling rate?

Can you give me some specific model #'s on a card like this and an outboard
d/a processor like you're talking about?

THANKS

Get a soundcard with an s/pdif output like the hoontech i-phone and
use an external d/a if you want audiophile quality.

That's what I was thinking...I don't see how any of these can perform well
in such a noisy environment.

I'm out to lunch on this whole thing though...if I'm dealing with wav files,
the d/a chip would have to be managed by some wav software or is the wav
output the same as a CD player? (Or do the external processors let you
configure them for both?)

If I remember right the wav format is pretty similar to cd's isn't it? is
it the SAME sampling rate?

Can you give me some specific model #'s on a card like this and an outboard
d/a processor like you're talking about?

THANKS

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:36:45 -0500, EBG wrote:

Get a soundcard with an s/pdif output like the hoontech i-phone and
use an external d/a if you want audiophile quality.

That's what I was thinking...I don't see how any of these can perform well
in such a noisy environment.

Noise is irrelevent in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to introduce
itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce errors would keep
your computer from functioning in the first place. Move the computer a
few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll be OK.




I'm out to lunch on this whole thing though...if I'm dealing with wav files,
the d/a chip would have to be managed by some wav software or is the wav
output the same as a CD player? (Or do the external processors let you
configure them for both?)

If I remember right the wav format is pretty similar to cd's isn't it? is
it the SAME sampling rate?

it can be any sampling rate and in mono. Stereo wav @ 44.1khz is the same
as CD audio.

Can you give me some specific model #'s on a card like this and an outboard
d/a processor like you're talking about?
do a websearch search for external d/a

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:36:45 -0500, EBG wrote:

Get a soundcard with an s/pdif output like the hoontech i-phone and
use an external d/a if you want audiophile quality.

That's what I was thinking...I don't see how any of these can perform well
in such a noisy environment.

Noise is irrelevent in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to introduce
itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce errors would keep
your computer from functioning in the first place. Move the computer a
few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll be OK.




I'm out to lunch on this whole thing though...if I'm dealing with wav files,
the d/a chip would have to be managed by some wav software or is the wav
output the same as a CD player? (Or do the external processors let you
configure them for both?)

If I remember right the wav format is pretty similar to cd's isn't it? is
it the SAME sampling rate?

it can be any sampling rate and in mono. Stereo wav @ 44.1khz is the same
as CD audio.

Can you give me some specific model #'s on a card like this and an outboard
d/a processor like you're talking about?
do a websearch search for external d/a

On 16 Nov 2003 16:34:28 GMT, TCS
wrote:

Noise is irrelevent in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to introduce
itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce errors would keep
your computer from functioning in the first place. Move the computer a
few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll be OK.

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.

On 16 Nov 2003 16:34:28 GMT, TCS
wrote:

Noise is irrelevent in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to introduce
itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce errors would keep
your computer from functioning in the first place. Move the computer a
few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll be OK.

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.

Was actually talking about the analog portion on the sound card.

Makes sense to keep it all digital and then do something outboard.......I
ran into some USB devices I didn't even knew existed......the extigy
external and so on.

Think I may do my own with the PCM7209 chip (and a die cast enclosure)?

Anyone else try this?




"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message
...
EBG wrote:
I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc
and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.



I'm very happy with my RME DIGI96/8 PST. Quality of sound through my
Cyrus amp is better than from my Cyrus CD player.

It is stereo (2-channel) only; I too was looking to get the best quality
without paying for lots of extras. It was also discontinued when I
bought it, so I got a good price.

The up-and-coming RME series now seems to be the Hamerfall series.

--
Nick H (UK)

Was actually talking about the analog portion on the sound card.

Makes sense to keep it all digital and then do something outboard.......I
ran into some USB devices I didn't even knew existed......the extigy
external and so on.

Think I may do my own with the PCM7209 chip (and a die cast enclosure)?

Anyone else try this?




"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message
...
EBG wrote:
I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc
and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.



I'm very happy with my RME DIGI96/8 PST. Quality of sound through my
Cyrus amp is better than from my Cyrus CD player.

