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(OT)..... What Would 'They' Do With $87 Billion Dollars??
ryanm wrote:
"B.F. Goodrich" wrote in message . com... Can it be ANY WORSE? Bush has made it embarrasing to be an American! It took Bush to make you embarrassed? I submit that you simply weren't paying attention before. Any look at a bus tour of Americans in Europe is enough to make me embarrassed, but Bush has definitely made for a bad example abroad. The sad thing is that Bush's father was actually a pretty good leader. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
The sad thing is that Bush's father was actually a pretty good leader. Bush 43's performance has had me thinking the same thing of late, and you would certainly never have heard me utter anything like that a few years back. Bush 41 at least acted like he stayed awake during history class. |
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Kurt Albershardt wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote: The sad thing is that Bush's father was actually a pretty good leader. Bush 43's performance has had me thinking the same thing of late, and you would certainly never have heard me utter anything like that a few years back. Bush 41 at least acted like he stayed awake during history class. I was sorry when Bush 41 got elected, but he did a lot better than I had expected and surely a lot better than his predicessor. He at least tried to slow the destruction of the broadcast industry that Reagan and Clinton accelerated. I was in the Phillipines, though, when Vice President Bush gave a talk about how great Marcos was and how he had built a great democracy in the pacific. This was after about thirty years of martial law, political prisoners being filled with pounded hot peppers, and so forth. Democracies like that this world doesn't need. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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people are getting tortured, and killed on both
sides, our good name is getting dragged through the mud, and we're paying for it. It ain't 'cute'. Many here seem to think that we have no "good name." John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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On 05 May 2004 04:02:20 GMT, ospam (WillStG) wrote:
Jay Kadis Fan mail from some flounder? Flounder, flip flop whatever, if John Kerry _means_ what he says NOW, perhaps the insurgents will get depressed that no matter who gets elected they will likely face the same treatment. And of course you can always figure he's just saying such things 'cause he *has to* in order to get elected, same thing with his position on Gay marriage. So vote for John F. Kerry, he's really just lying! Now _that's_ a campaign slogan. I don't really like Kerry that much... but it doesn't matter. This coming election is really going to be a referedum on Bush. It doesn't matter who the dems run as far as many voters are concerned. Al |
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seems like we lived in a safer world when all these countries that now
hate us used to tolerate or be neutral twards us All depends who is getting paid. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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If only there were more like you Roger.
"Roger W. Norman" writes: America needs to stand up and take this country back, return to the values of friendship with other countries in the world and regain the moral high ground so that we may help lead the world toward the erradication of disease, starvation, illiteracy and war. Pretty much the rest of the problem's solutions will follow along. What a waste of human life. |
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Arny Krueger" wrote in message
news  That's an interesting irony, isn't it? It's damned sure something that even I thought about, so how not these powerful mofos that are supposed to know this ****? In fact, I believe I brought it up about November of 2002 right here. And how come we haven't heard anything more on the oil depot attacks of last week? Ooops, we thought something happened but we were wrong? -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio " |
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Roger W. Norman wrote: Actually, it's gotten far worse than that, Worse than what? Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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ospam (WillStG) wrote: Jay Kadis Fan mail from some flounder? Flounder, flip flop whatever, if John Kerry _means_ what he says NOW, perhaps the insurgents will get depressed that no matter who gets elected they will likely face the same treatment. [snip] Not a Rocky and Bullwinkle fan as I suspected... -Jay -- x------- Jay Kadis ------- x---- Jay's Attic Studio ------x x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x x-------- http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/~jay/ ----------x |
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"Jay Kadis" wrote in message
... Not a Rocky and Bullwinkle fan as I suspected... I'm getting old. Exactly what I thought, but I simply couldn't believe someone brought it up. Hurray for esoterica, may it slowly disappear into the past where we can easily retrieve it with the wayback machine, Mr. Peabody. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio |
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"Roger W. Norman" wrote: "Jay Kadis" wrote in message ... Not a Rocky and Bullwinkle fan as I suspected... I'm getting old. Exactly what I thought, but I simply couldn't believe someone brought it up. Hurray for esoterica, may it slowly disappear into the past where we can easily retrieve it with the wayback machine, Mr. Peabody. It seemed a proper reply to Will's string of irrelevent nonsequitors. -Jay -- x------- Jay Kadis ------- x---- Jay's Attic Studio ------x x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x x-------- http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/~jay/ ----------x |
