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Hello, Peasants,
The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound is finally in print. I figure that all of you hot shots would like to hear the news. I got my two-volume, 1200+ page, "editors" free copy yesterday. I am on the title page as the "technical editor," which is kind of a surprise. Yes, I did review all the technical articles and updated quite a large number. I also wrote a few new ones, and of course I did all of the biographical sketches of audio big wigs, plus some company histories. However, I think the people at Routledge did a heck of a lot more than I did. Perhaps 10% of the total material in this new edition was written or modified by me. I suppose that adds up to maybe 120 text pages. Not bad, but still no huge amount. Still, it is many times as much as most of you people have put into a book. Add in my previous four books (written solely by me, of course), and you have quite a contrast between the typical RAO goofball and Ferstler. Incidentally, my name is on many of the articles, but there are also many shorter articles there that have no byline name at all that I also wrote. It must really kill some of you clowns to think that Routledge, a major member of the British/American Taylor-Francis publishing group, has a book out there that has Ferstler as a major contributor. Although many audio notables are in the books, it is still primarily a music-oriented publication, with scads of bios of performers and much dealing with the history of recorded music. Surely, many of you RAO zeros would like to have a book like this to raise your music-knowledg number a bit above that zero. You might learn something worthwhile about audio, too. The two-volume set lists for $225.00, which means that it will definitely be an academic or technical library item, and will not be something the average tweako-geeko would purchase to round out his literary collection. Does cost less than a set of super-duper wires, however. Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Hello, Peasants, The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound is finally in print. I figure that all of you hot shots would like to hear the news. I got my two-volume, 1200+ page, "editors" free copy yesterday. I am on the title page as the "technical editor," which is kind of a surprise. Yes, I did review all the technical articles and updated quite a large number. I also wrote a few new ones, and of course I did all of the biographical sketches of audio big wigs, plus some company histories. However, I think the people at Routledge did a heck of a lot more than I did. Perhaps 10% of the total material in this new edition was written or modified by me. I suppose that adds up to maybe 120 text pages. Not bad, but still no huge amount. Still, it is many times as much as most of you people have put into a book. Add in my previous four books (written solely by me, of course), and you have quite a contrast between the typical RAO goofball and Ferstler. Incidentally, my name is on many of the articles, but there are also many shorter articles there that have no byline name at all that I also wrote. It must really kill some of you clowns to think that Routledge, a major member of the British/American Taylor-Francis publishing group, has a book out there that has Ferstler as a major contributor. Although many audio notables are in the books, it is still primarily a music-oriented publication, with scads of bios of performers and much dealing with the history of recorded music. Surely, many of you RAO zeros would like to have a book like this to raise your music-knowledg number a bit above that zero. You might learn something worthwhile about audio, too. The two-volume set lists for $225.00, which means that it will definitely be an academic or technical library item, and will not be something the average tweako-geeko would purchase to round out his literary collection. Does cost less than a set of super-duper wires, however. Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound better |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Hello, Peasants, The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound is finally in print. I figure that all of you hot shots would like to hear the news. I got my two-volume, 1200+ page, "editors" free copy yesterday. I am on the title page as the "technical editor," which is kind of a surprise. Yes, I did review all the technical articles and updated quite a large number. I also wrote a few new ones, and of course I did all of the biographical sketches of audio big wigs, plus some company histories. However, I think the people at Routledge did a heck of a lot more than I did. Perhaps 10% of the total material in this new edition was written or modified by me. Howard, in all seriousness, you, as a librarian, probably possess considerable ability to collate and organize facts. However, you lack KNOWLEDGE and JUDGMENT. It has been observed multitudinous times that you are deficient in what you know, and deficient in how you perceive. It is unfortunate that the publishing press, like the reporting press, frequently becomes trapped by reams of information they don't know how to interpret. So it is here. You have collated and arranged material so it fits on a page, nothing more. Our elementary schools teach "don't believe something just because it appears in a book." Your tome is a towering reminder of this good advice, a Mausoleum of Mediocrity. |
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Clyde Slick wrote:
Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound better Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book. Eat your heart out, goofball. Howard Ferstler |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick wrote: Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound better Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book. I am sure you have 2 cd players. |
