Hi from Italy,
I've just bought an U87AI, and while I was recording a vocal track I
was able to hear some strange glitches.
I was using a Millennia TD1/HV3 and I have connected this mic to an
ISA428 too, just to check.
These kind of glitches are audible during loud passages of a medium
loud female voice.
It seems a kind of distortion. The converter is an RME ADI 8 I/O,
cables are good (Belden) and in good condition.
All the equipment involved in this record chain is well known by me,
except for the U87AI that is brand new.
Maybe it's a matter of 48v? I think the TD1 has a good phantom 48v, so
is the ISA428. With other condensers (KSM44, C451B, and so on) no
problems at all.
By the way I've bought this mic because its name, and because 10 years
ago I have had this mic, but the overall sound it's not so good on
vocal. It's better on an acoustic (Martin HD35), but the highs, on a
female vocal, seems very rauchy and raspy. definitely no sweet (I
think Millennia is a clean pre).
Any thoughs, any suggestion?
Many thanks in advance and sorry for my english.
Ciao
Roberto Costa

Roberto wrote:
Hi from Italy,
I've just bought an U87AI, and while I was recording a vocal track I
was able to hear some strange glitches.
I was using a Millennia TD1/HV3 and I have connected this mic to an
ISA428 too, just to check.
These kind of glitches are audible during loud passages of a medium
loud female voice.
It seems a kind of distortion. The converter is an RME ADI 8 I/O,
cables are good (Belden) and in good condition.
All the equipment involved in this record chain is well known by me,
except for the U87AI that is brand new.
Maybe it's a matter of 48v? I think the TD1 has a good phantom 48v,
so
is the ISA428. With other condensers (KSM44, C451B, and so on) no
problems at all.
By the way I've bought this mic because its name, and because 10
years
ago I have had this mic, but the overall sound it's not so good on
vocal. It's better on an acoustic (Martin HD35), but the highs, on a
female vocal, seems very rauchy and raspy. definitely no sweet (I
think Millennia is a clean pre).
Any thoughs, any suggestion?
Many thanks in advance and sorry for my english.
Ciao
Roberto Costa

You may be overloading your mic input. Have you tried the attenuator
switch?

Steve

Roberto,
You might want to check and see if your mic is defective in some way.
Try another one or send it to Neumann to be checked out.

Mike

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Roberto,
You might want to check and see if your mic is defective in some way.
Try another one or send it to Neumann to be checked out.


Or better yet, return it to the seller and let him do it.

Predrag

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Roberto,
You might want to check and see if your mic is defective in some way.
Try another one or send it to Neumann to be checked out.


Or better yet, return it to the seller and let him do it.

Predrag

Hi,
you're right, but yesterday I was listening to these glitches. My
apologies to all but it seems that these glitches are related to the
word clock. A week ago, when repatching my home studio, I connected
only a cable from the word clock Out of the RME9652 to the word clock
In of the Rme ADI8 and not a cable from the Out of the ADI8 to the In
of the 9652.
Now I've disconnected the cable and I've choose Autosync in the
control panel of the 9652. Glitches are gone. My apologies to everyone
for a newbie question.
By the way I feel this mic like a very different one from the U87AI
that I had bought 10 years ago.
I used to use that mic with a 8Bus Mackie pre, today with a
Millennia. I don't understand. A defective unit?
I've not so much confidence in the technical acquaintance of the
Italian sellers. I fear that they don't understand: "is this mic break
or not? if not then it's ok"
After the glitches are gone, me and my wife (a good singer) we have
done a test, same pre (ISA428), but different mics U87AI vs Shure
KSM44.
While the german remains superior to the american mic, the difference
it's not so big.
I've bought the U87AI only for a matter of brand, the next time I'LL
LISTEN!!!
Many thanks to all reply and excuse me not only for my english.
Ciao
Roberto

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Roberto,
You might want to check and see if your mic is defective in some way.
Try another one or send it to Neumann to be checked out.


