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I would like somebody to suggest me any good vsti or sample cd/dvd with good
accordion samples. I need a Flaco Jimenez or Los Lobos style. Thanx |
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![]() Buenaventura Durruti wrote: I would like somebody to suggest me any good vsti or sample cd/dvd with good accordion samples. I need a Flaco Jimenez or Los Lobos style. Thanx I usually use stock Roland general midi patches. The style you're talking about uses a sharper tuning, which translates into more of that "vibrato-ey" sound. You can approximate that if you need to by adding chorusing, or recording 2 identical tracks, and making 1 of them slightly sharper than the other. Or, for somewhere between $4k & $5k USD, you can get this from Roland: http://www.roland.com/products/en/FR-7/index.html It looks amazing, and sounds incredible from the online demos I've seen. But you need to be a real accordionista to want one. :-) |
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![]() singproinc wrote: Buenaventura Durruti wrote: I would like somebody to suggest me any good vsti or sample cd/dvd with good accordion samples. I need a Flaco Jimenez or Los Lobos style. Thanx I usually use stock Roland general midi patches. The style you're talking about uses a sharper tuning, which translates into more of that "vibrato-ey" sound. You can approximate that if you need to by adding chorusing, or recording 2 identical tracks, and making 1 of them slightly sharper than the other. Or, for somewhere between $4k & $5k USD, you can get this from Roland: http://www.roland.com/products/en/FR-7/index.html It looks amazing, and sounds incredible from the online demos I've seen. But you need to be a real accordionista to want one. :-) If you can play a synth, you can probably play an accordion without too much of a learning curve. And a used accordion will run you only about $100 plus shipping on ebay... Actually, the Roland MIDI accordion could be nice for playing samples of non-keyboard instruments like strings, flutes and trumpets. One advantage the accordion has is its ability to change volume in subtle ways after you press a note -- by changing bellows pressure. I've had some fun multitracking Bach keyboard suites on voice at a time on (acoustic) accordion. It allowed an unusually expresssive performance, since I could crescendo into some of the harmonic tensions rather than having them fade away after the keypress. (These recordings are on the recent Unseen Cinema DVDs, the film "Tree Trunk to Head," if anyone out there is an avant garde cinema fan....) Rodney Sauer Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra www.mont-alto.com |
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![]() "Buenaventura Durruti" wrote in message . .. I would like somebody to suggest me any good vsti or sample cd/dvd with good accordion samples. I need a Flaco Jimenez or Los Lobos style. Thanx It's Cajun - I was on a session once with Jo-el Sonnier, another US Cajun player, who actually layered his parts to get it sounding even more mangled... might be worth splitting a clean sound across two tracks, then doing a slight pitch shift on one. Here in France, it's common for certain players to order their instruments set-up this way, with the reeds slightly out of pitch, the equivalent of honky-tonk piano tuning. RM |
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Thanx to everyone. IŽve found this little vsti in
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1318.html that might work. It seems to sound not too classic and mellow. I have to try it out. IŽll try this slightly-out-of-tune trick. Have a nice day:-) |
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Roger Moss wrote:
"Buenaventura Durruti" wrote in message . .. I would like somebody to suggest me any good vsti or sample cd/dvd with good accordion samples. I need a Flaco Jimenez or Los Lobos style. Thanx It's Cajun - I was on a session once with Jo-el Sonnier, another US Cajun player, who actually layered his parts to get it sounding even more mangled... might be worth splitting a clean sound across two tracks, then doing a slight pitch shift on one. Here in France, it's common for certain players to order their instruments set-up this way, with the reeds slightly out of pitch, the equivalent of honky-tonk piano tuning. RM Flaco is his own thing. It's not particularly Cajun. I beleive he significantly thins the reeds. The Tex-Mex/Norte style o' squeezebox is more based on oom-pah-pah polka stuff than on Cajun. *Much* more. The predominantly German-settled central part of Texas ( around Neu Braunfels ) had a lotta beer-hall music happening, and it cross pollinated with traditional Mexican styles to be El Norte/Tex Mex. Weird, but true ![]() I am not sure, but I think the thinner reeds are for attack purposes - the thing just doesn't play fast enough otherwise. In Norte, the accordion is mainly about antiphonal filligree - it's gotta be quick. There are several free .sf2 files on http://www.sf2midi.com/ Dunno if they're any good. Search for "accordion" Flaco is like Bill Monroe or something. A real innovator. -- Les Cargill |
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"Les Cargill" wrote in message
. .. Flaco is like Bill Monroe or something. A real innovator. He is certainly an innovator, but he's also following strongly in the footsteps of his father, Santiago Jimenez, who was something of a patriarch of Conjunto players. Arhoolie put out a CD of 78 reissues a while back, over-processed but still worth hearing. Flaco's brother, Santiago Jr., is also superb, rather more traditional in sound, and incredibly soulful. I'm prejudiced -- Santiago Jr. was my introduction to this great music. Peace, Paul |
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The "Peti" from Luigi at DASH is excellent. I use it whenever I need ANY
type of accordian and do not have an actual live player here. http://nusofting.liqihsynth.com http://dashsignature.com -- Regards, Ted Perlman Producer-Arranger-Composer-Guitarist www.tedperlman.com |
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