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Robert Morein wrote:
Howard, in all seriousness, you, as a librarian, probably possess considerable ability to collate and organize facts. I was never a librarian. I was what is called a library technical assistant. Note that I did not collate or organize anything in the book. Here is what I did: 1. I wrote many new technical articles that were not in the first edition (the new one is the second edition). 2. I wrote many biographical sketches of audio notables. There were none in the first edition. 3. I wrote many company history articles. There were only a few in the first edition. 4. I rewrote many of the technical articles that had been in the first edition. 5. I read through all of the earlier technical articles and fact checked them, often adding additional information at the end related to new developments. However, you lack KNOWLEDGE and JUDGMENT. Hey, buddy boy, need I mention again that I am in print, and you do not get that way by being on your level. What's more, the editor originally contacted me for the work, and not the other way around. He did so, because he had heard of me and knew of my previous work. I would say that he was more than adequately impressed with my knowledge and judgment. Note that this is my fifth book. How many have you published, pal? It is you clowns, with your moronic views concerning audio, who have problems with knowledge and judgment. It has been observed multitudinous times that you are deficient in what you know, and deficient in how you perceive. Only in the eyes of those who are deluded. It is unfortunate that the publishing press, like the reporting press, frequently becomes trapped by reams of information they don't know how to interpret. According to you and your fellow goofballs. So it is here. You have collated and arranged material so it fits on a page, nothing more. See my five points, above. Our elementary schools teach "don't believe something just because it appears in a book." Right. However, an edited book is head and shoulders above the often ridiculous claptrap we read here on RAO. Your tome is a towering reminder of this good advice, a Mausoleum of Mediocrity. Routledge is a branch of the Taylor & Francis publishing group, and I would rate their writer-rating judgment as being pretty competent. On the other hand, you are an RAO gasbag who lives in an audio fantasyland, and you have not a clue about what you are talking about when it comes to what I have accomplished and when it comes to audio. Howard Ferstler |
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Clyde Slick wrote:
"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick wrote: Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound better Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book. I am sure you have 2 cd players. I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however. Howard Ferstler |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Hello, Peasants, The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound is finally in print. I figure that all of you hot shots would like to hear the news. I got my two-volume, 1200+ page, "editors" free copy yesterday. I am on the title page as the "technical editor," which is kind of a surprise. Yes, I did review all the technical articles and updated quite a large number. I also wrote a few new ones, and of course I did all of the biographical sketches of audio big wigs, plus some company histories. However, I think the people at Routledge did a heck of a lot more than I did. Perhaps 10% of the total material in this new edition was written or modified by me. I suppose that adds up to maybe 120 text pages. Not bad, but still no huge amount. Still, it is many times as much as most of you people have put into a book. Add in my previous four books (written solely by me, of course), and you have quite a contrast between the typical RAO goofball and Ferstler. Incidentally, my name is on many of the articles, but there are also many shorter articles there that have no byline name at all that I also wrote. It must really kill some of you clowns to think that Routledge, a major member of the British/American Taylor-Francis publishing group, has a book out there that has Ferstler as a major contributor. Although many audio notables are in the books, it is still primarily a music-oriented publication, with scads of bios of performers and much dealing with the history of recorded music. Surely, many of you RAO zeros would like to have a book like this to raise your music-knowledg number a bit above that zero. You might learn something worthwhile about audio, too. The two-volume set lists for $225.00, which means that it will definitely be an academic or technical library item, and will not be something the average tweako-geeko would purchase to round out his literary collection. Does cost less than a set of super-duper wires, however. Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler **Bit of rip-off, doncha think? In the same way a cheap amp is exactly the same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files burned on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill as many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may all get excited. I might even buy a copy. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Robert Morein wrote: Howard, in all seriousness, you, as a librarian, probably possess considerable ability to collate and organize facts. However, you lack KNOWLEDGE and JUDGMENT. It has been observed multitudinous times that you are deficient in what you know, and deficient in how you perceive. It is unfortunate that the publishing press, like the reporting press, frequently becomes trapped by reams of information they don't know how to interpret. Hey, buddy boy, need I mention again that I am in print, Sure, mention it all you want. and you do not get that way by being on your level. Howard, you're living proof that I am above that level. Thanks ever so much. What's more, the editor originally contacted me for the work, and not the other way around. He did so, because he had heard of me and knew of my previous work. Work? By the standards of Herr Goebels, ja. I would say that he was more than adequately impressed with my knowledge and judgment. I would say that you are more than adequately impressed with yourself. Note that this is my fifth book. How many have you published, pal? My point exactly. Apparently, it requires no qualifications except an infatuation with one's self. It is you clowns, with your moronic views concerning audio, who have problems with knowledge and judgment. Really, Herr Goebels? You really carry on the tradition of the Big Lie. It has been observed multitudinous times that you are deficient in what you know, and deficient in how you perceive. Only in the eyes of those who are deluded. Yes, let us all bow down and acknowledge the librarian who has self-promoted himself, ala Herr Goebels, to be a "big macher". I'll tell you what you make a lot of, Howard -- ****. It is unfortunate that the publishing press, like the reporting press, frequently becomes trapped by reams of information they don't know how to interpret. According to you and your fellow goofballs. Howard, we're free. Nobody pays us to be corrupt like you. So it is here. You have collated and arranged material so it fits on a page, nothing more. See my five points, above. Our elementary schools teach "don't believe something just because it appears in a book." Right. However, an edited book is head and shoulders above the often ridiculous claptrap we read here on RAO. Not if it's Mein Kampf by Howard Hertler. We will not permit you to postulate without explicitly saying that this is your belief, and not accepted by us on r.a.o. Your tome is a towering reminder of this good advice, a Mausoleum of Mediocrity. Routledge is a branch of the Taylor & Francis publishing group, and I would rate their writer-rating judgment as being pretty competent. Of course you would, but it's a self-referential statement. You're just patting yourself on the back, and blowing hot air up your own butt-hole. On the other hand, you are an RAO gasbag who lives in an audio fantasyland, and you have not a clue about what you are talking about when it comes to what I have accomplished and when it comes to audio. Howard Ferstler, Plagiarist. You mean to say, I'm sure, "the accomplishments of others that I have taken for my own." BTW, you edited my post without indicating [snip]. I've just returned the favor. |
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![]() "George M. Middius" wrote in message ... Brother Horace, are you sleeping? Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book. I am sure you have 2 cd players. I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however. That's a lot of hiding places for the marbles you lost, note. He has room to store five more volumes. |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick wrote: "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick wrote: Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound better Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book. I am sure you have 2 cd players. I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however. All you need is five more volumes. |
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
**Bit of rip-off, doncha think? In the same way a cheap amp is exactly the same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files burned on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill as many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may all get excited. I might even buy a copy. The wood for virtually all books these days comes from pine-tree farms right down here in my area. As for wood itself, if you are so environmentally solid I suggest you forget about your wooden home and go live in a cave. PS: there is nothing quite like a book if the individual looking for a good read is civilized. Ding a disc and it is through. Ding a book, and you can still read the thing. What's more, in 100 years you will still be able to read it. Try that with your disc, even one that is not dinged. Howard Ferstler |
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Robert Morein wrote:
You mean to say, I'm sure, "the accomplishments of others that I have taken for my own." BTW, you edited my post without indicating [snip]. I've just returned the favor. Your gasbag proclamations notwithstanding, I still win and you still lose. Perhaps your local academic or technical library will order a copy of the book for you to read and learn from. Edit away, gasbag. Howard Ferstler |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Robert Morein wrote: You mean to say, I'm sure, "the accomplishments of others that I have taken for my own." BTW, you edited my post without indicating [snip]. I've just returned the favor. Your gasbag proclamations notwithstanding, I still win and you still lose. Perhaps your local academic or technical library will order a copy of the book for you to read and learn from. Edit away, gasbag. Howard Ferstler How dare you demean me with cheap insults, you ****faced mother****er. |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Trevor Wilson wrote: **Bit of rip-off, doncha think? It sure is a ripoff. A waste of trees, a ripoff price. Hey, wait a minute... RIPOFF ALERT! In the same way a cheap amp is exactly the same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files burned on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill as many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may all get excited. I might even buy a copy. The wood for virtually all books these days comes from pine-tree farms right down here in my area. As for wood itself, if you are so environmentally solid I suggest you forget