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On 2004-05-27
ospam(WillStG) said:

Will's right, there are such safeguards, but the big guns can
work around such minor details as the rules and regs.
I didn't say that Capitalism doesn't still have problems or that
abuses of the system don't exist. I said 19th century and 21st
Century capitlaism are different - and this is true. And public
ownership of large companies - the "Democratization" of capital -
puts the lie to much of what Marx and Engels predicted.
In any event the problems of our economic system in no way prove
that any other system - or having no system at all - is a better
way. Again, merely criticizing something doesn't mean you have a
solution or anything better at all to offer. That there were
people stupid enough to think different only led to genocide, mass
murder and totalitarianism; under the Nazis, under the Fascists,
and under the banner of Marxist revolution. For all it's problems
Capitalism still works best as an economic model, socialism has
even more problems then Captalism does but at least it's a
functional system. Unlike Marxist economics which has been proven
to be total bull**** in theory and in practice.

True enough. I studied all the different theories when I was younger.
I always figured that understanding the so-called enemy was the first
thing one should do.

Since I've come to basically the same conclusions as a young man I
became a libertarian. tO me it's about leveling the playing field.
The so-called regulators can only be bought off by those who have the
dough, as in "he who has the gold makes the rules." THerefore, less
intrusion by government into my business bedroom and elsewhere is
always preferred.



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On 2004-05-27
ospam(WillStG) said:

Will's right, there are such safeguards, but the big guns can
work around such minor details as the rules and regs.
I didn't say that Capitalism doesn't still have problems or that
abuses of the system don't exist. I said 19th century and 21st
Century capitlaism are different - and this is true. And public
ownership of large companies - the "Democratization" of capital -
puts the lie to much of what Marx and Engels predicted.
In any event the problems of our economic system in no way prove
that any other system - or having no system at all - is a better
way. Again, merely criticizing something doesn't mean you have a
solution or anything better at all to offer. That there were
people stupid enough to think different only led to genocide, mass
murder and totalitarianism; under the Nazis, under the Fascists,
and under the banner of Marxist revolution. For all it's problems
Capitalism still works best as an economic model, socialism has
even more problems then Captalism does but at least it's a
functional system. Unlike Marxist economics which has been proven
to be total bull**** in theory and in practice.

True enough. I studied all the different theories when I was younger.
I always figured that understanding the so-called enemy was the first
thing one should do.

Since I've come to basically the same conclusions as a young man I
became a libertarian. tO me it's about leveling the playing field.
The so-called regulators can only be bought off by those who have the
dough, as in "he who has the gold makes the rules." THerefore, less
intrusion by government into my business bedroom and elsewhere is
always preferred.



Richard Webb
Electric Spider Productions
REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email

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On 2004-05-27
ospam(WillStG) said:

Will's right, there are such safeguards, but the big guns can
work around such minor details as the rules and regs.
I didn't say that Capitalism doesn't still have problems or that
abuses of the system don't exist. I said 19th century and 21st
Century capitlaism are different - and this is true. And public
ownership of large companies - the "Democratization" of capital -
puts the lie to much of what Marx and Engels predicted.
In any event the problems of our economic system in no way prove
that any other system - or having no system at all - is a better
way. Again, merely criticizing something doesn't mean you have a
solution or anything better at all to offer. That there were
people stupid enough to think different only led to genocide, mass
murder and totalitarianism; under the Nazis, under the Fascists,
and under the banner of Marxist revolution. For all it's problems
Capitalism still works best as an economic model, socialism has
even more problems then Captalism does but at least it's a
functional system. Unlike Marxist economics which has been proven
to be total bull**** in theory and in practice.

True enough. I studied all the different theories when I was younger.
I always figured that understanding the so-called enemy was the first
thing one should do.

Since I've come to basically the same conclusions as a young man I
became a libertarian. tO me it's about leveling the playing field.
The so-called regulators can only be bought off by those who have the
dough, as in "he who has the gold makes the rules." THerefore, less
intrusion by government into my business bedroom and elsewhere is
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Electric Spider Productions
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On 2004-05-31
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I find nothing wrong with being religious, just

something wrong with HAVING religion, particularly religion that
allows one to specify that others are wrong, or others are so
different that they don't deserve the grace of god. If one places
the onus on me to be religious based on their precepts, then either
I'm going to hell with their help, or I'm simply a man that has my
own ideas about what religion consists of, and I have my own method
of meeting my god. Am I religious? Well if you are meeting God
personally it doesn't really matter much what people say about your
faith, does it? What others think only matters when you are looking
for approval, or if you beleive a relationship with a particular
person or institution is needed for personal growth or to gain
God's approval. Why does it matter to you what "The Church" has to
say if you're sure of where you stand with the Allmighty? I mean it
ain't Protestantism unless you can start your own denomination.
Hey, you're giving a sermon right here, ain't ya? You'll fit right
in.

And there you have the crux of the biscuit. I choose to believe there
is a god, even though I was raised as a Christian (united church of
Christ) I looked into some of the others. I left it all at one point
but came back to it.

I do believe that if I'm right and God exists he doesn't care so much
about how you genuflected in the presence of other humans. HIs real
concern is what you did with the talents and abilities you were
endowed with while you were alive.

Regards,




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On 2004-05-31
ospam(WillStG) said:
I find nothing wrong with being religious, just

something wrong with HAVING religion, particularly religion that
allows one to specify that others are wrong, or others are so
different that they don't deserve the grace of god. If one places
the onus on me to be religious based on their precepts, then either
I'm going to hell with their help, or I'm simply a man that has my
own ideas about what religion consists of, and I have my own method
of meeting my god. Am I religious? Well if you are meeting God
personally it doesn't really matter much what people say about your
faith, does it? What others think only matters when you are looking
for approval, or if you beleive a relationship with a particular
person or institution is needed for personal growth or to gain
God's approval. Why does it matter to you what "The Church" has to
say if you're sure of where you stand with the Allmighty? I mean it
ain't Protestantism unless you can start your own denomination.
Hey, you're giving a sermon right here, ain't ya? You'll fit right
in.

And there you have the crux of the biscuit. I choose to believe there
is a god, even though I was raised as a Christian (united church of
Christ) I looked into some of the others. I left it all at one point
but came back to it.

I do believe that if I'm right and God exists he doesn't care so much
about how you genuflected in the presence of other humans. HIs real
concern is what you did with the talents and abilities you were
endowed with while you were alive.

Regards,




Richard Webb
Electric Spider Productions
REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email

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