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Default How well does Dolby C work on cassettes?


I have seen online reviews of particular cassette decks that claim
that Dolby C makes for bad-sounding recordings, especially on high
frequencies. Example is Harman Kardon DC520 cassette deck.

I have only used Dolby B in the past but need to replace an old broken
deck. Is Dolby C good on most modern decks, but bad only on a few? Or
do people complain about it in general?

Thanks for the feedback.

Clark Coleman
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"Clark L. Coleman" wrote in message
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I have seen online reviews of particular cassette decks that claim
that Dolby C makes for bad-sounding recordings, especially on high
frequencies. Example is Harman Kardon DC520 cassette deck.

I have only used Dolby B in the past but need to replace an old broken
deck. Is Dolby C good on most modern decks, but bad only on a few? Or
do people complain about it in general?

Thanks for the feedback.

Clark Coleman


Dolby C was replaced by Dolby S.
Dolby C was extremely touchy regarding deck calibration. Dolby S is not, and
provides improved performance as well.
But can't you transition to a newer medium? The Philips cassette is over,
done, obsolete, and for good reason.


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Robert Morein wrote:

"Clark L. Coleman" wrote in message
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I have seen online reviews of particular cassette decks that claim
that Dolby C makes for bad-sounding recordings, especially on high
frequencies. Example is Harman Kardon DC520 cassette deck.

I have only used Dolby B in the past but need to replace an old broken
deck. Is Dolby C good on most modern decks, but bad only on a few? Or
do people complain about it in general?

Thanks for the feedback.

Clark Coleman


Dolby C was replaced by Dolby S.
Dolby C was extremely touchy regarding deck calibration. Dolby S is not, and
provides improved performance as well.


If this is true, why is it almost impossible to find a new deck with
Dolby S, while Dolby C is common? I was aware of some Sony decks with
Dolby S a short time ago, but they are all discontinued now.

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In article ,
Robert Morein wrote:

"Clark L. Coleman" wrote in message
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I have seen online reviews of particular cassette decks that claim
that Dolby C makes for bad-sounding recordings, especially on high
frequencies. Example is Harman Kardon DC520 cassette deck.

I have only used Dolby B in the past but need to replace an old broken
deck. Is Dolby C good on most modern decks, but bad only on a few? Or
do people complain about it in general?

Thanks for the feedback.

Clark Coleman


Dolby C was replaced by Dolby S.
Dolby C was extremely touchy regarding deck calibration. Dolby S is not,
and
provides improved performance as well.


If this is true, why is it almost impossible to find a new deck with
Dolby S, while Dolby C is common? I was aware of some Sony decks with
Dolby S a short time ago, but they are all discontinued now.

Strange things happen when a technology is in the process of dying.
It's just a quirk.


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"Clark L. Coleman" wrote in message
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I have seen online reviews of particular cassette decks that claim
that Dolby C makes for bad-sounding recordings, especially on high
frequencies. Example is Harman Kardon DC520 cassette deck.

I have only used Dolby B in the past but need to replace an old broken
deck. Is Dolby C good on most modern decks, but bad only on a few? Or
do people complain about it in general?

Thanks for the feedback.

Clark Coleman


When Dolby C came out it got good reviews, the only problem I am aware of is
finding other decks, such as in cars, that have it. If you play a Doby C
encoded tape using Dolby B it will sound harsh and the highs will be
accentuated.

The easiest thing to do is record something in both B and C and compare
them. The one you lie is the one you should use.




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When Dolby C came out it got good reviews, the only problem I am aware of
is finding other decks, such as in cars, that have it. If you play a Doby
C encoded tape using Dolby B it will sound harsh and the highs will be
accentuated.


If one wants to accentuate, one should
"at least" accentuate the positive.


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Clark L. Coleman wrote:

I have seen online reviews of particular cassette decks that claim
that Dolby C makes for bad-sounding recordings, especially on high
frequencies. Example is Harman Kardon DC520 cassette deck.

I have only used Dolby B in the past but need to replace an old broken
deck. Is Dolby C good on most modern decks, but bad only on a few? Or
do people complain about it in general?


What's more important than what type of NR you have, is the number of
heads. If you're using cassette, get a 3-head. I've never heard a
2-head that didn't sound bad, compared to a good 3-head.

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Clark L. Coleman wrote:

I have seen online reviews of particular cassette decks that claim
that Dolby C makes for bad-sounding recordings, especially on high
frequencies. Example is Harman Kardon DC520 cassette deck.

