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Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the
place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Also, I find it good to know that we no longer have to rely on Newtonian Physics, they were getting in the way of a lot of brilliant people like JUte/Munchausen/McCoy, so I say the hell with them. Sorry, I must go now, I just got a call from Edgar Cayce and I must take hear what he has to say. |
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![]() wrote in message ink.net... Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Also, I find it good to know that we no longer have to rely on Newtonian Physics, they were getting in the way of a lot of brilliant people like JUte/Munchausen/McCoy, so I say the hell with them. Sorry, I must go now, I just got a call from Edgar Cayce and I must take hear what he has to say. I have read Edgar Cayce's diagnosis of your condition. He calls it liatosis, a foul exhudation of the mouth caused by telling too many lies. The prescription is a quart of castor oil, taken by mouth, with every meal. |
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![]() "Robert Morein" wrote in message ... : : wrote in message : ink.net... : Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the : place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering : how many have tried them? : : Also, I find it good to know that we no longer have to rely on Newtonian : Physics, they were getting in the way of a lot of brilliant people like : JUte/Munchausen/McCoy, so I say the hell with them. : : Sorry, I must go now, I just got a call from Edgar Cayce and I must take : hear what he has to say. : I have read Edgar Cayce's diagnosis of your condition. He calls it liatosis, : a foul exhudation of the mouth caused by telling too many lies. The : prescription is a quart of castor oil, taken by mouth, with every meal. : he, are you being harsh ? i distinctly remember that as "..every _other_ meal" R. |
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![]() Fella wrote: wrote: Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wonderinghow many have tried them? I wonder how SHP might want to tweak you? Hmmm... Please SHP old chap, if anything needs tweaking in a quantum mechanics sort of a way, it's this "thing" called nob, mcmoron, mickeymickmickey, duh!mikey, etc.. Like that Schrödinger's Cat, perhaps if we put him in a tightly sealed box, with lots of decaying nitrogen 13 atoms and a hammer that hits him in the head each time an atom decays, and wait for, not ten minutes, but some ten decades, and open the box to see if he is still alive afterwards... Whatyasay, shp ol chum? Wouldn't that tweak our mickeyMcMoron good? Or what if we knock him against a led wall a quadrillion times a quadrillion times so as to find out when his atoms and the led wall's atoms actually line up so that he passes (well his head anyway) through the wall at least once. Though if and when that happens we can go on to see when it'll happen again, yes? Awaiting your suggestions. Mike McKelvy? I'd stick him in a home made orgone energy generator and see if nuclear contamination might smarten him up. |
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ink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? |
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![]() "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... wrote in message ink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? I don't know I thought there was nothing lower than Middius, and then up pops Singh. Just when you think he's the bottom of the barrel, up pops "Fella." EddieM seems to have been excommunicated, so perhaps we've found out what the standards are. Sad. |
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Date: Thurs, Mar 16 2006 5:39 pm Email: It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? I don't know I thought there was nothing lower than Middius, and then up pops Singh. Just when you think he's the bottom of the barrel, up pops "Fella." Here's another example of nob's 'contributions' to r.a.o. Note that Mr. Middius has not posted to this thread as of the time of nob's 'gratuitous' attack. Poor nob! r.a.o. is a wasteland of personal attacks! And it's not *his* fault... Sad. I agree. Now put your pecker back in your pants, OK? What would your kids think if they accidentally walked in and saw you like this? |
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![]() "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in message oups.com... From: Date: Thurs, Mar 16 2006 5:39 pm Email: It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? I don't know I thought there was nothing lower than Middius, and then up pops Singh. Just when you think he's the bottom of the barrel, up pops "Fella." Here's another example of nob's 'contributions' to r.a.o. Note that Mr. Middius has not posted to this thread as of the time of nob's 'gratuitous' attack. Poor nob! r.a.o. is a wasteland of personal attacks! And it's not *his* fault... Sad. I agree. Now put your pecker back in your pants, OK? What would your kids think if they accidentally walked in and saw you like this? |
