Gear drive turntables provide the lowest possible maintenance. New
developments in synthetic hypoid oil, combined with a concentric rubber
shaft coupling, will finally permit the creation of equipment with a hundred
year lifetime.

Hypoid turntables -- when the vinyl hits the road!

Several of these were built, particularly the washing-machine-size
Fairchild transcription tables. They were very heavy and gave marginal
performance even when new.

Since belt drive tables are perfectly satisfactory for audiophiles and
direct drive ones perfectly satisfactory for DJs, why reinvent the
wheel?

"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
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Several of these were built, particularly the washing-machine-size
Fairchild transcription tables. They were very heavy and gave marginal
performance even when new.

Since belt drive tables are perfectly satisfactory for audiophiles and
direct drive ones perfectly satisfactory for DJs, why reinvent the
wheel?

The key is platter mass. A gear drive turntable is capable of driving a much
heavier platter. Since amplifiers of over a hundred pounds weight are in
common use, why not a comparable platter mass?

I do know someone who, while a grad student at the University of London,
constructed a turntable for which the platter was a manhole cover. It was
reputed to have excellent performance.

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...


I do know someone who, while a grad student at the University of London,
constructed a turntable for which the platter was a manhole cover. It was
reputed to have excellent performance.


Ah, so that explains the 8 missing persons in Ladbroke Grove..

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...


I do know someone who, while a grad student at the University of London,
constructed a turntable for which the platter was a manhole cover. It was
reputed to have excellent performance.


Ah, so that explains the 8 missing persons in Ladbroke Grove..
No obstacle shall stand in the way of ruthless pursuit of perception.
Rather, it shall fall down a hole.

"Mikey, come take a look at this interesting turntable. Whoops!"

"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
oups.com...
Several of these were built, particularly the washing-machine-size
Fairchild transcription tables. They were very heavy and gave marginal
performance even when new.

Since belt drive tables are perfectly satisfactory for audiophiles and
direct drive ones perfectly satisfactory for DJs, why reinvent the
wheel?

Why not give audiophiles the same advantages as DJ's? Don't they deserve to
have a table that has the best possible speed accuracy?

In article t, wrote:

"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
roups.com...
Several of these were built, particularly the washing-machine-size
Fairchild transcription tables. They were very heavy and gave marginal
performance even when new.

Since belt drive tables are perfectly satisfactory for audiophiles and
direct drive ones perfectly satisfactory for DJs, why reinvent the
wheel?

Why not give audiophiles the same advantages as DJ's? Don't they deserve to
have a table that has the best possible speed accuracy?



Would be interesting to listen to the turntable sound if the DJ manipulated
the platter.

greg

wrote

Since belt drive tables are perfectly satisfactory for audiophiles and
direct drive ones perfectly satisfactory for DJs, why reinvent the wheel?

Why not give audiophiles the same advantages as DJ's? Don't they deserve
to have a table that has the best possible speed accuracy?
What is the basis of your notion that mainstream
turntables produce *audible distortions* due to
speed inaccuracy?

Speed Accuracy (±%) Examples:
Basis 0.1-0.05
Clearaudio 0.1-001
L.A. Michell 0.5-0.25
KAB 0.03-0.005
Nottingham 0.05
SOTA 0.1- 0.04

What is the threshold of acceptable distortion,
in your opinion?

On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:16:11 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

Gear drive turntables provide the lowest possible maintenance. New
developments in synthetic hypoid oil, combined with a concentric rubber
shaft coupling, will finally permit the creation of equipment with a hundred
year lifetime.

Hypoid turntables -- when the vinyl hits the road!


I suppose you know what "Hypoid" means..

ps. Citroen inverted what type of gear?

"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:16:11 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

Gear drive turntables provide the lowest possible maintenance. New
developments in synthetic hypoid oil, combined with a concentric rubber
shaft coupling, will finally permit the creation of equipment with a
hundred
year lifetime.

Hypoid turntables -- when the vinyl hits the road!


I suppose you know what "Hypoid" means..

ps. Citroen inverted what type of gear?

The type with sand in it.

"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:16:11 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

Gear drive turntables provide the lowest possible maintenance. New
developments in synthetic hypoid oil, combined with a concentric rubber
shaft coupling, will finally permit the creation of equipment with a
hundred
year lifetime.

Hypoid turntables -- when the vinyl hits the road!


I suppose you know what "Hypoid" means..

ps. Citroen inverted what type of gear?

The hypoid gear was invented by Nikola John Trbojevich
http://www.electrotherapymuseum.com/.../Memorial1.htm
You don't believe all that Citroen hype, do you?

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:22:18 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:16:11 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

Gear drive turntables provide the lowest possible maintenance. New
developments in synthetic hypoid oil, combined with a concentric rubber
shaft coupling, will finally permit the creation of equipment with a
hundred
year lifetime.

