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![]() "Mark Simonetti" Surely, as the lower frequency moves the cone back and forth, which at the same time is vibrating to create the higher frequency, that is IDENTICAL to moving a single vibrating source back and forth, like the train analogy (except the train doesn't move back and forth unless the driver is very confused). Therefore, the doppler effect surely DOES occur. It just seems really obvious, so I must be missing the whole point of this, I'm no physics scientist ! ** The matter is intuitive to many - but forever obscure to those with no mental capacity to imagine the situation in their heads. It pretty much divides up between the science types ( using mental, physical models ) and the arts subject types ( using only grammar and phrase matching). The fact that cones have **vastly greater** excursions at low frequencies than at high ones - even for the same SPL - is at the heart of the matter and clearly bamboozles as well. The fact that those large low frequency excursions have the greatest velocity also confounds the easily confoundable. .............. Phil |