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![]() "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in message oups.com... From: Date: Thurs, Mar 16 2006 5:39 pm Email: It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? I don't know I thought there was nothing lower than Middius, and then up pops Singh. Just when you think he's the bottom of the barrel, up pops "Fella." Here's another example of nob's 'contributions' to r.a.o. Note that Mr. Middius has not posted to this thread as of the time of nob's 'gratuitous' attack. Poor nob! r.a.o. is a wasteland of personal attacks! And it's not *his* fault... Nor yours either, I suppose. That wasn't an attack, it was a comment based on observation. Sad. I agree. Now put your pecker back in your pants, OK? What would your kids think if they accidentally walked in and saw you like this? It always comes down to some sort of sexual thing for you, doesn't it? |
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Date: Fri, Mar 17 2006 2:20 am Email: Note that Mr. Middius has not posted to this thread as of the time of nob's 'gratuitous' attack. Poor nob! r.a.o. is a wasteland of personal attacks! And it's not *his* fault... Nor yours either, I suppose. A subtle difference: you don't see me whining about it. If you whine about something, while being one of the most egregious offenders, you are a hypocrite. It always comes down to some sort of sexual thing for you, doesn't it? I have no idea what this relates to. Where have I 'always' referred to sex? Enlighten me. |
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Date: Thurs, Mar 16 2006 4:50 pm Email: "Arny Krueger" It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? This is an utterly useless statement, no better than cheap political propaganda. You want to talk about 'excluded middle' arguments? This assumes that all 'subjectivists' agree that the tweaks proposed by Soundhaspriority are valid and useful. Clearly not all do. I am, I suppose, a 'subjectivist' but I hardly buy the thought that the tweaks proposed are valid or even worthy of trying. This last one looks potentially dangerous to me, at least as far as equipment life is concerned. Perhaps I've misunderstood some of the posts I've seen from 'objectivists.' Perhaps the 'objectivists' never actually disagree on anything and they all proceed in lock-step with one another. I hadn't thought that to be the case. I think that trying to pigeonhole either group in such a manner is counterproductive at best and extremely intellectually dishonest at worst. The political equivalent is saying that all Democrats are Ted Kennedy disciples and that all republicans are Pat Robertson disciples (while that is probably more true for republicans, not ALL republicans are crazed religious whacko neo-nazis. Just most...). Those silly 'objectivists.' They all lie and then try to get everybody to agree with their distorted sense of reality. |
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![]() Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote: This assumes that all 'subjectivists' agree that the tweaks proposed by Soundhaspriority are valid and useful. Clearly not all do. Did I miss something? By "not all", who here are you implying does? I am, I suppose, a 'subjectivist' but I hardly buy the thought that the tweaks proposed are valid or even worthy of trying. Yet you have no evidence that they aren't valid or worthy of trying. Which proves that you're really no different than Arny, who also mistakenly believes that the only valid things in audio are those that conform to his flawed thinking. The rest can be casually dismissed without trial. With qualifications like that, don't pretend you are a "subjectivist". At best, you're what Arny calls himself: "a reliable subjectivist". This last one looks potentially dangerous to me, at least as far as equipment life is concerned. Same ignorant thing that Arny said. Are you sure you're not him? As for the speaker grounding tweak, not only have I tested it, I've already given examples of commecial models that incorporate the grounding. Plus, I've made several offers for people to come and observe my speaker setup, where I show the speakers being grounded as described, and the amp working perfectly. That's more evidence I'm supplying than you've ever shown for any of your false assertions about everything. Perhaps I've misunderstood some of the posts I've seen from 'objectivists.' Perhaps the 'objectivists' never actually disagree on anything and they all proceed in lock-step with one another. I hadn't thought that to be the case. I've certainly proved it to be the case with subjectivists. Unless you can come up with one example, that I've asked you for above. I think that trying to pigeonhole either group in such a manner is counterproductive at best and extremely intellectually dishonest at worst. The exception is what I've said here. What Arny said is worthless, but that describes just about everything he says. But if it's actually true, it can't be _reasonably_ disproven (among those who listen to reason). Those silly 'objectivists.' They all lie and then try to get everybody to agree with their distorted sense of reality. I've already proven that both of you ideologues do that. You ALL reside under a distorted sense of reality. At least in relation to audio; if not many other things. |