Hypoid turntables -- when the vinyl hits the road!


I suppose you know what "Hypoid" means..

ps. Citroen inverted what type of gear?

The hypoid gear was invented by Nikola John Trbojevich
http://www.electrotherapymuseum.com/.../Memorial1.htm
You don't believe all that Citroen hype, do you?

Perhaps, but apparently Citroen "inverted" it.

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:00:30 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:22:18 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:16:11 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

Gear drive turntables provide the lowest possible maintenance. New
developments in synthetic hypoid oil, combined with a concentric rubber
shaft coupling, will finally permit the creation of equipment with a
hundred
year lifetime.

Hypoid turntables -- when the vinyl hits the road!


I suppose you know what "Hypoid" means..

ps. Citroen inverted what type of gear?

The hypoid gear was invented by Nikola John Trbojevich
http://www.electrotherapymuseum.com/.../Memorial1.htm
You don't believe all that Citroen hype, do you?

Perhaps, but apparently Citroen "inverted" it.

I must wean lasses.

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:16:29 +0000, Goofball_star_dot_etal
wrote:

ps. Citroen inverted what type of gear?

The hypoid gear was invented by Nikola John Trbojevich
http://www.electrotherapymuseum.com/.../Memorial1.htm
You don't believe all that Citroen hype, do you?

Perhaps, but apparently Citroen "inverted" it.

I must wean lasses.

chuckle

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:22:18 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:16:11 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

Gear drive turntables provide the lowest possible maintenance. New
developments in synthetic hypoid oil, combined with a concentric rubber
shaft coupling, will finally permit the creation of equipment with a
hundred
year lifetime.

Hypoid turntables -- when the vinyl hits the road!


I suppose you know what "Hypoid" means..

ps. Citroen inverted what type of gear?

The hypoid gear was invented by Nikola John Trbojevich
http://www.electrotherapymuseum.com/.../Memorial1.htm
You don't believe all that Citroen hype, do you?


Did I say they invented the hypoid gear? I asked you if you knew what
it was you had said. (pre-Google). So tell us why you want a motor
sticking out of the side of a turntable, off axis..

"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:22:18 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:16:11 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

Gear drive turntables provide the lowest possible maintenance. New
developments in synthetic hypoid oil, combined with a concentric rubber
shaft coupling, will finally permit the creation of equipment with a
hundred
year lifetime.

Hypoid turntables -- when the vinyl hits the road!


I suppose you know what "Hypoid" means..

ps. Citroen inverted what type of gear?

The hypoid gear was invented by Nikola John Trbojevich
http://www.electrotherapymuseum.com/.../Memorial1.htm
You don't believe all that Citroen hype, do you?


Did I say they invented the hypoid gear? I asked you if you knew what
it was you had said. (pre-Google). So tell us why you want a motor
sticking out of the side of a turntable, off axis..

One advantage of the gear drive turntable is the ability to locate the motor
far from the pickup. A 30' teleflex cable is optimal for the purpose.
Otherwise, remoting the motor a sufficient distance requires drilling a hole
in the floor. This can result in difficult relations for apartment tenants.

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:27:35 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:22:18 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:16:11 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

Gear drive turntables provide the lowest possible maintenance. New
developments in synthetic hypoid oil, combined with a concentric rubber
shaft coupling, will finally permit the creation of equipment with a
hundred
year lifetime.

Hypoid turntables -- when the vinyl hits the road!


I suppose you know what "Hypoid" means..

ps. Citroen inverted what type of gear?

The hypoid gear was invented by Nikola John Trbojevich
http://www.electrotherapymuseum.com/.../Memorial1.htm
You don't believe all that Citroen hype, do you?


Did I say they invented the hypoid gear? I asked you if you knew what
it was you had said. (pre-Google). So tell us why you want a motor
sticking out of the side of a turntable, off axis..

One advantage of the gear drive turntable is the ability to locate the motor
far from the pickup. A 30' teleflex cable is optimal for the purpose.
Otherwise, remoting the motor a sufficient distance requires drilling a hole
in the floor. This can result in difficult relations for apartment tenants.



I think you might be on the wrong track, even for a troll..

Here is the Citroen gear:

http://www.citroen.com.au/cms/defaul...ticle&ID=14753

Robert Morein wrote:


One advantage of the gear drive turntable is the ability to locate the motor
far from the pickup. A 30' teleflex cable is optimal for the purpose.
Otherwise, remoting the motor a sufficient distance requires drilling a hole
in the floor. This can result in difficult relations for apartment tenants.

It's completely unnecessary. A good AC motor built with a nonmagnetic
armature shaft will be undetectable with any known cartridge from even
one foot.