It is stereo (2-channel) only; I too was looking to get the best quality
without paying for lots of extras. It was also discontinued when I
bought it, so I got a good price.

The up-and-coming RME series now seems to be the Hamerfall series.

--
Nick H (UK)

Laurence Payne wrote:

Noise is irrelevent in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to introduce
itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce errors would keep
your computer from functioning in the first place. Move the computer a
few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll be OK.

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.

I stand by my suggestion.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen


--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

Laurence Payne wrote:

Noise is irrelevent in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to introduce
itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce errors would keep
your computer from functioning in the first place. Move the computer a
few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll be OK.

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.

I stand by my suggestion.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen


--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:36:46 +0000, Laurence Payne wrote:
On 16 Nov 2003 16:34:28 GMT, TCS
wrote:

Noise is irrelevent in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to introduce
itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce errors would keep
your computer from functioning in the first place. Move the computer a
few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll be OK.

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.
You're a ****ing idiot.

Can you tell the difference between 0101010111010101010101010101
and 0101010111010101010101010101?

No difference. None at all. Noise hadn't the slightest effect as it
wasn't strong enough to flip any of those bits.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:36:46 +0000, Laurence Payne wrote:
On 16 Nov 2003 16:34:28 GMT, TCS
wrote:

Noise is irrelevent in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to introduce
itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce errors would keep
your computer from functioning in the first place. Move the computer a
few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll be OK.

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.
You're a ****ing idiot.

Can you tell the difference between 0101010111010101010101010101
and 0101010111010101010101010101?

No difference. None at all. Noise hadn't the slightest effect as it
wasn't strong enough to flip any of those bits.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:57:24 +0100, Peter Larsen
wrote:


Noise is irrelevent in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to introduce
itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce errors would keep
your computer from functioning in the first place. Move the computer a
few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll be OK.

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.

I stand by my suggestion.

You tend to, Peter :-)

I've no argument with the Audiophile. It's what I'd have suggested.

The Audiophile's a nice quiet card, as such go. Connect it to your
mixer, crank the gain up. You'll hear a quite different sort of mush
and rubbish to what you'd hear if there were no computers involved.

It will, however, be many dB below what you's hear from a tape playing
back "silence".

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:57:24 +0100, Peter Larsen
wrote:


Noise is irrelevent in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to introduce
itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce errors would keep
your computer from functioning in the first place. Move the computer a
few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll be OK.

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.

I stand by my suggestion.

You tend to, Peter :-)

I've no argument with the Audiophile. It's what I'd have suggested.

The Audiophile's a nice quiet card, as such go. Connect it to your
mixer, crank the gain up. You'll hear a quite different sort of mush
and rubbish to what you'd hear if there were no computers involved.

It will, however, be many dB below what you's hear from a tape playing
back "silence".

On 16 Nov 2003 20:16:35 GMT, TCS
wrote:

You're a ****ing idiot.

Can you tell the difference between 0101010111010101010101010101
and 0101010111010101010101010101?

No difference. None at all. Noise hadn't the slightest effect as it
wasn't strong enough to flip any of those bits.

And you're a bigger one.

No, of course I can't hear that difference. My ears aren't digital.
I CAN, however, hear the noise floor of a digital system when
converted to hearable analogue. Which is what matters.

P.S. Your mother shags goats :-) Your turn.

On 16 Nov 2003 20:16:35 GMT, TCS
wrote:

You're a ****ing idiot.

Can you tell the difference between 0101010111010101010101010101
and 0101010111010101010101010101?

No difference. None at all. Noise hadn't the slightest effect as it
wasn't strong enough to flip any of those bits.

And you're a bigger one.

No, of course I can't hear that difference. My ears aren't digital.
I CAN, however, hear the noise floor of a digital system when
converted to hearable analogue. Which is what matters.

P.S. Your mother shags goats :-) Your turn.

EBG wrote:

Was actually talking about the analog portion on the sound card.

I don't think we are at cross purposes; I am talking about playing .WAV
etc files on the PC with the soundcard's stereo out (analogue) connected
to a Hifi line in. IE using the DAC on the card.

I use both analogue and digital inputs to the card. I haven't used the
digital output as yet as I don't have an external DAC (well, to be
pedantic, I could feed it through a MiniDisc deck which would do the job
but...).