about your wooden home and go live in a cave. Howard, replace "solid" with "concerned". PS: there is nothing quite like a book if the individual looking for a good read is civilized. Ding a disc and it is through. Ding a book, and you can still read the thing. What's more, in 100 years you will still be able to read it. Try that with your disc, even one that is not dinged. Howard Ferstler Not necessarily. Hopefully, your book will be discarded as worthless. Howard, your book is like The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire without the rise. |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Trevor Wilson wrote: **Bit of rip-off, doncha think? In the same way a cheap amp is exactly the same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files burned on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill as many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may all get excited. I might even buy a copy. The wood for virtually all books these days comes from pine-tree farms right down here in my area. **So, the trees are not killed? As for wood itself, if you are so environmentally solid I suggest you forget about your wooden home and go live in a cave. **My home is built from clay bricks. PS: there is nothing quite like a book if the individual looking for a good read is civilized. Ding a disc and it is through. Ding a book, and you can still read the thing. What's more, in 100 years you will still be able to read it. **Are you seriously suggesting that your book will be relevant to anything in 100 years? In fact, as we both know very well, it will be outdated by the time the presses start rolling. It will be almost useless as any kind of reference within 5 years. Tops. A disk makes far more sense, for such an ephemeral product. Try that with your disc, even one that is not dinged. **Please address my points about the rip-off pricing of your book, relative to a disk, which would cost far less to produce, consume far less of the planet's resources and would reach a far wider audience. Or do you think that rip-off pricing when applied to books is OK, but not when applied to (say) speaker cables. Here's a thought: I am still using some expensive speaker cable I purchased nearly 20 years ago. I'll betcha the purchasers of your book won't be able to say that. Do your readers and the planet a favour: Publish on disk. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
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Howard Ferstler wrote:
Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book. Eat your heart out, goofball. This answer is _the_ proof that your mental age is there around 8-9, note, you will. I got a boo-ououk, na na na na! Haa! haaaaa. |
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:22:43 +0300, Fella wrote:
This answer is _the_ proof that your mental age is there around 8-9, note, you will. Is this Yoda-ish? I got a boo-ououk, na na na na! Haa! haaaaa. Is this Elvish? |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)? |
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Howard Ferstler said:
Hello, Peasants, ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Sander de Waal " SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. " |
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Howard Ferstler said:
It is you clowns, with your moronic views concerning audio, who have problems with knowledge and judgment. Howard, Did you *ever* convert one of the "loonies" to your views? -- Sander de Waal " SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. " |
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Robert Morein wrote:
Not necessarily. Hopefully, your book will be discarded as worthless. Howard, your book is like The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire without the rise. Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla. Incidentally, I have already been paid for my work, so trying to limit the book sales will have no impact on me at all. Well, you would not get anywhere, anyway, because the target purchasers are academic and music libraries. Howard Ferstler |
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Trevor Wilson wrote: **Bit of rip-off, doncha think? In the same way a cheap amp is exactly the same as an expensive amp (in your mind), then so is a few .PDF files burned on a CD-R to me. Searches are faster, access easier and you don't kill as many forests. Burn your book to CD-R and sell it for $9.95 and we may all get excited. I might even buy a copy. The wood for virtually all books these days comes from pine-tree farms right down here in my area. **So, the trees are not killed? Give me a break. The paper pulp comes from tree farms. Are you worried that perhaps the trees feel pain? Newspapers use thousands of times more pulp wood than book publishers. As for wood itself, if you are so environmentally solid I suggest you forget about your wooden home and go live in a cave. **My home is built from clay bricks. Including the interior and furnishings? Must be quite a place. PS: there is nothing quite like a book if the individual looking for a good read is civilized. Ding a disc and it is through. Ding a book, and you can still read the thing. What's more, in 100 years you will still be able to read it. **Are you seriously suggesting that your book will be relevant to anything in 100 years? In fact, as we both know very well, it will be outdated by the time the presses start rolling. It will be almost useless as any kind of reference within 5 years. Tops. A disk makes far more sense, for such an ephemeral product. Actually, while my technical contributions to the publication will become dated pretty fast, the biographical sketches I did of quite a large number of audio notables (engineers, designers, journalists, etc.) should hold up for quite some time. In addition, the vast bulk of The Encyclopedia of Recorded Sound is devoted to musical topics, including