I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

"BrianEWilliams" wrote in message
om...
I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

My recommendation should improve the sound of almost all your records.
A record cleaning machine, such as the VPI.
I consider it one of my best sounding pieces of audio equipment!

Good luck, Brian




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Yustabe said:

"BrianEWilliams" wrote in message
. com...
I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

My recommendation should improve the sound of almost all your records.
A record cleaning machine, such as the VPI.
I consider it one of my best sounding pieces of audio equipment!

Do you own the VPI, Art? I'm wondering, because after more than 20 years, my
Nitty Gritty is really showing signs of dying, and I'm thinking about getting
something new. I've been researching this a little, but I've found few people
that can compare one to the other, since most people pretty much buy one and
stick with it.

I don't want to buy another Nitty Gritty, because I dislike the way the plastic
clamp keeps coming apart, even though I've taken it back to Nitty Gritty a
couple of times to fix/replace it (the company is located nearby). I would
also prefer having a flat 12" platter, like on the VPI, to place the record
while scrubbing, even though some people say it's not good to have this because
it pollutes the entire side of the record. (The Nitty Gritty's platform is
basically the size of a record label, which keeps the down side clean while
scrubbing the other side. However, the record wiggles and flops around too
much if you really have to scrub. If you use the Disc Doctor in conjunction
with a record cleaning machine, you'll know what I mean.)

Boon

Mr. Phillips wrote:


Yustabe said:

"BrianEWilliams" wrote in message
.com...
I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

My recommendation should improve the sound of almost all your records.
A record cleaning machine, such as the VPI.
I consider it one of my best sounding pieces of audio equipment!

Do you own the VPI, Art? I'm wondering, because after more than 20 years, my
Nitty Gritty is really showing signs of dying, and I'm thinking about getting
something new. I've been researching this a little, but I've found few
people
that can compare one to the other, since most people pretty much buy one and
stick with it.

I don't want to buy another Nitty Gritty, because I dislike the way the
plastic
clamp keeps coming apart, even though I've taken it back to Nitty Gritty a
couple of times to fix/replace it (the company is located nearby). I would
also prefer having a flat 12" platter, like on the VPI, to place the record
while scrubbing, even though some people say it's not good to have this
because
it pollutes the entire side of the record. (The Nitty Gritty's platform is
basically the size of a record label, which keeps the down side clean while
scrubbing the other side. However, the record wiggles and flops around too
much if you really have to scrub. If you use the Disc Doctor in conjunction
with a record cleaning machine, you'll know what I mean.)

Boon







Marc, I've owned a VPI 16.5 RCM for about 10 years, and it is built like a
tank. I've virtually had no maintenance or replacement problems with it and
the only think I've ever added to it is a 2nd wand (cf. below) and a
replacement of the "mat" that comes with it after the original wore out. It
may interest you to know that I follow the Disc Doctor protocol and use both
products together. And yes, it is very easy to clean records right on the VPI
RCM's 12" platter with a DD brush and cleaning solution. I use one brush and
DD cleaner as directed by DD, then clean it off with the first wand, then apply
the distilled water rinse with the 2nd DD brush, and then dry the record with
the 2nd VPI wand. This combination of using the DD brushes for
cleaning/rinsing and the VPI RCM for drying both the cleaned record and the
rinsed record seems to work fine.

As for the listener's question about fine sounding LP's, depending on one's
musical tastes, I'd certainly recommend getting some Sheffield direct-to-disc
records on eBay. Most of them are not too expensive, and they are generally
considered among the best sounding LPs ever made. (I like the famous Thelma
Houston disc - I've Got the Music In Me, and for jazz lovers, it's hard to beat
the Harry James big band showpieces).



Bruce J. Richman

Dr. Richman said:

Mr. Phillips wrote:


Yustabe said:

"BrianEWilliams" wrote in message
e.com...
I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

My recommendation should improve the sound of almost all your records.
A record cleaning machine, such as the VPI.
I consider it one of my best sounding pieces of audio equipment!

Do you own the VPI, Art? I'm wondering, because after more than 20 years,
my
Nitty Gritty is really showing signs of dying, and I'm thinking about
getting
something new. I've been researching this a little, but I've found few
people
that can compare one to the other, since most people pretty much buy one and
stick with it.