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This assumes that all 'subjectivists' agree that the tweaks proposed by
Soundhaspriority are valid and useful. Clearly not all do. Did I miss something? By "not all", who here are you implying does? I'm not implying that anybody does. I am, I suppose, a 'subjectivist' but I hardly buy the thought that the tweaks proposed are valid or even worthy of trying. Yet you have no evidence that they aren't valid or worthy of trying. Which proves that you're really no different than Arny, who also mistakenly believes that the only valid things in audio are those that conform to his flawed thinking. The rest can be casually dismissed without trial. With qualifications like that, don't pretend you are a "subjectivist". At best, you're what Arny calls himself: "a reliable subjectivist". No, the difference between the 'usual suspects' and me is that I do not care if you want to use tweaks. I personally do not think it worth the time, but if you do, go for it. I am not, and have not, tried to convince anybody one way or another. If you are trying to force me to do trials in order to dismiss an idea that I personally do not agree with or find worthy (conforming to your thoughts), then it is you who are most like Arny between the two of us. I will not try to force you to do DBTs any more than I would try to force Arny to try your tweaks. You are, however, making Arny's argument for him: that all 'subjectivists' can be pigeonholed into a group. This last one looks potentially dangerous to me, at least as far as equipment life is concerned. Same ignorant thing that Arny said. Are you sure you're not him? As for the speaker grounding tweak, not only have I tested it, I've already given examples of commecial models that incorporate the grounding. Plus, I've made several offers for people to come and observe my speaker setup, where I show the speakers being grounded as described, and the amp working perfectly. That's more evidence I'm supplying than you've ever shown for any of your false assertions about everything. If it works for your setup, great. I thought you were stating that it would work for all setups. My mistake. Perhaps I've misunderstood some of the posts I've seen from 'objectivists.' Perhaps the 'objectivists' never actually disagree on anything and they all proceed in lock-step with one another. I hadn't thought that to be the case. I've certainly proved it to be the case with subjectivists. Unless you can come up with one example, that I've asked you for above. So you actually *are* an objectivist and this is a simple troll. Things make much more sense now. I think that trying to pigeonhole either group in such a manner is counterproductive at best and extremely intellectually dishonest at worst. The exception is what I've said here. What Arny said is worthless, but that describes just about everything he says. But if it's actually true, it can't be _reasonably_ disproven (among those who listen to reason). Something can be true for you and not true for others. Those silly 'objectivists.' They all lie and then try to get everybody to agree with their distorted sense of reality. I've already proven that both of you ideologues do that. You ALL reside under a distorted sense of reality. At least in relation to audio; if not many other things. And I've lied? Please show me where. If something is not true for me, then it is not true for me. If something is true for you, then it is true for you. Your tweaks work for you. You believe that they make your system sound better. I do not wish to try them. I have no problem with that. Why do you? |
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Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
From: Arny Krueger Date: Thurs, Mar 16 2006 4:50 pm Email: "Arny Krueger" It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? This is an utterly useless statement, no better than cheap political propaganda. You want to talk about 'excluded middle' arguments? Arny is a typical "demagog leader" of the borg. ![]() |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote: wrote in message ink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? Way to put people into groups and judge them, Arny. Not all "subjectivists" take those kind of tweaks seriously. |
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![]() "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote: wrote in message ink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? Way to put people into groups and judge them, Arny. Not all "subjectivists" take those kind of tweaks seriously. That any do is a sad statement. That there are markets at all for things like $400.00 volumen knobs or that some people have cryogenicly frozen their cables or believe that the construction of their component rack has anything to do with the sound of anything other than the turntable, or that soem people beleive that lifting cables off the floor improves the sound, or replacing a stock power cord with a 250.00 one will change anything. There's quite a market for snake oil. |
