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Will Miho Deserves To Get His Head Chopped Off
Not called for, nor acceptable. Will may have his opinions on things, but
never in this country should opinions cause anyone to have their head chopped off. Will stands as a strong person from his statements on his family and his community. I believe him because he has no need to lie. I don't get along with Will, but I wouldn't wish him to get his head chopped off, or even his internet account cancelled. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio "Rupert Murdoch" wrote in message ... He's a terrible employee and I hate him. Rupert |
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Roger W. Norman wrote: Not called for, nor acceptable. Will may have his opinions on things, but never in this country should opinions cause anyone to have their head chopped off. Will stands as a strong person from his statements on his family and his community. I believe him because he has no need to lie. I don't get along with Will, but I wouldn't wish him to get his head chopped off, or even his internet account cancelled. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio You're a bigger man than most, Roger. Hopefully others will learn something valuable from your statement above. |
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"Roger W. Norman" wrote in message ... Not called for, nor acceptable. Will may have his opinions on things, but never in this country should opinions cause anyone to have their head chopped off. Will stands as a strong person from his statements on his family and his community. I believe him because he has no need to lie. I don't get along with Will, but I wouldn't wish him to get his head chopped off, or even his internet account cancelled. Mind you, in some cultures some people get their jollies by cutting heads off, including their own. Casts an entirely new light on the term 'losing face' .... geoff |
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:24:52 +1300, "Geoff Wood"
wrote: Mind you, in some cultures some people get their jollies by cutting heads off, including their own. Casts an entirely new light on the term 'losing face' .... snip ....ba dat...BOOMPH! |
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WillStG wrote:
Righteous people do not require anonymous remailing services and false ID's, nor do they make death threats as an expression of their political faith or religious belief. Fascists do, but you give that them pass, you think the value of my death a better subject for discussion. Excuse me? I make a comment about your martyr comment, and you equate that to some bozo making death threats? Personally I don't think his posts even deserve comment. Apparently you do. How hypocritical and pathetic Joe, that like the fascists do, you think *you* are the one to judge the ultimate value of a man's life. Boy do you know how to twist things. Is this standard training at your company? Am I judging the value of anyone's life? No. Personally I think the whole martyrdom thing is far over-rated. But you brought it up. |
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Roger Christie wrote:
Saying one deserves something is not the same as threatening to do it to them. I agree, but the courts may not always agree with that. Wasn't that guy Tom Metzger (?) found to be responsible for the death of an Ethipoian immigrant after a speech he gave in Portland, OR. to a group of skinheads (about 1990?)? Although his speech never actually advocated killing anyone the skinheads ended up murdering a taxi driver a few days after Metzger left town. Metzger lost a huge civil suit and had to pay millions to the victim's family. Whatever the case, it's totally immature and irresponsible to use a public forum to suggest someone like Will deserves his head cut off. |
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-- Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing its idiot. "Paul Thomas" wrote in message oups.com... Roger Christie wrote: Saying one deserves something is not the same as threatening to do it to them. I agree, but the courts may not always agree with that. Wasn't that guy Tom Metzger (?) found to be responsible for the death of an Ethipoian immigrant after a speech he gave in Portland, OR. to a group of skinheads (about 1990?)? Although his speech never actually advocated killing anyone the skinheads ended up murdering a taxi driver a few days after Metzger left town. Metzger lost a huge civil suit and had to pay millions to the victim's family. Whatever the case, it's totally immature and irresponsible to use a public forum to suggest someone like Will deserves his head cut off. Of course it is. Its also immature to overreact in a shrill and hysterical manner. |
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Paul Thomas wrote:
Whatever the case, it's totally immature and irresponsible to use a public forum to suggest someone like Will deserves his head cut off. Agreed. It would be much more respectable to say it to his face.  |
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Roger Christie rochrist@ wrote:
If you read it, it wasn't a threat. Saying one deserves something is not the same as threatening to do it to them. Exactly. He is just being overly dramatic for effect. Guess he's been working at Fox too long. |
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nmm wrote: Will needs a bit of attention every now and then so he uses these sock puppets to threaten himself. I saw this and sent in an ilegal abuse complaint about the message. To what abuse monitor does one send threats? Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Bob Cain wrote: nmm wrote: Will needs a bit of attention every now and then so he uses these sock puppets to threaten himself. I saw this and sent in an ilegal abuse complaint about the message. To what abuse monitor does one send threats? Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein I just sent it off to the google thread thing of "report abuse". It's an option in the new "google groups" program. probably gets ignored by someone somewhere.. but i tried. |
