[[email protected]]

My kick drum heads are old and dead. However, I plan on using triggers/
samples during mixdown anyway. So does it make a difference if my
recorded tone is worth a damn or not?

[Raw-Tracks]

wrote:
My kick drum heads are old and dead. However, I plan on using triggers/
samples during mixdown anyway. So does it make a difference if my
recorded tone is worth a damn or not?


Nope, doesn't matter.

--
Eric

Practice Your Mixing Skills
Download Our Multi-Track Masters
www.Raw-Tracks.com
www.Mad-Host.com

[Scott Dorsey]

In article ,
Raw-Tracks wrote:
wrote:
My kick drum heads are old and dead. However, I plan on using triggers/
samples during mixdown anyway. So does it make a difference if my
recorded tone is worth a damn or not?

Nope, doesn't matter.

At least not until the head actually tears when you are playing it, which
can happen...
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[news to me]

personally I always try and get the best sound I can up front, but thats me


wrote in message
ups.com...
My kick drum heads are old and dead. However, I plan on using triggers/
samples during mixdown anyway. So does it make a difference if my
recorded tone is worth a damn or not?

[ChristopheRonald]

well... if you have absolutely no plans on using the audio from your
bass drum, you should be fine...

what exactly are you doing? just curious...

[[email protected]]

On May 18, 12:06 am, ChristopheRonald
wrote:
well... if you have absolutely no plans on using the audio from your
bass drum, you should be fine...

what exactly are you doing? just curious...


Recording a death metal album in which the drummer prefers to use
triggers and samples.

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

wrote in message oups.com...
On May 18, 12:06 am, ChristopheRonald
wrote:
well... if you have absolutely no plans on using the audio from your
bass drum, you should be fine...

what exactly are you doing? just curious...

Recording a death metal album in which the drummer prefers to use
triggers and samples.

So you're getting to work with a drummer that can't tune his kit, eh?
Or maybe he's using yours because he doesn't even own one?

;-)

Save yourself some time & effort and lay the first round of samples
down during the initial recording.

DM

[Romeo Rondeau[_2_]]

wrote:
My kick drum heads are old and dead. However, I plan on using triggers/
samples during mixdown anyway. So does it make a difference if my
recorded tone is worth a damn or not?


Old and dead heads feel like ****, so yes you need to replace them.

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

"Romeo Rondeau" wrote in message . ..
wrote:
My kick drum heads are old and dead. However, I plan on using triggers/
samples during mixdown anyway. So does it make a difference if my
recorded tone is worth a damn or not?

Old and dead heads feel like ****, so yes you need to replace them.

Personally... I'd replace them, tune them properly, hope the player was decent,
and show him that he didn't really need to trigger samples. Add a sample to
the track perhaps, but not total replacement. Then again, it's me and my own
fantasy talking, not the client.

DM

[Ken Winokur]

On May 18, 4:43 am, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" /Odm
wrote:
"Romeo Rondeau" wrote in gy.net...
wrote:
My kick drum heads are old and dead. However, I plan on using triggers/
samples during mixdown anyway. So does it make a difference if my
recorded tone is worth a damn or not?
Old and dead heads feel like ****, so yes you need to replace them.

Personally... I'd replace them, tune them properly, hope the player was decent,
and show him that he didn't really need to trigger samples. Add a sample to
the track perhaps, but not total replacement. Then again, it's me and my own
fantasy talking, not the client.

DM

Why not just change them for your own use later? It's not that big an
investiment. At least do the batter head (the one the pedal hits).
Then you can record the real sound and mix the sample and real sound
as you see fit.

The difference between old heads and new is night and day. Be sure to
break the heads in a bit (play on them for a half hour or so) before
trying to actually record them. Heads stretch to fit.

On the other hand, a death metal guy can probably destroy a head in
one session. If it has even the slightest indent where the beater
hits the head, it's going to destroy the sound and need to be changed.

[Romeo Rondeau[_2_]]

David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
"Romeo Rondeau" wrote in message . ..
wrote:
My kick drum heads are old and dead. However, I plan on using triggers/
samples during mixdown anyway. So does it make a difference if my
recorded tone is worth a damn or not?

Old and dead heads feel like ****, so yes you need to replace them.

Personally... I'd replace them, tune them properly, hope the player was decent,
and show him that he didn't really need to trigger samples. Add a sample to
the track perhaps, but not total replacement. Then again, it's me and my own
fantasy talking, not the client.

DM

I'm with you 100%, Dave.

[Mickey530]

Ran across this on YOUTUBE. Simon Phillips from TOTO showing how to
tune and break in a kick drum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wGA1YgQ6zw

[Ken Winokur]

On May 20, 1:01 am, Mickey530 wrote:
Ran across this on YOUTUBE. Simon Phillips from TOTO showing how to
tune and break in a kick drum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wGA1YgQ6zw

I watched the video and Phillips stands on his bass drum head to
stretch it out! Odd idea, but it makes some sense. What he didn't
say is that it will take hours or even most of a day for the head to
destretch. If he tried to record the drum the way he tuned and
stretched it, it would be changing radically throughout the session.
I always try to rehead drums a day or two before an important
session. If this isn't possible, I try to not radically stretch the
head when tuning it (just enough to get it to pop into place).

It's easier in the long run to just play on the drum a while before
recording, and then retune at the end of the break in period.

My two cents.

Ken