I was recording gospel choir saturday
set up
mac g4 400 notebbok
Iomega hdd80 outboard hd using usb1.1
Spark Me
USBpre
direct signal off board

when I did test recordings I would get(after 40 seconds or so) BUFFER
full with non-valid data
at this point I was trying to use my(usb1.1), iomega hdd 80 gig as the
temp file

when I reloaded spark me onto my G4(from the iomega) and used the hard
disk native in my mac(10 gig) every thing worked fine,as long as the
iomega was not connected

the issue is I only have 2.5 gigs available on the 10 gig native hard
drive in the g4
I would really like to get to where I can record a file of almost
endless length(much greater than 2.5 gig)
what is it I am missing on how to make this happen?

George

the issue is I only have 2.5 gigs available on the 10 gig native hard
drive in the g4
I would really like to get to where I can record a file of almost
endless length(much greater than 2.5 gig)
what is it I am missing on how to make this happen

I think George, you need a Firewire drive. USB 1.1 isn't that great for
audio. I recorded 10 tracks at 24/88.2 for two days using a Mobile I/O
interface and my ancient Pismo Firewire G3 without any problems in Nuendo 1.61
- and that's not the most stable program for editing in System 9.2.2 either. I
was using Glyph Netdrive firewire drives (note for Netdrive users, UPDATE your
firmware before using Jaguar with a Netdrive, you may lose all your data.)


Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

In article , WillStG
wrote:

(note for Netdrive users, UPDATE your
firmware before using Jaguar with a Netdrive, you may lose all your data.)

He may mean Panther here...

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Studio Dual
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"WillStG" wrote in message
...
George

the issue is I only have 2.5 gigs available on the 10 gig native hard
drive in the g4
I would really like to get to where I can record a file of almost
endless length(much greater than 2.5 gig)
what is it I am missing on how to make this happen

I think George, you need a Firewire drive. USB 1.1 isn't that great
for
audio. I recorded 10 tracks at 24/88.2 for two days using a Mobile I/O
interface and my ancient Pismo Firewire G3 without any problems in Nuendo
1.61
- and that's not the most stable program for editing in System 9.2.2
either. I
was using Glyph Netdrive firewire drives (note for Netdrive users, UPDATE
your
firmware before using Jaguar with a Netdrive, you may lose all your data.)


I was thinking that as well
or perhaps the "buffer" is in the Iomega(?)
it did mention to reduce the processing requirments for better performance
I think I should just up grade the HD in my G4 to 60 or 80 gigs
Then is is much less a problem
Thanks Will
george


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George wrote:

I was recording gospel choir saturday
set up
mac g4 400 notebbok
Iomega hdd80 outboard hd using usb1.1

Record to a disk directly on the machines chipset.

Spark Me
USBpre

Especially with such a critter.

the issue is I only have 2.5 gigs available on the 10 gig native hard
drive in the g4

For a simplified guideline: the last quarter of a harddisk, even if
defragmented, is only a quarter of the speed of the outer quarter.

I would really like to get to where I can record a file of almost
endless length(much greater than 2.5 gig)
what is it I am missing on how to make this happen?

A bigger internal harddisk, also because a bigger disk is likely to be
faster than the one you have now. So much has been happening with disk
surface density recently that a disk which is older than 3 years is
outdated for some uses, such as large audio files. It can have plenty
life left in an office machine or for backups, and be an excellent
performer, but if it really has to move audio, then it should be of the
generation that started with WD1200 and the Seagate B4's.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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He may mean Panther here...


Doh. Yeah, Glyph Netdrive 800's (one of mine is such) have a rpoblem with
"Panther", from the Glyphtech website -

"Critical Update -- netDrives800 and Mac OS 10.3 (Panther)"
"Customers with netDrives800 drives MUST update the firmware in their
netDrives800 BEFORE using it on Mac OS 10.3 (Panther).
You can perform this update yourself using our free downloadable updater; or
you can send the drive back to Glyph for updating.