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wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote: wrote in message ink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? Way to put people into groups and judge them, Arny. Not all "subjectivists" take those kind of tweaks seriously. That any do is a sad statement. I agree. |
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![]() Jenn said: Way to put people into groups and judge them, Arny. Not all "subjectivists" take those kind of tweaks seriously. That any do is a sad statement. I agree. The difference being that Mickey actually believes somebody does take those alleged "tweaks" seriously. Only Krooger is krazy enough to do that, but Mr. ****'s religion is completely hostile to this kind of inanity. |
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Date: Fri, Mar 17 2006 2:24 am Email: That there are markets at all for things like $400.00 volumen knobs or that some people have cryogenicly frozen their cables or believe that the construction of their component rack has anything to do with the sound of anything other than the turntable, or that soem people beleive that lifting cables off the floor improves the sound, or replacing a stock power cord with a 250.00 one will change anything. There's quite a market for snake oil. All of this may or may not be true. Either way, how does any of this effect you again? (IOW, who cares?) Oh. I forgot. You're the self-appointed Savior. |
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![]() "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in message oups.com... From: Date: Fri, Mar 17 2006 2:24 am Email: That there are markets at all for things like $400.00 volumen knobs or that some people have cryogenicly frozen their cables or believe that the construction of their component rack has anything to do with the sound of anything other than the turntable, or that soem people beleive that lifting cables off the floor improves the sound, or replacing a stock power cord with a 250.00 one will change anything. There's quite a market for snake oil. All of this may or may not be true. Either way, how does any of this effect you again? (IOW, who cares?) Oh. I forgot. You're the self-appointed Savior. Well we have that in common then. |
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"Jenn" wrote in message
In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote: wrote in message ink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? Way to put people into groups and judge them, Arny. Not all "subjectivists" take those kind of tweaks seriously. I've noticed your many denounciations of SHP's crazy tweeks Jenn. Not! |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Jenn" wrote in message In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote: wrote in message thlink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? Way to put people into groups and judge them, Arny. Not all "subjectivists" take those kind of tweaks seriously. I've noticed your many denounciations of SHP's crazy tweeks Jenn. Not! Jenn Jenn, you've been neglecting your duties in the eyes of the great kroog Jenn. What have you done for the great kroog today Jenn? |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote: wrote in message ink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? Way to put people into groups and judge them, Arny. Not all "subjectivists" take those kind of tweaks seriously. I've noticed your many denounciations of SHP's crazy tweeks Jenn. Not! Avoidance of my point noted. I don't comment on everything with which I agree or disagree if others are doing so and I have nothing new to add. |
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"Jenn" wrote in message
In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote: wrote in message ink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? Way to put people into groups and judge them, Arny. Not all "subjectivists" take those kind of tweaks seriously. I've noticed your many denounciations of SHP's crazy tweeks Jenn. Not! Avoidance of my point noted. It's just an unsupported claim. What is there of substance to avoid? I don't comment on everything with which I agree or disagree if others are doing so and I have nothing new to add. That's the coward's road - it suits you well. |
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![]() Jenn said: Way to put people into groups and judge them, Arny. Not all "subjectivists" take those kind of tweaks seriously. I've noticed your many denounciations of SHP's crazy tweeks Jenn. Not! I don't comment on everything with which I agree or disagree if others are doing so and I have nothing new to add. Jenn, you can't debug Kroologic with rules of normative human behavior. Sorry. |