Makes sense to keep it all digital and then do something outboard.......I
ran into some USB devices I didn't even knew existed......the extigy
external and so on.

Think I may do my own with the PCM7209 chip (and a die cast enclosure)?

Anyone else try this?




"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message
...

EBG wrote:

I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc

and

interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.




I'm very happy with my RME DIGI96/8 PST. Quality of sound through my
Cyrus amp is better than from my Cyrus CD player.

It is stereo (2-channel) only; I too was looking to get the best quality
without paying for lots of extras. It was also discontinued when I
bought it, so I got a good price.

The up-and-coming RME series now seems to be the Hamerfall series.

--
Nick H (UK)






--
Nick H (UK)

EBG wrote:

Was actually talking about the analog portion on the sound card.

I don't think we are at cross purposes; I am talking about playing .WAV
etc files on the PC with the soundcard's stereo out (analogue) connected
to a Hifi line in. IE using the DAC on the card.

I use both analogue and digital inputs to the card. I haven't used the
digital output as yet as I don't have an external DAC (well, to be
pedantic, I could feed it through a MiniDisc deck which would do the job
but...).


Makes sense to keep it all digital and then do something outboard.......I
ran into some USB devices I didn't even knew existed......the extigy
external and so on.

Think I may do my own with the PCM7209 chip (and a die cast enclosure)?

Anyone else try this?




"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message
...

EBG wrote:

I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc

and

interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.




I'm very happy with my RME DIGI96/8 PST. Quality of sound through my
Cyrus amp is better than from my Cyrus CD player.

It is stereo (2-channel) only; I too was looking to get the best quality
without paying for lots of extras. It was also discontinued when I
bought it, so I got a good price.

The up-and-coming RME series now seems to be the Hamerfall series.

--
Nick H (UK)






--
Nick H (UK)

Laurence Payne wrote:

The Audiophile's a nice quiet card, as such go. Connect it to your
mixer, crank the gain up. You'll hear a quite different sort of mush
and rubbish to what you'd hear if there were no computers involved.

Ah yes. Midiman do specify about 8 dB better SNR for the cards with a
break out box.

It will, however, be many dB below what you's hear from a tape playing
back "silence".

The difference between -101 and -109 dB .... if one wants to really be
audiophilistic then there is also the option for worrying about that
difference in noise level indicating distortion due to the RF field
inside the computer. It was however also the difference between the
sound hardware I found affordable and the one I didn't find affordable.

What I don't know - perhaps Arny can comment on this - is whether adding
some kind of "dummy pci-card" above the sound card will be an advantage.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen


--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

Laurence Payne wrote:

The Audiophile's a nice quiet card, as such go. Connect it to your
mixer, crank the gain up. You'll hear a quite different sort of mush
and rubbish to what you'd hear if there were no computers involved.

Ah yes. Midiman do specify about 8 dB better SNR for the cards with a
break out box.

It will, however, be many dB below what you's hear from a tape playing
back "silence".

The difference between -101 and -109 dB .... if one wants to really be
audiophilistic then there is also the option for worrying about that
difference in noise level indicating distortion due to the RF field
inside the computer. It was however also the difference between the
sound hardware I found affordable and the one I didn't find affordable.

What I don't know - perhaps Arny can comment on this - is whether adding
some kind of "dummy pci-card" above the sound card will be an advantage.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen


--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message

On 16 Nov 2003 16:34:28 GMT, TCS
wrote:

Noise is irrelevant in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to
introduce itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce
errors would keep your computer from functioning in the first place.
Move the computer a few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll
be OK.

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.

Well, if that sound card is a LynxTWO, which does have its converters inside
the PC, what you *hear* is noise about 120 dB below peak level. IOW you
don't hear squat! Furthermore, you've got to search all over to find a
power amp that is anywhere near as quiet as the sound card. They exist, but
they cost the big bucks, and even some expensive ones aren't good enough.

The idea that PC sound cards can be noisy is true, because there is a lot of
crap out there that is palmed off as PC sound.

