What is most suitable subwoofer for both
5.1 production studio, 2 channel + subwoofer production studio
and most difficult it should be suitable for little PA needs as well
in conference rooms and small presentations in places like that.

Main speakers are mainly Tannoy Reveal + Genelec 1029A so
nothing fancy but good bass response is needed.

best regards,
Jukka Andersson

Jukka Andersson wrote:
What is most suitable subwoofer for both
5.1 production studio, 2 channel + subwoofer production studio
and most difficult it should be suitable for little PA needs as well
in conference rooms and small presentations in places like that.

Main speakers are mainly Tannoy Reveal + Genelec 1029A so
nothing fancy but good bass response is needed.

Have you considered upgrading the Genelecs to something with better
low end response rather than adding a sub?

If you want actual and real extension, the Hsu Research subs are worth
looking into. But if you want to hear what it sounds on a typical home
system so you can predict what bass management in 5.1 playback will be
like, those are way too flat.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

If you have 1029A's then you should get a 7060A subwoofer. This is the
correct size for a 5.1 system with 1029A's.


"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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Have you considered upgrading the Genelecs to something with better
low end response rather than adding a sub?

If you're doing 5.1 then you will need a sub for the .1 channel.

Rik

Rik wrote:
If you have 1029A's then you should get a 7060A subwoofer. This is the
correct size for a 5.1 system with 1029A's.

Yes, but they don't integrate well at all. The crossover is so high that
you have no lower midrange imaging. I really can't see how people can work
on those things.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Rik wrote:
If you have 1029A's then you should get a 7060A subwoofer. This is the
correct size for a 5.1 system with 1029A's.

I found the 1029A's to be to honky sounding, didn't like them at all. They do
have a new line of 1029A's, if they sound any difrent than the older ones, I
know not.

"Raymond" wrote in message
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Rik wrote:
If you have 1029A's then you should get a 7060A subwoofer. This is the
correct size for a 5.1 system with 1029A's.

I found the 1029A's to be to honky sounding, didn't like them at all. They
do
have a new line of 1029A's, if they sound any difrent than the older ones,
I
know not.

Those Genelecs are for demoing and presentation use only - In studio I use
Tannoy Reveals as 1st part of production and have final listening with
1032A's (1030A's in surround) but there subwoofer is 1092A which does not
work together that well with 1032A's in my taste.

But anyway I am after compromise that does work with both monitors
Tannoys and Genelecs. Tannoy does not provide any good solution so its way
to Genelec
and probably 7060A.

Also there is 1091A with 1029A's now if that helps any bit (or do you think
it does
make things worse? to have something like 7060A, 1091A and 1029A's together
)

no, we are not getting anything bigger for main speakers, not this time.

..jukka

Jukka Andersson wrote:
know not.

Those Genelecs are for demoing and presentation use only - In studio I use
Tannoy Reveals as 1st part of production and have final listening with
1032A's (1030A's in surround) but there subwoofer is 1092A which does not
work together that well with 1032A's in my taste.

I bet you could make them work reasonably well together by using an outboard
crossover. The internal low-pass on the 1092A is way, way too high, but
an outboard crossover will fix that.

But anyway I am after compromise that does work with both monitors
Tannoys and Genelecs. Tannoy does not provide any good solution so its way
to Genelec
and probably 7060A.

I would pick the Hsu boxes over the Genelec, but the 7060A is a good unit.
You will almost certainly need an outboard crossover with the Tannoys, though.

Also there is 1091A with 1029A's now if that helps any bit (or do you think
it does
make things worse? to have something like 7060A, 1091A and 1029A's together
)

A lot of the 1029A problems have nothing to do with the low end, and the
problems that DO have to do with the low end can't be fixed with a sub.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Don't put the 1029A's the 1091A and a 7060A together. That's just asking for
trouble and will sound terrible. The 1091A is for stereo only as well.

The Low pass filter on the old Genelec subs (1092 and 1094) is 80Hz. On the
new 7000 series subs it's 85Hz with the LFE channel switchable to 120Hz.

The 1032A's go down to 42Hz and the 1092A goes to 33Hz. So if you bass
manage the 1032A's your not going to gain that much more LF extension with
the sub. What you could do is not bass manage the 1032A's and just use the
1092A for the LFE channel.

Genelec have a new line of small 2 way monitors which are replacing the
1029A, 30A's and 31A's. It's the 8000 series.

Scott: What is wrong with the 1029A's? what do you not like about them?

Rik

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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Jukka Andersson wrote:
know not.

Those Genelecs are for demoing and presentation use only - In studio I
use
Tannoy Reveals as 1st part of production and have final listening with
1032A's (1030A's in surround) but there subwoofer is 1092A which does not
work together that well with 1032A's in my taste.

I bet you could make them work reasonably well together by using an
outboard
crossover. The internal low-pass on the 1092A is way, way too high, but
an outboard crossover will fix that.

But anyway I am after compromise that does work with both monitors
Tannoys and Genelecs. Tannoy does not provide any good solution so its
way
to Genelec
and probably 7060A.

I would pick the Hsu boxes over the Genelec, but the 7060A is a good unit.
You will almost certainly need an outboard crossover with the Tannoys,
though.

Also there is 1091A with 1029A's now if that helps any bit (or do you
think
it does
make things worse? to have something like 7060A, 1091A and 1029A's
together
)

A lot of the 1029A problems have nothing to do with the low end, and the
problems that DO have to do with the low end can't be fixed with a sub.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Rik wrote:

Scott: What is wrong with the 1029A's? what do you not like about them?

The top end is screechy, the midrange is not at all natural, and there is
no bass extension. If you use a subwoofer, it has to be crossed over so
high that the transition is very obvious. The midrange issues, though,
really drive me up the wall. Female vocals sound very fake and "electronic."

I like the 1032 well enough, and I really like the S30s, but the 1029 just
doesn't sound like anything else in the Genelec line.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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Rik wrote:

Scott: What is wrong with the 1029A's? what do you not like about them?

The top end is screechy, the midrange is not at all natural, and there is
no bass extension. If you use a subwoofer, it has to be crossed over so
high that the transition is very obvious. The midrange issues, though,
really drive me up the wall. Female vocals sound very fake and
"electronic."

I like the 1032 well enough, and I really like the S30s, but the 1029 just
doesn't sound like anything else in the Genelec line.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

I have to admit with Scott - Have never really liked the sound of 1029's
but its really nice package (small, portable, light..) for its price and for
many applications sound is just good as it needs or even better.

We use a lot those in video DAW's here.

jukka