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On 24 Dec 2004 20:51:24 -0800, "nmm" wrote:
I just sent it off to the google thread thing of "report abuse". It's an option in the new "google groups" program. probably gets ignored by someone somewhere.. but i tried. snip "Goo goo groopz" sucks. They're destroying Usenet by allowing access by trolls and spammers of heretofore unimagined proportions. Don't think for a minute they're serious about taking abuse reports, either. They're not...I've already tried. dB |
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Guys for the mere sanity of the readers of this forum can we keep death
threat threads out? Feel free to email your homocide arguments to each other. This is totally inappropriate. If one of these threads starts, just ignore it please. Thanks--MAtt DeserTBoB wrote: On 25 Dec 2004 13:00:05 -0500, (Mike Rivers) wrote: Does anybody take abuse reports seriously? And if they did, how would it help stop a spammer? Much less a troll? snip Actually, some ISPs and news servers DO take spam and troll reports seriously IF the reported transgression is serious enough. Send one to "goo goo groopz" and you get an auto form message, period. dB |
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"Bob Cain" wrote in message ... nmm wrote: Will needs a bit of attention every now and then so he uses these sock puppets to threaten himself. I saw this and sent in an ilegal abuse complaint about the message. To what abuse monitor does one send threats? Bob Usuually abuse@ispname , if there appers to be a real ISP name in the header. geoff |
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"Joe Sensor" wrote in message ... Paul Thomas wrote: Whatever the case, it's totally immature and irresponsible to use a public forum to suggest someone like Will deserves his head cut off. Agreed. It would be much more respectable to say it to his face. Now, if somebody could put it in a box and send it, he could ! ;-) geoff |
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Geoff Wood wrote:
Agreed. It would be much more respectable to say it to his face. Now, if somebody could put it in a box and send it, he could ! ;-) Hahahaha. Sorry. . Hahahaha |
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:00:30 -0800, DeserTBoB
wrote: On 24 Dec 2004 20:51:24 -0800, "nmm" wrote: I just sent it off to the google thread thing of "report abuse". It's an option in the new "google groups" program. probably gets ignored by someone somewhere.. but i tried. snip "Goo goo groopz" sucks. They're destroying Usenet by allowing access by trolls and spammers of heretofore unimagined proportions. Right... people said the same thing when AOL came online. The truth is, flames, trolls and spammers have been around for years. And I have rarely seen any ISP, anywhere, really deal with usenet abuse, unless it is really extreme. Al |
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:08:55 -0800, playon
wrote: Right... people said the same thing when AOL came online.snip ....and it's true! Morons prefer AOHell 3 to 1 over real internet service! dB |
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WillStG wrote: DeserTBoB Geezus, what a paranoid delusional bag of gas this guy is! I think Faux must recruit out of psychiatric practices or something! So it's fine and dandy for *YOU* to remark on death threats directed at me, but not ok for me to? What an ass you are Bob. And I am still waiting for a flat out apology from you for calling me a "scab" BTW, my workplace being non-union by choice doesn't make anyone I work with a "scab". Yeah right, if you wre to even mention a Union at Fox your ass would be out the door so fast, you wouln't have time to say "boo". From the "right to work" laws in place in Texas, to places like Fox being a non union shop.. America s corporate thieves have eliminated any bargaining power workers used to have. What's worse is you have people like Will who enjoy being shat on. Does he have a dental or health plan, any job security, any recourse if sudenly management puts him on the **** list? I doubt it. No wonder he is such a dedicated worker.. FEAR. no we know his motivation for posting such lies and off topic political rubbish here. |
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WillStG wrote:
Perhaps you might have a bit more senstivity to this subject if you Roger had received these kinds of threats and worse, calling for the death of you and your wife and children, as I have several times now here on RAP. Waaaaa. Is it time to change your diapers yet? |
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Roger Christie rochrist@ wrote:
Sheesh Will. Learn to recognize a troll, will you? Not that I care that much, but you do realize you've given him EXACTLY what he wanted and more? Some have suggested Miho is the troll. Wouldn't surprise me. |
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"Roger Christie" rochrist@REMOVETOEMAIL charter.net
Its also immature to overreact in a shrill and hysterical manner. Hysterical - that's how you would describe my reaction? You are an asshole Christie. Tell you what , after you have your family threatened a few times on RAP with being skinned and burned alive as I have, you get back to me about what you think is a properly nuanced reaction. Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Audio Guy / Fox News "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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WillStG wrote:
It is also how Malcolm X was set up for murder. Right, now your Malcolm X. l.o.l. |
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WillStG wrote: "nmm" Yeah right, if you wre to even mention a Union at Fox your ass would be out the door so fast, you wouln't have time to say "boo". Nick, why do you talk **** all the time without a basis other than your smoke hazed imaginings? When NABET tried to organize Fox News our Boss Roger Ailes told us it was our decision, but asked us to consider how good a deal we had compared to what NABET has negotiated for anyone. Management didn't try to intimidate anyone, and if that kind of atmosphere existed here we would have gone Union in a New York Minute. But Will you are a 100% company man. Get someone who from FOX here who doesn't tow the company line like you do. You might do the work of 'labour" but you have the midset of management. You talk about Roger Ailes the way North Koreans speak of Kim Il Sung. From the "right to work" laws in place in Texas, to places like Fox being a non union shop.. America s corporate thieves have eliminated any bargaining power workers used to have. What's worse is you have people like Will who enjoy being shat on. Does he have a dental or health plan, any job security, any recourse if sudenly management puts him on the **** list? I doubt it. No wonder he is such a dedicated worker.. FEAR. no we know his motivation for posting such lies and off topic political rubbish here. So how long *you* been mixing TV Nick, you get paid how much for being an audio guy, you belong or have belonged to what Unions yourself, Nabet pulled out of the CBC in the early 90s and was replaces by "Comunications, Energy and Pulp and Paper Workers". NABET was always crappy they had some idea to get into the film industry and tried competing with IATSE but that didn't pan out, they are dead in Canada now. At least in Canada one's entire Health care isn't dependant on your Employer's good nature; Every Canadian is guarenteed Health Care by federal legislation, like most first world countries. what's *your* benefit package? I mean our benefits are pretty good, but really none of your business if you're gonna be an asshole about it. Hit a Nerve There? Furthermore most Fox Broadcast O&O's and affiliates *are* Union, just Fox News is not - our choice. When I say we have a better deal here than NABET has negotiated for the other guys, there are actual audio professionals on this group - unlike yourself - who have a clue. Well NABET is weak, you know that too. But thanks for at least changing the headers on your comments. No problem , Hope ya had a good Holiday too! Cheers Nick |
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On 27 Dec 2004 13:47:56 -0800, "nmm" wrote:
But Will you are a 100% company man. Get someone who from FOX here who doesn't tow the company line like you do. You might do the work of 'labour" but you have the midset of management. You talk about Roger Ailes the way North Koreans speak of Kim Il Sung. snip That's the way union busting management "trains" people to think they can bargain for themselves...they make them "associates," a bull**** term used to make the employee think they have some "ownership" in the company, when indeed the reverse is true. If one of the "associates" gets out of line by even MENTIONING organizing, they're thrown out the door, often illegally, and made an example for the remaining "associates." This is exactly the model Wally-Fart uses to thwart the UFCW, and what Faux has used to repel NABET for years now. Before I become UNfair and UNbalanced, I should also mention that CNN is as big a union buster as is Faux. Ted Turner, for all his supposed liberalism, sicced his labor lawyer goons on CWA/NABET many moons ago and every year since and has pretty much adhered to the same "associates" practices in use at Wally-Fart and Faux. dB |
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"DeserTBoB" wrote in message That's the way union busting management "trains" people to think they can bargain for themselves...they make them "associates," a bull**** term used to make the employee think they have some "ownership" in the company, when indeed the reverse is true. If one of the "associates" gets out of line by even MENTIONING organizing, they're thrown out the door, often illegally, and made an example for the remaining "associates." This is exactly the model Wally-Fart uses to thwart the UFCW, and what Faux has used to repel NABET for years now. Before I become UNfair and UNbalanced, I should also mention that CNN is as big a union buster as is Faux. Ted Turner, for all his supposed liberalism, sicced his labor lawyer goons on CWA/NABET many moons ago and every year since and has pretty much adhered to the same "associates" practices in use at Wally-Fart and Faux. If the benefits of 'ownership' weren't equal to or better than union offerings, it wouldn't work. It works in a lot of places... from Target to Delta. 'Strength in numbers' works great in combat, strength in dignity works anywhere. |
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:08:29 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
wrote: If the benefits of 'ownership' weren't equal to or better than union offerings, it wouldn't work. It works in a lot of places... from Target to Delta. snip Target: Minimum wage jobs with minimal benefits. Delta: Lowest paid airline workers in the country, except the pilots, whoe are all ALPA members. Both these employers use the "associate game." 'Strength in numbers' works great in combat, strength in dignity works anywhere. snip Horse****. Collectivism is the only way working people can combat corporate elitism and inherent economonic unfairness. dB |
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"nmm" wrote in message ups.com... Anyone who wants to know more about the Zarqawi Myth there is an article by Scott Ritter on "the Zarqawi Myth" in the opinion section of http://english.aljazeera.net Al Jazeera online. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../04/wirq04.xml jb |
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"DeserTBoB" wrote in message ... On 24 Dec 2004 20:51:24 -0800, "nmm" wrote: I just sent it off to the google thread thing of "report abuse". It's an option in the new "google groups" program. probably gets ignored by someone somewhere.. but i tried. snip "Goo goo groopz" sucks. They're destroying Usenet by allowing access by trolls and spammers of heretofore unimagined proportions. I can do anything I want with any newsreader, and so can anyone. My objection to the google groups posting service is the lousy interface, and it seems unnecessary when people can just learn to use the software that came with their computer. jb |
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:08:29 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
wrote: "DeserTBoB" wrote in message That's the way union busting management "trains" people to think they can bargain for themselves...they make them "associates," a bull**** term used to make the employee think they have some "ownership" in the company, when indeed the reverse is true. If one of the "associates" gets out of line by even MENTIONING organizing, they're thrown out the door, often illegally, and made an example for the remaining "associates." This is exactly the model Wally-Fart uses to thwart the UFCW, and what Faux has used to repel NABET for years now. Before I become UNfair and UNbalanced, I should also mention that CNN is as big a union buster as is Faux. Ted Turner, for all his supposed liberalism, sicced his labor lawyer goons on CWA/NABET many moons ago and every year since and has pretty much adhered to the same "associates" practices in use at Wally-Fart and Faux. If the benefits of 'ownership' weren't equal to or better than union offerings, it wouldn't work. It works in a lot of places... from Target to Delta. It only works because people have no better option. People have tried to start unions at places like Walmart but they always get broken up before they can get properly organized. Al |
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playon wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:08:29 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote: "DeserTBoB" wrote in message That's the way union busting management "trains" people to think they can bargain for themselves...they make them "associates," a bull**** term used to make the employee think they have some "ownership" in the company, when indeed the reverse is true. If one of the "associates" gets out of line by even MENTIONING organizing, they're thrown out the door, often illegally, and made an example for the remaining "associates." This is exactly the model Wally-Fart uses to thwart the UFCW, and what Faux has used to repel NABET for years now. Before I become UNfair and UNbalanced, I should also mention that CNN is as big a union buster as is Faux. Ted Turner, for all his supposed liberalism, sicced his labor lawyer goons on CWA/NABET many moons ago and every year since and has pretty much adhered to the same "associates" practices in use at Wally-Fart and Faux. If the benefits of 'ownership' weren't equal to or better than union offerings, it wouldn't work. It works in a lot of places... from Target to Delta. It only works because people have no better option. People have tried to start unions at places like Walmart but they always get broken up before they can get properly organized. Al Actually there is a Walmart in Quebec where the employees started a Union.. Then Walmart tried to shut down the store for some other reason. It was big news in Canada, probably never made it to American TV. |
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nmm wrote: playon wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:08:29 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote: "DeserTBoB" wrote in message That's the way union busting management "trains" people to think they can bargain for themselves...they make them "associates," a bull**** term used to make the employee think they have some "ownership" in the company, when indeed the reverse is true. If one of the "associates" gets out of line by even MENTIONING organizing, they're thrown out the door, often illegally, and made an example for the remaining "associates." This is exactly the model Wally-Fart uses to thwart the UFCW, and what Faux has used to repel NABET for years now. Before I become UNfair and UNbalanced, I should also mention that CNN is as big a union buster as is Faux. Ted Turner, for all his supposed liberalism, sicced his labor lawyer goons on CWA/NABET many moons ago and every year since and has pretty much adhered to the same "associates" practices in use at Wally-Fart and Faux. If the benefits of 'ownership' weren't equal to or better than union offerings, it wouldn't work. It works in a lot of places... from Target to Delta. It only works because people have no better option. People have tried to start unions at places like Walmart but they always get broken up before they can get properly organized. Al Actually there is a Walmart in Quebec where the employees started a Union.. Then Walmart tried to shut down the store for some other reason. It was big news in Canada, probably never made it to American TV. Here is the Story. http://www.dsausa.org/lowwage/walmar...0Wal-Mart.html |
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