I have only used Dolby B in the past but need to replace an old broken
deck. Is Dolby C good on most modern decks, but bad only on a few? Or
do people complain about it in general?


What's more important than what type of NR you have, is the number of
heads. If you're using cassette, get a 3-head. I've never heard a
2-head that didn't sound bad, compared to a good 3-head.

Agreed. There might be some Nakamchi exceptions, but then their 2 head
decks were inferior to their 3 head one as well.



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I have seen online reviews of particular cassette decks that claim
that Dolby C makes for bad-sounding recordings, especially on high
frequencies. Example is Harman Kardon DC520 cassette deck.

I have only used Dolby B in the past but need to replace an old broken
deck. Is Dolby C good on most modern decks, but bad only on a few? Or
do people complain about it in general?


Dolby C works well. I used it all the time back when I was making
cassettes.

Norm Strong


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Dolby C works well.


But not as well as minidisc. :-)


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Dolby C works well.


But not as well as minidisc. :-)


Yes.
In some kinds of use, I've found high quality cassette can fool the ear.
Seems to do well with orchestra. But I did a test using an ordinary,
speaking human voice, which happened to be mine. The odd-order harmonic
distortion was quite obvious. High bias tapes produced more noticeable
distortion than low bias.

But mindisc is better.
But why not just burn CDs? It's cheap, and very very good.


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"paul packer" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:10:31 -0800, wrote:


Dolby C works well.


But not as well as minidisc. :-)


Yes.
In some kinds of use, I've found high quality cassette can fool the ear.
Seems to do well with orchestra. But I did a test using an ordinary,
speaking human voice, which happened to be mine. The odd-order harmonic
distortion was quite obvious. High bias tapes produced more noticeable
distortion than low bias.

But mindisc is better.
But why not just burn CDs? It's cheap, and very very good.


Minidisc is better. More compact, less vulnerable, vastly better
editing options. Just better.
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:00:04 -0500, "Robert Morein"
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"paul packer" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:10:31 -0800,
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Dolby C works well.

But not as well as minidisc. :-)


Yes.
In some kinds of use, I've found high quality cassette
can fool the ear. Seems to do well with orchestra. But I
did a test using an ordinary, speaking human voice,
which happened to be mine. The odd-order harmonic
distortion was quite obvious. High bias tapes produced
more noticeable distortion than low bias.

But mindisc is better.


But why not just burn CDs? It's cheap, and very very
good.


We've got to highlight this post. For once Morein said something that makes
sense!

Minidisc is better.


It takes a lot of eye-closing to reach that conclusion.

More compact,


My living room is big enough to not be taxed by storing CDs. Ditto for my
car and even backpack.

Let's face it, if you want to do live recording today, you'll use a
flash-based recorder. If you're working at home, there's no problem if you
completely avoid MD.

My MD recorder is one of the worst audio investments I ever made.

less vulnerable,


????

vastly better editing options.


No way!

Just better.


MDs are perceptually coded, for *approximately* good sound.


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Clark L. Coleman wrote:

I have seen online reviews of particular cassette decks that claim
that Dolby C makes for bad-sounding recordings, especially on high
frequencies. Example is Harman Kardon DC520 cassette deck.


Myth.

I have only used Dolby B in the past but need to replace an old broken
deck. Is Dolby C good on most modern decks, but bad only on a few? Or
do people complain about it in general?


Dolby C can come very close to CD. Use metal or a high-quality
high-bias tape, set the levels as high as possible without causing
objectionable distortion, and make sure you are always using a clean
deck.

http://www.mastersonaudio.com/tips/20030201.htm
http://www.mastersonaudio.com/audio/20041001.htm

--124

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"124" wrote in message
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: Clark L. Coleman wrote:
:
: I have seen online reviews of particular cassette decks that claim
: that Dolby C makes for bad-sounding recordings, especially on high
: frequencies. Example is Harman Kardon DC520 cassette deck.
:
: Myth.
:
: I have only used Dolby B in the past but need to replace an old broken
: deck. Is Dolby C good on most modern decks, but bad only on a few? Or
: do people complain about it in general?
:
: Dolby C can come very close to CD. Use metal or a high-quality
: high-bias tape, set the levels as high as possible without causing
: objectionable distortion, and make sure you are always using a clean
: deck.
:
: http://www.mastersonaudio.com/tips/20030201.htm
: http://www.mastersonaudio.com/audio/20041001.htm
:
: --124
:
I don't see Masters recommending recording at levels as high as possible
which is just as well, as that would make the recommendations nonsense
- so that must be your recommendation, 124 - baaad advice, slick :-)

R.




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