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"Bob Cain" wrote in message
... Worse than what? Than depending on who got paid. Ok, O-****ing-K. I meant to do the editing, but I'm still getting called to check certain types of work like the tumbled stone tile going into the bathroom. I realize it looks normal for me, but if you go through most of the other posts I don't think I did top posting on all of them. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio |
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"Jay Kadis" wrote in message
... It seemed a proper reply to Will's string of irrelevent nonsequitors. Will, like the Bush Administration, is of little value other than the rhetoric, and the facts are now outshining the rhetoric. He's an anarchism in the wealth of opposing information we now have, and Fox News becomes less of a News organization and the Foxes are starting to look quite dumb to most everybody. 43% agree with the war and with the fallout of the "abuse", expect it to get worse. Can we expect anything but a late October surprise of capturing Osama Bin Laden? Will that even help? -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio In article , "Roger W. Norman" wrote: "Jay Kadis" wrote in message ... Not a Rocky and Bullwinkle fan as I suspected... I'm getting old. Exactly what I thought, but I simply couldn't believe someone brought it up. Hurray for esoterica, may it slowly disappear into the past where we can easily retrieve it with the wayback machine, Mr. Peabody. -Jay -- x------- Jay Kadis ------- x---- Jay's Attic Studio ------x x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x x-------- http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/~jay/ ----------x |
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ospam (WillStG) wrote: "Roger W. Norman" Will, like the Bush Administration, is of little value other than the rhetoric, and the facts are now outshining the rhetoric. Yeah right, *you're* little Miss All-Important who would never make a rhetorical comment, eh Roger? No, if everyone would just follow the pages and pages of "valuable" incisive guidance you've posted here on RAP, why we'd have world peace and there would be no Al Quada anymore, right Roger? You have had almost nothing constructive to say for a long time, all you do is bitch, bitch, bitch. Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits If it weren't for his occasional audio-related posts, I'd swear Will was simply a bot. His responses seem programmed. -Jay -- x------- Jay Kadis ------- x---- Jay's Attic Studio ------x x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x x-------- http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/~jay/ ----------x |
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Yeah right, *you're* little Miss All-Important who would never make a
rhetorical comment, eh Roger? No, if everyone would just follow the pages and pages of "valuable" incisive guidance you've posted here on RAP, why we'd have world peace and there would be no Al Quada anymore, right Roger? You have had almost nothing constructive to say for a long time, all you do is bitch, bitch, bitch. Hmmm. Typical. Not topical, but certainly typical. Did you keep all these "valuable" posts, Will, or are you just trying to remember through the fog of the Burning Bush? I have everything I've written here since 5/13/2002. I believe I can pull up any and all examples from that time forward where I've specifically pointed to the way the war was going to go, somewhere from almost a 6 months prior. However, after a search, the first post I see that has anything political in it from 2002 is, surprisingly enough, July 4th, 2002, and it's directed at you and has something to do about the Patriot Act. I quote the beginning of the passage below for google purposes. "A) The "Patriot Act" hasn't been tested in court and may well be found not to be Constitutional... " And here's where the dredded top posting comes into play. Not only do I have all my responses to your posts where I top post, but I have all your responses. It's a book in itself. Not a good one, mind you, but a book indeed! g Bud, you're going to have to go the extra mile here. And if you haven't figured out that being directly derogatory to me bounces off like water off a duck's back, then I guess you won't. But since this is a public forum, I keep what I write and it includes what you write, in toto. No google searching here, so context is the key. My concerns for those fighting and dying aren't bitching just as those tears from the families of the fallen aren't crocodile tears. If you choose to say, "that's the price of freedom" then I say to you that freedom is way too easily bought for you and those that would risk the lives of other people's loved ones for their own personal freedoms. And I don't know why you complain. I feel just as strongly that your family was wronged during WWII as I feel that those of Islamic faith who are either guests in our country or citizens have been wronged by the actions of this government. I hold no truck with either. I hold no truck with moving the wronging of Americans to other peoples throughout the world, moving "suspect" people to countries that will utilize torture, to saying "**** it" and just simply using abuse and torture ourselves with the deniability of "corporate security individuals", even as I abhor the fact that Bush decided that American's were the first to have to pass the test of your loudly proclaimed "patriotism". Bush spirited more Saudis out of the country