I don't want to buy another Nitty Gritty, because I dislike the way the
plastic
clamp keeps coming apart, even though I've taken it back to Nitty Gritty a
couple of times to fix/replace it (the company is located nearby). I would
also prefer having a flat 12" platter, like on the VPI, to place the record
while scrubbing, even though some people say it's not good to have this
because
it pollutes the entire side of the record. (The Nitty Gritty's platform is
basically the size of a record label, which keeps the down side clean while
scrubbing the other side. However, the record wiggles and flops around too
much if you really have to scrub. If you use the Disc Doctor in conjunction
with a record cleaning machine, you'll know what I mean.)

Boon







Marc, I've owned a VPI 16.5 RCM for about 10 years, and it is built like a
tank. I've virtually had no maintenance or replacement problems with it and
the only think I've ever added to it is a 2nd wand (cf. below) and a
replacement of the "mat" that comes with it after the original wore out. It
may interest you to know that I follow the Disc Doctor protocol and use both
products together. And yes, it is very easy to clean records right on the
VPI
RCM's 12" platter with a DD brush and cleaning solution. I use one brush and
DD cleaner as directed by DD, then clean it off with the first wand, then
apply
the distilled water rinse with the 2nd DD brush, and then dry the record with
the 2nd VPI wand. This combination of using the DD brushes for
cleaning/rinsing and the VPI RCM for drying both the cleaned record and the
rinsed record seems to work fine.

That's exactly what I needed to hear. It's the 16.5 for me! Thanks, Doc!


As for the listener's question about fine sounding LP's, depending on one's
musical tastes, I'd certainly recommend getting some Sheffield direct-to-disc
records on eBay. Most of them are not too expensive, and they are generally
considered among the best sounding LPs ever made. (I like the famous Thelma
Houston disc - I've Got the Music In Me, and for jazz lovers, it's hard to
beat
the Harry James big band showpieces).

I've had good luck with the Nautilus Half-Speed Masters, too. The Police's
Ghost In The Machine is very clean and natural-sounding, with virtually no
surface noise, even after twenty years. I also like the Opus 3 LPs, but the
performances and performers tend to be of the somewhat obscure variety. I also
agree that MFSLs are hit-and-miss and generally overrated.

Boon

I've had good luck with the Nautilus Half-Speed Masters, too. The Police's
Ghost In The Machine is very clean and natural-sounding, with virtually no
surface noise, even after twenty years. I also like the Opus 3 LPs, but the
performances and performers tend to be of the somewhat obscure variety. I
also
agree that MFSLs are hit-and-miss and generally overrated.

Boon








I highly recomend River Road on Opus 3. Eric Bibb is pretty awsome.

Here is a short list off the top of my head.

Simon and Garfunkel Book Ends Original pressing.

Led Zeppelin Houses of the Holy later U.S. pressing with GP written in the dead
wax.

Donovan A gift from a flower to a Garden. Original Epic stereo

Genesis Tresspass. Japanese pressing

Grateful Dead American Beauty original US pressing

These are just a few that are easy to find for the most part.

As for audiophile reissues I would say that MFSL is hit and miss and tend to be
way over priced. Classics are mostly excellent but they have a few turkies as
well. And DCC when you can find them are consistantly excellent. Speakers
Corner reissues are also excellent. EMI Century reissues are usually good and
the EMI millenium reissues are usually bad. Simply Vinyl varies widely from
title to title.

Then ther is classical and Jazz and other genres. Books have been written on
the subject.

Brian Williams said:

I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

That Heart album does really sound good, doesn't it?

My best sounding LPs are as follows:

Rachmaninoff's Symphonic Dances/Vocalise, recorded by Donald Johanson and the
Dallas S.O., on the Athena label. This is by far the best sounding LP I've
heard. Incredible dynamics.

Sonny Rollins' Way Out West. Shelly Manne's drum kit sounds absolutely real to
me, especially the ride cymbal.

Tsuyushi Yamamoto's Midnight Sugar, on the Three Blind Mice label. Most
realistic piano I've heard on a recording.

Thomas Dolby's The Flat Earth. I know it's mostly synthesizers, but the detail
is incredible, and it sounds clean and punchy.

The Minutemen's Double Nickels On The Dime. One of the greatest rock albums of
all time. The recording is minimalist, as it should be for a rock trio, but it
sounds very, very realistic.

I also have an original Parlophone UK pressing of Sgt. Pepper (not the mono,
unfortunately), and I continue to be amazed at how good it sounds, especially
when compared to other Beatles LPs.

There are many, many more.

Boon

Mr. Phillips wrote:


Brian Williams said:

I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

That Heart album does really sound good, doesn't it?