biographical sketches of various musicians (pop, jazz, country, and classical), musical genera, composition techniques, recorded music history, etc. It is much more than a book by Howard Ferstler. By the way, I was pretty generous with the life-span I noted for a disc-storage medium. Instead of 100 years, I should have said 10 years. As any librarian about long-term storage issues with digital formats. Try that with your disc, even one that is not dinged. **Please address my points about the rip-off pricing of your book, relative to a disk, which would cost far less to produce, consume far less of the planet's resources and would reach a far wider audience. Actually, I worked in a library for over three decades, and the disc-format versions of various encyclopedias were almost as expensive as the paper versions. They were considerably less durable, too. Or do you think that rip-off pricing when applied to books is OK, but not when applied to (say) speaker cables. Exotic and expensive speaker cables are indeed a ripoff, and it is unfortunate that people like you seem to think that they are a big deal. I am not sure if you are deluded or corrupt. Probably a bit of both. By the way, here are two interesting commentaries on super cables (from John Dunlavy and Ken Kantor): http://home.new.rr.com/zaph/audio/johndunlavyonwire.htm http://home.new.rr.com/zaph/audio/kenkantoronwire.htm Here's a thought: I am still using some expensive speaker cable I purchased nearly 20 years ago. I'll betcha the purchasers of your book won't be able to say that. I have lamp cords in operation that are older than 20 years. Howard Ferstler |
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Powell wrote:
"Howard Ferstler" wrote Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)? Work for hire. I have already been paid for my material and editing. Howard Ferstler |
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Robert Morein wrote:
"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Robert Morein wrote: You mean to say, I'm sure, "the accomplishments of others that I have taken for my own." BTW, you edited my post without indicating [snip]. I've just returned the favor. Your gasbag proclamations notwithstanding, I still win and you still lose. Perhaps your local academic or technical library will order a copy of the book for you to read and learn from. Edit away, gasbag. Howard Ferstler How dare you demean me with cheap insults, you ****faced mother****er. Grow up, gasbag. Howard Ferstler |
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Sander deWaal wrote:
Did you *ever* convert one of the "loonies" to your views? Never. There is no cure. However, showing up the loonies for what they are may perhaps help to keep otherwise rational types from becoming infected. Howard Ferstler |
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S888Wheel wrote:
You have accomplished nothing of note. Note. Only by the delusion related standards of a gasbag like you. Howard Ferstler |
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![]() "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla. You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are more the chimp than the gorilla. Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy while Zakhan is away. |
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:22:35 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote: Powell wrote: "Howard Ferstler" wrote Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)? Work for hire. I have already been paid for my material and editing. Howard Ferstler Yes, but where can you spend $5.50 and get anything worthwhile? |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ...
"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla. You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are more the chimp than the gorilla. Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy while Zakhan is away. I'm always watching and I'm always ready willing to take chunk out of your ass!! |
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Zakhann said:
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Actually, it is not MY book at all. I am merely one of quite a few contributors. That is way encyclopedias work, pal. You remind me of a bug trying to annoy a gorilla. You exaggerate your accomplishments. I think you are more the chimp than the gorilla. Congrats on being our substitute chimp-boy while Zakhan is away. I'm always watching and I'm always ready willing to take chunk out of your ass!! No, you're someone's sockpuppet, which is why you immediately responded after being mentioned for the first time in months. How pathetically transparent. Boon |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:14:08 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote: Clyde Slick wrote: "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick wrote: Put the 1200 page book on top of your cd player. It might make it sound better Note that it is a two-volume set, not just one book. I am sure you have 2 cd players. I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however. I'm sorry that your DVD players won't play CDs. My sympathies. |
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:22:35 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote: Powell wrote: "Howard Ferstler" wrote Howard (my fifth book is now in print) Ferstler Do you receive a royalty fee ("my fifth book") from book sales or was this a work for hire (pay check)? Work for hire. I have already been paid for my material and editing. Howard Ferstler Hence 7 DVD players instead of 6. |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:05:56 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote: I have no CD players. I DO have seven DVD players, however. Just as a matter of curiousity, what does one do with seven DVD players? Watch seven movies at once? |
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