when no other airliners were flying than those that perpetrated the attacks on America, and of those, fully 1/3 were Bin Laden family. Any WAR President would know that one has to hold those people for interrogation, were they not personal friends of the family. I believe your own President has cut your legs out from under you way down past a stub. Which is only fair since so many are coming home limbless these days. Do you realize that the severely injured list is upwards of 20,000 Americans who won't have a normal life ever again? Do you imagine it will be nice for any one of those guys who, in later life, finally does something decent like run for Congress and then has THE PRESIDENT's own party organization bash him for his "un-patriotic" life and "soft on terror" voting record? Can you imagine leaving an arm or a leg on the battlefield of a foreign country only to have it chewed on by feral dogs and dung beetles with you then being attacked for your lack of patriotism? I'm sorry, Will, but the **** YOUs should be yelling out to you from all over the world. The words I write here are of little import in comparison to that rousing cry. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio "WillStG" wrote in message ... "Roger W. Norman" Will, like the Bush Administration, is of little value other than the rhetoric, and the facts are now outshining the rhetoric. Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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I don't know, George. I vote, I call my representatives, I email, and have
even emailed John Kerry, William Pitt and a number of others. I see the same cautious moves in congress, and the same stupid mistakes I warned Kerry about. I don't blame them. Will doesn't believe I should have a voice, so why should they? -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio "georgeh" wrote in message ... If only there were more like you Roger. "Roger W. Norman" writes: America needs to stand up and take this country back, return to the values of friendship with other countries in the world and regain the moral high ground so that we may help lead the world toward the erradication of disease, starvation, illiteracy and war. Pretty much the rest of the problem's solutions will follow along. What a waste of human life. |
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"Roger W. Norman" wrote in message ... Yeah right, *you're* little Miss All-Important who would never make a rhetorical comment, eh Roger? No, if everyone would just follow the pages and pages of "valuable" incisive guidance you've posted here on RAP, why we'd have world peace and there would be no Al Quada anymore, right Roger? You have had almost nothing constructive to say for a long time, all you do is bitch, bitch, bitch. Hmmm. Typical. Not topical, but certainly typical. Did you keep all these "valuable" posts, Will, or are you just trying to remember through the fog of the Burning Bush? I have everything I've written here since 5/13/2002. I believe I can pull up any and all examples from that time forward where I've specifically pointed to the way the war was going to go, somewhere from almost a 6 months prior. However, after a search, the first post I see that has anything political in it from 2002 is, surprisingly enough, July 4th, 2002, and it's directed at you and has something to do about the Patriot Act. I quote the beginning of the passage below for google purposes. "A) The "Patriot Act" hasn't been tested in court and may well be found not to be Constitutional... " And here's where the dredded top posting comes into play. Not only do I have all my responses to your posts where I top post, but I have all your responses. It's a book in itself. Not a good one, mind you, but a book indeed! g Bud, you're going to have to go the extra mile here. And if you haven't figured out that being directly derogatory to me bounces off like water off a duck's back, then I guess you won't. But since this is a public forum, I keep what I write and it includes what you write, in toto. No google searching here, so context is the key. My concerns for those fighting and dying aren't bitching just as those tears from the families of the fallen aren't crocodile tears. If you choose to say, "that's the price of freedom" then I say to you that freedom is way too easily bought for you and those that would risk the lives of other people's loved ones for their own personal freedoms. And I don't know why you complain. I feel just as strongly that your family was wronged during WWII as I feel that those of Islamic faith who are either guests in our country or citizens have been wronged by the actions of this government. I hold no truck with either. I hold no truck with moving the wronging of Americans to other peoples throughout the world, moving "suspect" people to countries that will utilize torture, to saying "**** it" and just simply using abuse and torture ourselves with the deniability of "corporate security individuals", even as I abhor the fact that Bush decided that American's were the first to have to pass the test of your loudly proclaimed "patriotism". Bush spirited more Saudis out of the country when no other airliners were flying than those that perpetrated the attacks on America, and of those, fully 1/3 were Bin Laden family. Any WAR President would know that one has to hold those people for interrogation, were they not personal friends of the family. I believe your own President has cut your legs out from under you way down past a stub. Which is only fair since so many are coming home limbless these days. Do you realize that the severely injured list is upwards of 20,000 Americans who won't have a normal life ever again? Do you imagine it will be nice for any one of those guys who, in later life, finally does something decent like run for Congress and then has THE PRESIDENT's own party organization bash him for his "un-patriotic" life and "soft on terror" voting record? Can you imagine leaving an arm or a leg on the battlefield of a foreign country only to have it chewed on by feral dogs and dung beetles with you then being attacked for your lack of patriotism? I'm sorry, Will, but the **** YOUs should be yelling out to you from all over the world. The words I write here are of little import in comparison to that rousing cry. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio "WillStG" wrote in message ... "Roger W. Norman" Will, like the Bush Administration, is of little value other than the rhetoric, and the facts are now outshining the rhetoric. Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits There's more to come about this administration. Ever wonder why Air Force escort planes weren't called immediately when controllers realized planes were going off flight-plan on 9/11? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004May6.html RB |
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Jay Kadis wrote:
If it weren't for his occasional audio-related posts, I'd swear Will was simply a bot. His responses seem programmed. A proper bot would read for content, and reply in context. -- ha |
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On Thu, May 6, 2004 2:04 PM, WillStG wrote:
You have had almost nothing constructive to say for a long time, all you do is bitch, bitch, bitch. He served his country, you didn't! End of story. There are a lot of 'armchair quarterbacks' and 'cheerleaders', with big mouths, and nothing to back it up. |
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On Thu, May 6, 2004 6:22 PM, WillStG wrote:
You have the typical leftist's disease, your attitude is like you think criticism and bitching and undercutting makes you a better person than those you criticize. **** playing the Devil is easy, but it takes a man to be constructive and find a better way. Fact is you haven't got a solution for anything - not even in a Presidential candidate. What do you expect when the neo-liberal agenda runs both parties in your country. And Pussies like William J Miho, of Park Ave New Rochelle NY won't even confront any real questions |
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On Thu, May 6, 2004 8:08 PM, RB wrote:
There's more to come about this administration. Ever wonder why Air Force escort planes weren't called immediately when controllers realized planes were going off flight-plan on 9/11? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004May6.html RB Ever wonder why you probably won't get a chance to see the new Michael Moore movie til after November? Ever wonder what happened to the business about UN ambasadors being spyed on by the US? Cheney's indictment on conspiracey and bribery charges ( not reported in any american media) for aranging the assasinations of African leaders. Ever wonder why Pussies like William J Miho of Park Ave New Rochelle NY constantly trolls his support for the Bush Crime family? |
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ospam (WillStG) wrote: (hank alrich) Jay Kadis wrote: If it weren't for his occasional audio-related posts, I'd swear Will was simply a bot. His responses seem programmed. A proper bot would read for content, and reply in context. I understand Jay's difficulty in following a train of thought, he works at a University. But Hank what's your excuse? The same university that gave you Condoleeza and the rest of the Hoover Institution... I can follow your train of thought alright, it just doesn't stay on the tracks. -Jay -- x------- Jay Kadis ------- x---- Jay's Attic Studio ------x x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x x-------- http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/~jay/ ----------x |
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"WillStG" wrote in message
... Like I said yeah, I hear you clearly Roger. You have the typical leftist's disease, your attitude is like you think criticism and bitching and undercutting makes you a better person than those you criticize. **** playing the Devil is easy, but it takes a man to be constructive and find a better way. Fact is you haven't got a solution for anything - not even in a Presidential candidate. I don't know why you keep referring to me as a leftist. I did choose Clinton and then Gore, but prior to that I voted for Bush41 and Reagan, but voted for Carter for his first term. Seems like I picked 4 out of 5 winners, none of whom would I consider Leftist, certainly not in the republican arena. And I've since had my eyes opened on who was really a good President and not. I'm not willing to let HISTORY judge Bush43. He needs judging NOW. You seem to think this is political and you want to make my concern for Americans dying in a bad war something less than a real concern. But you see, I know what happens to our fellows when they come back and get stomped on by the people and by the selfsame government that put them into harm's way in the first place, and this is what I'm trying to talk about. You wanna make it about Bush bashing and about me being a Leftist (just short, in your venacular, of being a communist (the bad kind)), then fine, because you obviously are not reading the words I've written or your comprehension is on some other level. I care about this country and I know that might doesn't always make right unless it's the last alternative, and even then we haven't always pulled it off. I'm positive that there are too many skeletons in the closet and there are too many ties to people and countries that can quickly shut the US down because of our dependence upon their good will (people) and their oil (countries). Do you remember 1973 and the Oil Embargo? These people have already made it clear they can shut down the US or force Americans into new habits, like buying Pintos instead of VistaCruisers. But you want to make it about me; that I'm nothing but a complainer, bitching all the time, and never coming up with any solutions and I even have a bad candidate for President. Geez, would you like to come over and kick my ****ing puppy too? And if you do hear me clearly, then you have very good ears, my friend, because I'm pretty certain that my cries are drowned out by the cries of the rest of the world like the reflected light from another system's planet is overshadowed by the light of its own sun. That's how bad it is. I said directly after 9/11 and I still say it. We will become more like the terrorists in this "war on terror" that commits this country and it's people to a never ending war. You know the words. You can kill a terrorist with bullets and bombs, but you can't kill terrorism with the same weaponry. It's a disease, and you can only dry up the scum from which it feeds by recognizing the culture that feeds it. If it's true in a petri dish, it's damned sure true in the rest of the world, unless you're willing to try to target Arab genetics with some type of weapon that decimates only them and leaves all of us here. Which makes us as bad as the terrorists and worse. And if it's not obvious that we are a ship floundering rudderless in a rough sea, then I don't know how I can make you see it. At least maybe I can get you to wear a lifejacket. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio "Roger W. Norman" Bud, you're going to have to go the extra mile here. And if you haven't figured out that being directly derogatory to me bounces off like water off a duck's back, then I guess you won't. But since this is a public forum, I keep what I write and it includes what you write, in toto. It doesn't surprise me at all that you think my remarks were derogatory - but your comments directed at me were of course not. Clearly, you think your **** don't stink. Fine. You make my point. I'm sorry, Will, but the **** YOUs should be yelling out to you from all over the world. The words I write here are of little import in comparison to that rousing cry. Will Miho NY Music & TV Audio Guy Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits |
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WillStG wrote: "Roger W. Norman" I don't know why you keep referring to me as a leftist. Yeah, and you weren't deliberately insulting me either. You eventually resort to making everything about you. Get over yourself. Bob --- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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Roger W. Norman wrote: "Bob Cain" wrote in message ... Worse than what? Than depending on who got paid. Ok, O-****ing-K. :-) Just a gentle nudge, Roger. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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"Bob Cain" wrote in message
... :-) Just a gentle nudge, Roger. I caught it. I assume I used "it" twice, one for one subject and again for another subject, so specifying is necessary. I can't type as fast as my brain tells me what to write, which is why I sometimes have an hour between posts. It takes a long time to proof-read, and I don't always catch the mistakes. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio |
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"WillStG" wrote in message ... George Will we don't have to insult you, your doing a fine job of it on your own George it is well known you never had typing skills, now your reading comprehension is failing as well? Hummm, seems this was the only thing in my post Will could take exception too. Guess even Will can't hide from the truth forever George --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.676 / Virus Database: 438 - Release Date: 5/3/2004 |
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WillStG wrote:
(hank alrich) Jay Kadis wrote: If it weren't for his occasional audio-related posts, I'd swear Will was simply a bot. His responses seem programmed. A proper bot would read for content, and reply in context. I understand Jay's difficulty in following a train of thought, he works at a University. But Hank what's your excuse? You, dear Will, are an outright ****in' comedy act on wheels when it comes to sticking to topics and replying in context. Jay's level of coherence makes you look like you can't get the alphabet blocks to stack. No wonder shrub's your man; you guys exhibit similar levels of incapacity. -- ha |
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WillStG wrote:
Yeah, and you weren't deliberately insulting me either. You poor deer; you poor deer in the headlights. -- ha |
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Bob Cain wrote:
WillStG wrote: Yeah, and you weren't deliberately insulting me either. You eventually resort to making everything about you. Get over yourself. Better: "Corporal Miho! Get under yourself!" -- ha |
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On Fri, May 7, 2004 7:00 PM, hank alrich
wrote: Bob Cain wrote: WillStG wrote: Yeah, and you weren't deliberately insulting me either. You eventually resort to making everything about you. Get over yourself. Better: "Corporal Miho! Get under yourself!" But what about some answers from William J Miho.. What's with America's State controlled Rape Rooms, mass graves and torture chambers? You can't Answer this at all Can you Will, your Facade of Lies is cracking, your bull**** teflon no longer works. America went ahead and did all the things that they lied about Saddam doing. Justify yourself loser. Or stay at home playing your lame stuck in the 70s christian blues-rock. |
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