Hi everyone,

I have a question about HD. I know very well of the implications of the
harmonic series (or overtone series) in music making and acoustics. My
question is: when one refers to, for example, "second harmonic
distortion" in terms of audio, does "second harmonic" mean the same
thing that it means in music and acoustics, i.e. an octave plus a
perfect fifth above a fundamental?

Thanks for any help.

"Jenn" wrote in message
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Hi everyone,

I have a question about HD. I know very well of the implications of the
harmonic series (or overtone series) in music making and acoustics. My
question is: when one refers to, for example, "second harmonic
distortion" in terms of audio, does "second harmonic" mean the same
thing that it means in music and acoustics, i.e. an octave plus a
perfect fifth above a fundamental?

Thanks for any help.

No, second harmonic in audio means a single octave up, ie., the frequency
doubled. The third harmonic is the frequency tripled, etc.

"Jenn" wrote in message

Hi everyone,

I have a question about HD. I know very well of the
implications of the harmonic series (or overtone series)
in music making and acoustics. My question is: when one
refers to, for example, "second harmonic distortion" in
terms of audio, does "second harmonic" mean the same
thing that it means in music and acoustics, i.e. an
octave plus a perfect fifth above a fundamental?

The second harmonic of a fundamental tone is exactly one octave higher. The
frequency ratio is 2:1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic

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"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

Hi everyone,

I have a question about HD. I know very well of the
implications of the harmonic series (or overtone series)
in music making and acoustics. My question is: when one
refers to, for example, "second harmonic distortion" in
terms of audio, does "second harmonic" mean the same
thing that it means in music and acoustics, i.e. an
octave plus a perfect fifth above a fundamental?

The second harmonic of a fundamental tone is exactly one octave higher. The
frequency ratio is 2:1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic

This is EXACTLY how the terms are used in music; I simply misspoke in my
question. There is evidently NO difference in how the terms are used.
I wrote "second harmonic" when I meant to write "second overtone".

"Jenn" wrote in message

Hi everyone,

I have a question about HD. I know very well of the
implications of the harmonic series (or overtone series)
in music making and acoustics. My question is: when one
refers to, for example, "second harmonic distortion" in
terms of audio, does "second harmonic" mean the same
thing that it means in music and acoustics, i.e. an
octave plus a perfect fifth above a fundamental?

Thanks for any help.

The posts from SHP and I say about the same thing. This points out the fact
that until engineers realize that musicians have their own special meanings
for common engineering words of art, it can be really strange to talk to
them.

One other help would be that this definition of harmonic is peculiar to
music, and not characteristic of acoustics. If an acoustician uses the
musical definition of second harmonic, its probably only because he's
talking to musicians.

Acousticians generally use word meanings drawn from Physics, not music.

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

Hi everyone,

I have a question about HD. I know very well of the
implications of the harmonic series (or overtone series)
in music making and acoustics. My question is: when one
refers to, for example, "second harmonic distortion" in
terms of audio, does "second harmonic" mean the same
thing that it means in music and acoustics, i.e. an
octave plus a perfect fifth above a fundamental?

Thanks for any help.

The posts from SHP and I say about the same thing. This points out the fact
that until engineers realize that musicians have their own special meanings
for common engineering words of art, it can be really strange to talk to
them.

Except that you're wrong. This is EXACTLY how the terms are used in
music; I simply misspoke in my question. There is evidently NO
difference in how the terms are used. I wrote "second harmonic" when I
meant to write "second overtone".


One other help would be that this definition of harmonic is peculiar to
music, and not characteristic of acoustics.

Incorrect; see above.

If an acoustician uses the
musical definition of second harmonic, its probably only because he's
talking to musicians.

Acousticians generally use word meanings drawn from Physics, not music.

They are the same. The pattern is octave, fifth, fourth, third, third,
etc. This applies to instruments, concert halls, any sympathetic
vibration. It's nice to know that we're dealing with the same physical
properties of nature, which is what I was trying to find out.

"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

Hi everyone,

I have a question about HD. I know very well of the
implications of the harmonic series (or overtone series)
in music making and acoustics. My question is: when
one refers to, for example, "second harmonic
distortion" in terms of audio, does "second harmonic"
mean the same thing that it means in music and
acoustics, i.e. an octave plus a perfect fifth above a
fundamental?

Thanks for any help.

The posts from SHP and I say about the same thing. This
points out the fact that until engineers realize that
musicians have their own special meanings for common
engineering words of art, it can be really strange to
talk to them.

Except that you're wrong. This is EXACTLY how the terms
are used in music; I simply misspoke in my question.
There is evidently NO difference in how the terms are
used. I wrote "second harmonic" when I meant to write
"second overtone".

Whatever. :-(

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

Hi everyone,

I have a question about HD. I know very well of the
implications of the harmonic series (or overtone series)
in music making and acoustics. My question is: when
one refers to, for example, "second harmonic
distortion" in terms of audio, does "second harmonic"
mean the same thing that it means in music and
acoustics, i.e. an octave plus a perfect fifth above a
fundamental?

Thanks for any help.

The posts from SHP and I say about the same thing. This
points out the fact that until engineers realize that
musicians have their own special meanings for common
engineering words of art, it can be really strange to
talk to them.

Except that you're wrong. This is EXACTLY how the terms
are used in music; I simply misspoke in my question.
There is evidently NO difference in how the terms are
used. I wrote "second harmonic" when I meant to write
"second overtone".

Whatever. :-(

I'm sorry, what do you mean? The terms are used EXACTLY the same.

"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

Hi everyone,

I have a question about HD. I know very well of the
implications of the harmonic series (or overtone
series) in music making and acoustics. My question
is: when one refers to, for example, "second harmonic
distortion" in terms of audio, does "second harmonic"
mean the same thing that it means in music and
acoustics, i.e. an octave plus a perfect fifth above a
fundamental?

Thanks for any help.

The posts from SHP and I say about the same thing. This
points out the fact that until engineers realize that
musicians have their own special meanings for common
engineering words of art, it can be really strange to
talk to them.

Except that you're wrong. This is EXACTLY how the terms
are used in music; I simply misspoke in my question.
There is evidently NO difference in how the terms are
used. I wrote "second harmonic" when I meant to write
"second overtone".

Whatever. :-(

I'm sorry, what do you mean? The terms are used EXACTLY
the same.

Which terms?

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
Hi everyone,

I have a question about HD. I know very well of the implications of the
harmonic series (or overtone series) in music making and acoustics. My
question is: when one refers to, for example, "second harmonic
distortion" in terms of audio, does "second harmonic" mean the same
thing that it means in music and acoustics, i.e. an octave plus a
perfect fifth above a fundamental?

Thanks for any help

If you have an audio question about perfect fifths, ask Pinkerton.



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