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![]() "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Jenn" wrote in message In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote: wrote in message ink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. How low can the so-called subjectivists go? Way to put people into groups and judge them, Arny. Not all "subjectivists" take those kind of tweaks seriously. I've noticed your many denounciations of SHP's crazy tweeks Jenn. Not! maybe she is merely ignoring the troll. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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![]() Arny Krueger exemplifies irony: wrote in message ink.net Now that SHP, (can we call you that) or S for short, has classed up the place by giving everybody who want them free tweaks, I'm just wondering how many have tried them? Nobody with a brain. I say its the exact opposite reason. If you have a brain as you allege, then why can't you show evidence that you do by proving the tweaks don't work? As you would ask "the subs" to do when they make stupid unfounded assertions? Out of the entire newsgroup dismissing them, not one "brain" here has been able to do that. Are YOU smart enough to do that, Arny? Or are you just talking out of your ass like everyone else? In fact, you've never even tried it so who are you to talk, and how are you supposed to know they don't work, even in practice? It is hard to believe, but this place is getting even more useless than it was. Do you think it'll ever get more useless than you are? And does that mean you'll be announcing your retirement from RAO in 10 years? How low can the so-called subjectivists go? I think they might have a ways to go before they get to your level of glibly accusing a multitude of innocent people of trafficking in child pornography. |
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Date: Fri, Mar 17 2006 1:19 am Email: I say its the exact opposite reason. If you have a brain as you allege, then why can't you show evidence that you do by proving the tweaks don't work? You are an 'objectivist' troll. 'nuff said. |
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![]() Shovels is still smarting from last week's rebuff. George "Morc from Orc" Middius made a tiny little bird peep about the fact that he did try the aspirin with cat tweak, but when I tried to query him about how he'd applied it, he shut up about it. Poor Shovels. Did I let you down too roughly? I'll tell you anything you want to know about my little experiment with your recipe. Ask away. |
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![]() paul packer wrote: On 16 Mar 2006 15:44:30 -0800, wrote: ignorant closed-minded mindless sheep RAO regulars are too stupid valid new ideas from silly bogus ones that they pull out of the toilet (of their mind). any concept that ignorant backward trailer-trash slack-jawed witless yokels (which breed like crabgrass on this newsgroup) Therefore, the cretinous bigoted moron of RAO The primitive thinker of RAO the RAO lemming High praise indeed! (Incidentally, what are closed-minded mindless sheep?) I'm sure I have NO idea. That's just what the insult-o-meter (c) came up with. It's kind of outdated (early 50's model). I suppose it does need a software upgrade. |
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On 16 Mar 2006 17:34:20 -0800, wrote:
paul packer wrote: On 16 Mar 2006 15:44:30 -0800, wrote: ignorant closed-minded mindless sheep RAO regulars are too stupid valid new ideas from silly bogus ones that they pull out of the toilet (of their mind). any concept that ignorant backward trailer-trash slack-jawed witless yokels (which breed like crabgrass on this newsgroup) Therefore, the cretinous bigoted moron of RAO The primitive thinker of RAO the RAO lemming High praise indeed! (Incidentally, what are closed-minded mindless sheep?) I'm sure I have NO idea. That's just what the insult-o-meter (c) came up with. It's kind of outdated (early 50's model). I suppose it does need a software upgrade. And perhaps not only it. |
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paul packer wrote:
On 16 Mar 2006 15:44:30 -0800, wrote: ignorant closed-minded mindless sheep RAO regulars are too stupid valid new ideas from silly bogus ones that they pull out of the toilet (of their mind). any concept that ignorant backward trailer-trash slack-jawed witless yokels (which breed like crabgrass on this newsgroup) Therefore, the cretinous bigoted moron of RAO The primitive thinker of RAO the RAO lemming High praise indeed! (Incidentally, what are closed-minded mindless sheep?) very zen, if nothing else. ___ -S "Excuse me? What solid proof do you have that I'm insane?" - soundhaspriority |
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![]() Sillybot, don't you have sinewaves to measure? (Incidentally, what are closed-minded mindless sheep?) very zen, if nothing else. Spake Sillybot: "I know all about zen cause I read it in a book, in college, where I don't go now because I'm all grown up." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Please pass the oil can before my brain rusts." -- Sillybot |
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