"An issue has been identified that affects FireWire-800 drives that use the
Oxford '922 bridge chip, with early (pre-v1.05) firmware, when running with the
new release of Mac OS 10.3 (Panther). The problem is severe, and left
uncorrected, can cause irretrievable data loss. The correction is simple and
can be done by the customer in a few minutes. "

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

USB 1.1 is 12 Mbs, while Firewire is 400 Mbs and USB 2.0 is 480 Mbs.
Unfortunately you can't change your USB port, so I suspect that you won't be
getting much use out of the system that way. Now if the G4 has Firewire,
then the drive can be changed over to an external Firewire drive enclosure
and work just fine. Assuming nothing else is on the Firewire you should be
talking about 50 MB/s throughput and that should end your problems. I
don't, however, know whether the G4 has Firewire built in, but I believe it
does. The drive is the same for either USB or Firewire, so
interchangability is a matter of undoing the USB case and buying a Firewire
case.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
RAP FAQ and Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at
www.recaudiopro.net.
See how far $20 really goes.





"George" wrote in message
...

I was recording gospel choir saturday
set up
mac g4 400 notebbok
Iomega hdd80 outboard hd using usb1.1
Spark Me
USBpre
direct signal off board

when I did test recordings I would get(after 40 seconds or so) BUFFER
full with non-valid data
at this point I was trying to use my(usb1.1), iomega hdd 80 gig as the
temp file

when I reloaded spark me onto my G4(from the iomega) and used the hard
disk native in my mac(10 gig) every thing worked fine,as long as the
iomega was not connected

the issue is I only have 2.5 gigs available on the 10 gig native hard
drive in the g4
I would really like to get to where I can record a file of almost
endless length(much greater than 2.5 gig)
what is it I am missing on how to make this happen?

In article ,
"Roger W. Norman" wrote:

USB 1.1 is 12 Mbs, while Firewire is 400 Mbs and USB 2.0 is 480 Mbs.
Unfortunately you can't change your USB port, so I suspect that you won't be
getting much use out of the system that way. Now if the G4 has Firewire,
then the drive can be changed over to an external Firewire drive enclosure
and work just fine. Assuming nothing else is on the Firewire you should be
talking about 50 MB/s throughput and that should end your problems. I
don't, however, know whether the G4 has Firewire built in, but I believe it
does. The drive is the same for either USB or Firewire, so
interchangability is a matter of undoing the USB case and buying a Firewire
case.

cool I do have a firewire in, I just could not find a FW drive in stock
when the money was burning a hole in my pocket
George

From: George
cool I do have a firewire in, I just could not find a FW drive in stock

when the money was burning a hole in my pocket

You might just pull your old IDE drive out of the USB enclosure and put
it in a $25 caddy like this

http://store.yahoo.com/colorcase-store/22405.html (scroll all the way to the
right)

and then use it with this $135 Firewire "Drive dock", giving you a removable
firewire drive.

http://www.npstudios.com/firedock/

When you need more storage in the future, it's a lot cheaper just to have
to buy an IDE drive and a caddy.

( This what many guys using Mackie MDR/HDR hard disk recorders are using, as
a firewire drive is a faster way to get the info from the recorders into their
computers. )




Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

Isn't that somewhat what I said? g

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
RAP FAQ and Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at
www.recaudiopro.net.
See how far $20 really goes.





"WillStG" wrote in message
...
From: George
cool I do have a firewire in, I just could not find a FW drive in stock

when the money was burning a hole in my pocket

You might just pull your old IDE drive out of the USB enclosure and
put
it in a $25 caddy like this

http://store.yahoo.com/colorcase-store/22405.html (scroll all the way to
the
right)

and then use it with this $135 Firewire "Drive dock", giving you a
removable
firewire drive.

http://www.npstudios.com/firedock/

When you need more storage in the future, it's a lot cheaper just to
have
to buy an IDE drive and a caddy.

( This what many guys using Mackie MDR/HDR hard disk recorders are
using, as
a firewire drive is a faster way to get the info from the recorders into
their
computers. )




Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

"Roger W. Norman"

Isn't that somewhat what I said? g

"Yes, and... " + "Agree and add" + "Expand and explore".

( Mike Myers reference points on Improv... )


Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits