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david wrote:
And inside that 2" is everything, screen, DVD burner, hard drive, even the power supply. No wall wart. With optional Airport wireless networking and bluetooth keyboard and mouse, the ONLY wire coming out of the thing is the AC cable... This form factor is what everyone will be shipping in a year or two except for the low priced spreads. I wouldn't count on that. They could have made all-in-one CRT machines, like the first generation iMac, but they didn't (beside a few failed attemps). That would have departed to their proven "box" design too much... They could have imitated the sunflower iMac but hey: "Motherboards are square, always been. We make square motherboards. No way we're gonna make stinkin' round motherboards"... In the current, 3rd generation iMac, power dissipation of the innefficient Pentiums might prevent either small or silent operation of the thing, compared to the iMac. There's so much things you can improves on a 23 years old design... -- Eric (Dero) Desrochers http://homepage.mac.com/dero72 Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95 |
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david wrote:
And inside that 2" is everything, screen, DVD burner, hard drive, even the power supply. No wall wart. With optional Airport wireless networking and bluetooth keyboard and mouse, the ONLY wire coming out of the thing is the AC cable... This form factor is what everyone will be shipping in a year or two except for the low priced spreads. I wouldn't count on that. They could have made all-in-one CRT machines, like the first generation iMac, but they didn't (beside a few failed attemps). That would have departed to their proven "box" design too much... They could have imitated the sunflower iMac but hey: "Motherboards are square, always been. We make square motherboards. No way we're gonna make stinkin' round motherboards"... In the current, 3rd generation iMac, power dissipation of the innefficient Pentiums might prevent either small or silent operation of the thing, compared to the iMac. There's so much things you can improves on a 23 years old design... -- Eric (Dero) Desrochers http://homepage.mac.com/dero72 Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95 |
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In article , Don Pearce
wrote: Everything in one box? You have no idea of the deep joy you will experience when one little bit of that goes wrong. You will stand gazing at your one box, and wishing earnestly that you could - please - just unplug the offending bit and replace it. You will go to your local PC store and see all those replacement hard drives, power supplies, cases and other bits costing almost no money and you will think "but it is only two inches thick; that makes me a winner, surely?". I don't get it. If your hard drive flakes out you replace it. You wanna add more ram go ahead. I believe it comes apart with only 3 screws. It ain't welded shut. Yes, one can bitch about the combo monitor/computer. I always thought the combo vcr/tv was a bad idea. But this thing is gonna be copy-catted big time. I'm not in the market for one cuz I need PCI slots. The coolest thing I've heard is that you can mount it on a wall like a flatscreen TV. That's pretty cool, a whole damn powerful computer hanging 2" off a wall. David Correia Celebration Sound Warren, Rhode Island www.CelebrationSound.com |
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In article , Don Pearce
wrote: Everything in one box? You have no idea of the deep joy you will experience when one little bit of that goes wrong. You will stand gazing at your one box, and wishing earnestly that you could - please - just unplug the offending bit and replace it. You will go to your local PC store and see all those replacement hard drives, power supplies, cases and other bits costing almost no money and you will think "but it is only two inches thick; that makes me a winner, surely?". I don't get it. If your hard drive flakes out you replace it. You wanna add more ram go ahead. I believe it comes apart with only 3 screws. It ain't welded shut. Yes, one can bitch about the combo monitor/computer. I always thought the combo vcr/tv was a bad idea. But this thing is gonna be copy-catted big time. I'm not in the market for one cuz I need PCI slots. The coolest thing I've heard is that you can mount it on a wall like a flatscreen TV. That's pretty cool, a whole damn powerful computer hanging 2" off a wall. David Correia Celebration Sound Warren, Rhode Island www.CelebrationSound.com |
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In article , Eric Desrochers
wrote: This form factor is what everyone will be shipping in a year or two except for the low priced spreads. I wouldn't count on that. Not for the el cheepo boxes. But it's only a matter of time before everyone is offering this design. They could have made all-in-one CRT machines, like the first generation iMac, but they didn't (beside a few failed attemps). That would have departed to their proven "box" design too much... I think part of the reason for failure is the mantra for PC's low low price. Costs a little more for a well designed, pretty box. Dell, a humungo corporation spends peanuts on R & D. Which stockholders love. How can you argue with their winning formula? In the current, 3rd generation iMac, power dissipation of the innefficient Pentiums might prevent either small or silent operation of the thing, compared to the iMac. I read recently that the biggest problem for heat in upcoming Macs will be the video cards. Pretty interesting. And it looks like Intel is taking the AMD lead to multicore chips, rather than strictly pursuing raw speed. Besides, it would cost too much for the expensive materials and fit and finish for most consumer PC buyers. So there'll be Wall Mart versions as well. Probably with loud fans. David Correia Celebration Sound Warren, Rhode Island www.CelebrationSound.com |
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In article , Eric Desrochers
wrote: This form factor is what everyone will be shipping in a year or two except for the low priced spreads. I wouldn't count on that. Not for the el cheepo boxes. But it's only a matter of time before everyone is offering this design. They could have made all-in-one CRT machines, like the first generation iMac, but they didn't (beside a few failed attemps). That would have departed to their proven "box" design too much... I think part of the reason for failure is the mantra for PC's low low price. Costs a little more for a well designed, pretty box. Dell, a humungo corporation spends peanuts on R & D. Which stockholders love. How can you argue with their winning formula? In the current, 3rd generation iMac, power dissipation of the innefficient Pentiums might prevent either small or silent operation of the thing, compared to the iMac. I read recently that the biggest problem for heat in upcoming Macs will be the video cards. Pretty interesting. And it looks like Intel is taking the AMD lead to multicore chips, rather than strictly pursuing raw speed. Besides, it would cost too much for the expensive materials and fit and finish for most consumer PC buyers. So there'll be Wall Mart versions as well. Probably with loud fans. David Correia Celebration Sound Warren, Rhode Island www.CelebrationSound.com |
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Chris Hornbeck wrote:
It would be a terrible shame to lose the interchange-ability of ordinary PC computers. We abandoned that before liftoff, picking Macs. Oh, well... g -- ha |
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Chris Hornbeck wrote:
It would be a terrible shame to lose the interchange-ability of ordinary PC computers. We abandoned that before liftoff, picking Macs. Oh, well... g -- ha |
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That's pretty cool, a whole damn powerful computer
hanging 2" off a wall. Not to mention fitting in a 2ru drawer in your touring rack. Scott Fraser |
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That's pretty cool, a whole damn powerful computer
hanging 2" off a wall. Not to mention fitting in a 2ru drawer in your touring rack. Scott Fraser |
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Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:58:43 GMT, suggested:
: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 03:35:44 GMT, (hank alrich) : wrote: : : It would be a terrible shame to lose the interchange-ability of : ordinary PC computers. : :We abandoned that before liftoff, picking Macs. Oh, well... g : : Fine for all you Girly-Men, but us He-Man butch PC doods will : fight to the .... what was the question? : : But seriously, maybe the standardization of Firewire, etc. will : move things beyond the old/ current ATX format. Me; I'm poor/ cheap. : My current computer is still AT format. Good enough for me.) Supposedly there's already a new spec just about ready to replace ATX. Who knows how soon we'll start seeing them on the market: http://www.intel.com/update/contents/dt10031.htm -- agreenbu @ nyx . net andrew michael greenburg |
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