The idea that PC sound cards have to be noisy because the PC is an
electrically noisy place can easily be shown to be false. You just have to
spend a little money. People seem to think that the inside of a CD player or
a DAC is somehow sanctified, I guess. It's electrically noisy inside them,
as well.

If you want to get good sound out of a PC and not spend a lot of bucks, try
a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz. If you want to spend a few more bucks, there is
always the M-Audio Revolution, and for more bucks the Audiophile 2496, and
Echo Mia. If you want to spend even more bucks and get even better
performance there is the Card Deluxe. And if you've some serious money to
spend and want something that has truly amazing performance, get a Lynx L22
or LynxTWO.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message

On 16 Nov 2003 16:34:28 GMT, TCS
wrote:

Noise is irrelevant in the digital domain. RFI strong enough to
introduce itself onto an s/pdif signal strong enough to introduce
errors would keep your computer from functioning in the first place.
Move the computer a few feet from that 200KW arc welder and you'll
be OK.

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.

Well, if that sound card is a LynxTWO, which does have its converters inside
the PC, what you *hear* is noise about 120 dB below peak level. IOW you
don't hear squat! Furthermore, you've got to search all over to find a
power amp that is anywhere near as quiet as the sound card. They exist, but
they cost the big bucks, and even some expensive ones aren't good enough.

The idea that PC sound cards can be noisy is true, because there is a lot of
crap out there that is palmed off as PC sound.

The idea that PC sound cards have to be noisy because the PC is an
electrically noisy place can easily be shown to be false. You just have to
spend a little money. People seem to think that the inside of a CD player or
a DAC is somehow sanctified, I guess. It's electrically noisy inside them,
as well.

If you want to get good sound out of a PC and not spend a lot of bucks, try
a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz. If you want to spend a few more bucks, there is
always the M-Audio Revolution, and for more bucks the Audiophile 2496, and
Echo Mia. If you want to spend even more bucks and get even better
performance there is the Card Deluxe. And if you've some serious money to
spend and want something that has truly amazing performance, get a Lynx L22
or LynxTWO.

Echo MIA. Nice balanced I/O and has coax SPDIF also.

I hook the digital i/o to a Lucid ADA 1000 as an external A/D-D/A - also
very nice.

Rocky


"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
EBG wrote:

I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc
and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.

I'll rate it at "near audiophile quality": Midiman Delta Audiophile
2496, there are things that those who like to solder on the flank of
diminishing returns would like to do something about and there is room
on the card to actually do them, but really it is an OK product as is.
No doubt there are many other good products out there, but at least here
in Denmark it (and other Midiman cards) currently has a very competitive
retail price and at DKK 1350 including VAT there is no competition.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

Echo MIA. Nice balanced I/O and has coax SPDIF also.

I hook the digital i/o to a Lucid ADA 1000 as an external A/D-D/A - also
very nice.

Rocky


"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
EBG wrote:

I'm wanting to play wav files I've accumulated on a dedicated audio pc
and
interface to my audio system.

My question is this....

Is there a sound card anyone can recommend that has state of the art d/a
onboard that doesn't have all the gaming and 3d crap, inputs, etc.

Just audiophile quality and RCA line outputs are fine.

I'll rate it at "near audiophile quality": Midiman Delta Audiophile
2496, there are things that those who like to solder on the flank of
diminishing returns would like to do something about and there is room
on the card to actually do them, but really it is an OK product as is.
No doubt there are many other good products out there, but at least here
in Denmark it (and other Midiman cards) currently has a very competitive
retail price and at DKK 1350 including VAT there is no competition.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On 16 Nov 2003 16:34:28 GMT, TCS
wrote:

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.

Birds chirping, dogs barking, but nary a squeak from the soundcard :-)
I suggest you get a decent card from Echo, DAL etc. if you can hear noise
from yours.

TonyP.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On 16 Nov 2003 16:34:28 GMT, TCS
wrote:

Fine, if your ears function in the digital domain. As they don't,
crank up the output from any sound card you choose while playing
"silence". Tell us what you hear.

Birds chirping, dogs barking, but nary a squeak from the soundcard :-)
I suggest you get a decent card from Echo, DAL etc. if you can hear noise
from yours.

TonyP.