Or better yet, return it to the seller and let him do it.

Predrag

Hi,
you're right, but yesterday I was listening to these glitches. My
apologies to all but it seems that these glitches are related to the
word clock. A week ago, when repatching my home studio, I connected
only a cable from the word clock Out of the RME9652 to the word clock
In of the Rme ADI8 and not a cable from the Out of the ADI8 to the In
of the 9652.
Now I've disconnected the cable and I've choose Autosync in the
control panel of the 9652. Glitches are gone. My apologies to everyone
for a newbie question.
By the way I feel this mic like a very different one from the U87AI
that I had bought 10 years ago.
I used to use that mic with a 8Bus Mackie pre, today with a
Millennia. I don't understand. A defective unit?
I've not so much confidence in the technical acquaintance of the
Italian sellers. I fear that they don't understand: "is this mic break
or not? if not then it's ok"
After the glitches are gone, me and my wife (a good singer) we have
done a test, same pre (ISA428), but different mics U87AI vs Shure
KSM44.
While the german remains superior to the american mic, the difference
it's not so big.
I've bought the U87AI only for a matter of brand, the next time I'LL
LISTEN!!!
Many thanks to all reply and excuse me not only for my english.
Ciao
Roberto


I don't know about the glitches, but an U87 should have reasonably sweet
highs.

Are you sure the U87 you tried 10 years ago was the current Ai version.
Older U87 version could sound a tiny bit smoother in the highs, thanks
partly to the aging process.

Predrag

In article , Predrag Trpkov
wrote:

I don't know about the glitches, but an U87 should have reasonably sweet
highs.

Are you sure the U87 you tried 10 years ago was the current Ai version.
Older U87 version could sound a tiny bit smoother in the highs, thanks
partly to the aging process.

Predrag



Having a different capsule inside it might have something to do with it
too ;

As Predrag said, the top on an 87 should nice quite nice. Especially
when plugged into a nice pre. The pre does make a difference.




David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


www.CelebrationSound.com

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:14:22 -0400, Roberto wrote
(in article ):

"Predrag Trpkov" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
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Roberto,
You might want to check and see if your mic is defective in some way.
Try another one or send it to Neumann to be checked out.


Or better yet, return it to the seller and let him do it.

Predrag

Hi,
you're right, but yesterday I was listening to these glitches. My
apologies to all but it seems that these glitches are related to the
word clock. A week ago, when repatching my home studio, I connected
only a cable from the word clock Out of the RME9652 to the word clock
In of the Rme ADI8 and not a cable from the Out of the ADI8 to the In
of the 9652.
Now I've disconnected the cable and I've choose Autosync in the
control panel of the 9652. Glitches are gone. My apologies to everyone
for a newbie question.
By the way I feel this mic like a very different one from the U87AI
that I had bought 10 years ago.
I used to use that mic with a 8Bus Mackie pre, today with a
Millennia. I don't understand. A defective unit?
I've not so much confidence in the technical acquaintance of the
Italian sellers. I fear that they don't understand: "is this mic break
or not? if not then it's ok"
After the glitches are gone, me and my wife (a good singer) we have
done a test, same pre (ISA428), but different mics U87AI vs Shure
KSM44.
While the german remains superior to the american mic, the difference
it's not so big.
I've bought the U87AI only for a matter of brand, the next time I'LL
LISTEN!!!
Many thanks to all reply and excuse me not only for my english.
Ciao
Roberto

AS with most good mics, a really good preamp makes a lot of difference.

Regards,

Ty Ford



-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

Ty Ford wrote:

AS with most good mics, a really good preamp makes a lot of difference.

I think a decent preamp makes a huge difference even with mics that
aren't so good. One can add subtantial value to one's crappy mic
collection just by purchasing an RNP instead of half a dozen more crappy
mics seeking the holy grail of crappy micdom.

--
ha