I'd like to know what's cheaper out there besides the seemingly
expensive SEKD prodif 88, and the new lynx AES 16. i need 4 AES pairs
in, 24/96 capability. thanks.

dufus

In article writes:

I'd like to know what's cheaper out there besides the seemingly
expensive SEKD prodif 88, and the new lynx AES 16. i need 4 AES pairs
in, 24/96 capability.

You're looking for the least common interface for the low-budget crowd
and unfortunately there isn't enough demand to make a cheap one.

Are you aware of the need for word clock synchronization when feeding
multiple AES/EBU inputs from diverse sources? That can push your
system cost up, too.


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In article znr1088592640k@trad, Mike Rivers wrote:

In article writes:

I'd like to know what's cheaper out there besides the seemingly
expensive SEKD prodif 88, and the new lynx AES 16. i need 4 AES pairs
in, 24/96 capability.

You're looking for the least common interface for the low-budget crowd
and unfortunately there isn't enough demand to make a cheap one.

RME makes a box that will split T-DIF or ADAT into four AES pairs, for
under a thousand bucks. You can add it to an existing ADAT or T-DIF
card and go.

Are you aware of the need for word clock synchronization when feeding
multiple AES/EBU inputs from diverse sources? That can push your
system cost up, too.

That's the real nightmare, yeah. But good master clock synch of everything
in the studio is probably a good idea anyway.
--scott
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(Scott Dorsey) writes:
RME makes a box that will split T-DIF or ADAT into four AES pairs, for
under a thousand bucks. You can add it to an existing ADAT or T-DIF
card and go.

Last I looked Tascam's TDIF-to-AES convertors were going dirt cheap on Ebay.
Also, there used to be a thread in the Tascam BB (when it was around), where
I *thought* someone had figured out how to build a breakout cable to
split TDIF into AES pairs.

In article writes:

I *thought* someone had figured out how to build a breakout cable to
split TDIF into AES pairs.

Just look up the pinout of the connector. It's close enough to AES/EBU
that most interfaces will talk to it. No guarantees, but it's a
relatively inexpensive experiment. Assuming you have the TDIF part
already.

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In article znr1088623164k@trad, Mike Rivers wrote:

In article writes:

I *thought* someone had figured out how to build a breakout cable to
split TDIF into AES pairs.

Just look up the pinout of the connector. It's close enough to AES/EBU
that most interfaces will talk to it. No guarantees, but it's a
relatively inexpensive experiment. Assuming you have the TDIF part
already.

I'd be interested in talking to someone who has actually done this. It
does look like it might actually work.
--scott

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(Scott Dorsey) writes:

Just look up the pinout of the connector. It's close enough to AES/EBU
that most interfaces will talk to it. No guarantees, but it's a
relatively inexpensive experiment. Assuming you have the TDIF part
already.

I'd be interested in talking to someone who has actually done this. It
does look like it might actually work.
--scott

Yeah, I'd like to try this myself.

so is there a spdif version of what i seek? if i have to, i'd be
willing to fart around with 4 of those Neutrik AES to spdif converter
thingys that provide proper Z conversion fron 110 to 75 ohm.

Are you aware of the need for word clock synchronization when feeding
multiple AES/EBU inputs from diverse sources? That can push your
system cost up, too.

yes, i was thinking from the standpoint of a lavry blue setup, which
internally shares clock amongst it modules, but offers only AES/EBU
output. but i've been trying out a lavry blue two-channel-loaded AD
unit, and it so far doesn't seem to be totally smokin my sonorus AD24,
surprisingly. didn't slay my friend's digi002, either, and we had
some royer goin on, some api4312 goin on drums. maybe my signals
aren't good enuf to reveal real differences, or i'm deaf, but i
expected more "wow". don't have enough gold for the lavry gold. blue
might go back for a mic pre.

Du

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m...
...i've been trying out a lavry blue two-channel-loaded AD unit, and it so
far
doesn't seem to be totally smokin my sonorus AD24, surprisingly.

I would compare how it takes digital eq. and what a bunch of tracks mixed
together sounds like before concluding the Lavry isn't worth it. The
Benchmark I've been using doesn't sound all that different in an A vs. B
comparison but the final results have frequently been night and day.

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dufus wrote:

so is there a spdif version of what i seek?

Maybe - but multiple digital source still have to synchronised. It's part
of doing things the *digital way*.

The same holds true for video btw.

If you want to mix *random sources* then analogue is the way to go.

if i have to, i'd be
willing to fart around with 4 of those Neutrik AES to spdif converter
thingys that provide proper Z conversion fron 110 to 75 ohm.

That's not the issue.

Avoiding top-posting would also make it clearer to others following this
thread.


Graham


Are you aware of the need for word clock synchronization when feeding
multiple AES/EBU inputs from diverse sources? That can push your
system cost up, too.

yes, i was thinking from the standpoint of a lavry blue setup, which
internally shares clock amongst it modules, but offers only AES/EBU
output. but i've been trying out a lavry blue two-channel-loaded AD
unit, and it so far doesn't seem to be totally smokin my sonorus AD24,
surprisingly. didn't slay my friend's digi002, either, and we had
some royer goin on, some api4312 goin on drums. maybe my signals
aren't good enuf to reveal real differences, or i'm deaf, but i
expected more "wow". don't have enough gold for the lavry gold. blue
might go back for a mic pre.

Du

what is "top-posting"?

the 4 aes or spdif pairs would all be coming from one unit, the lavry
blue loaded w/ 4 MAD modules. this thing shares clock amongst all its
modules, so they are all in sync; this data was included in my
response to Mike, if you read it carefully. i'm not talking about
disparate sources.

Du

This.


In article writes:

what is "top-posting"?

And in case you don't understand, this is not. "Top posting" is the
practice of putting a reply above the original message. So you see the
reply before you know what the post is about is.

This is usually called "in-line posting" where the reply is
interspersed with relevant portions of the original message.

There's another style that's as annoying to read as top-posting, and
that's where the responder quotes the entire original message in one
lump and then proceeds to write a reply in one lump. It's like you're
reading a (usually not very well written) paper from someone who isn't
quite an authority.

the 4 aes or spdif pairs would all be coming from one unit, the lavry
blue loaded w/ 4 MAD modules. this thing shares clock amongst all its
modules, so they are all in sync

You'd still need to synchronize the A/D converter with the computer
interface. I suspect that RME, being pretty advanced in their
implementations, might have a mode where all of the inputs are
synchronized to the same clock source, either an external word clock
input (from the converter) or from your choice of one of the AES/EBU
inputs. But I don't really know.

The Lynx 16-channel AES/EBU interface has a mode where all of the
inputs are re-clocked to whatever you're using as a word clock
reference, which guarantees synchronization between all outputs and
all inputs.

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