My best sounding LPs are as follows:

Rachmaninoff's Symphonic Dances/Vocalise, recorded by Donald Johanson and the
Dallas S.O., on the Athena label. This is by far the best sounding LP I've
heard. Incredible dynamics.

Sonny Rollins' Way Out West. Shelly Manne's drum kit sounds absolutely real
to
me, especially the ride cymbal.

Tsuyushi Yamamoto's Midnight Sugar, on the Three Blind Mice label. Most
realistic piano I've heard on a recording.

Thomas Dolby's The Flat Earth. I know it's mostly synthesizers, but the
detail
is incredible, and it sounds clean and punchy.

The Minutemen's Double Nickels On The Dime. One of the greatest rock albums
of
all time. The recording is minimalist, as it should be for a rock trio, but
it
sounds very, very realistic.

I also have an original Parlophone UK pressing of Sgt. Pepper (not the mono,
unfortunately), and I continue to be amazed at how good it sounds, especially
when compared to other Beatles LPs.

There are many, many more.

Boon










Of course, a lot of this depends on musical tastes, but here are a few of my
favorite nominations, from different genres, for best sounding LPs:

Classical:

(1) Fremaux, Birmingham Symphony, Saint-Saens Symphony No. 3 (The "Organ"
Symphony) - on a Klavier Heavy Vinyl release/reissue (if you can't find or
afford the original). Awe-inspiring with great dynamics. As an aside, the
famous melody from this work was heard throughout the soundtrack of "Babe" -
lol.

(2) L.A. Philharmonic, Various selections by Wagner, on a Sheffield
Direct-to-Disc LP - got a Grammy award for engineering excellence when
originally released. Wait until you hear Ride of the Valkyries on this one!

Jazz:

(1) Dave Brubeck - Take Five - on a Columbia Six-Eye, or if too hard to find,
the Classic Records reissue of this jazz classic is excellent.

(2) Any of the 3 Harry James big band LP's on Sheffield Direct-to-Disc LPs - I
like King James version best, but all are exceptional, and you'll think the
musicians are in the room!

(3) Bill Berry - For Duke - on M&K - another fabulous and justly well known
direct-to-disc classic with staggering sonics.

(4) Manhattan Transfer - Live! - on Mobile Fidelity. (Most of the Manhattan
Transfer recordings, even in their non-MoFi versions, are very well done).

(5) L.A. Four - Pavane Pour Une Infante Defunte - on East Wind Direct to Disc
LP - one of the best sounding direct to disc LPs you will ever hear, and worth
what you have to pay for it Mostly brazilian music such as Black Orpheus,
and if you like this you might also want try and find a copy on Verve of "Jazz
Samba" with Stan Getz & Charlie Byrd.

Popular:

(1) Eric Clapton - Unplugged (my copy is on German vinyl) - very realistic,
live recording.

(2) Muddy Waters - Folk Singer - on Mobile Fidelity - one of the best sounding
blues records you will ever hear. Unfortunately, the high demand has driven up
the price for this, but if you hear it and want a truly great listening
experience, you might be tempted to search for a reasonably priced copy.

(3) Soundtrack - Cat People (a Georgio Moroder score), and a hair raising
performance by David Bowie of "Putting Out the Fire With Gasoline". Very dark,
dynamic music that richly conveys the themes of the film. When I was first
trying to decide if purchasing electrostatics would be OK with pulsating,
driving, dynamic music, this was one of the LPs used for a test. I now own
Martin Logans - 'nuff said.

(4) And for something completely different, the Ry Cooder recording of "Jazz".
An unusual collection of different musical instruments, ragtime, slide guitar -
hard to categorize, but Ry Cooder is worth hearing on just about *any* of his
LPs (Chicken Skin Music is also highly recommended). Unless you've won a
lottery, you won't be able to afford the Mobile Fidelity version of "Jazz" ,
but the everyday Warner Bros. version is very good sounding.

(5) Rickie Lee Jones - Try her first album "Rickie Lee Jones" or "Pop Pop" -
the latter is very closely miked, very intimate, and is very well recorded.






Bruce J. Richman

Bruce J. Richman wrote:
Mr. Phillips wrote:



Brian Williams said:


I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these

from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly

interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

That Heart album does really sound good, doesn't it?

My best sounding LPs are as follows:

Rachmaninoff's Symphonic Dances/Vocalise, recorded by Donald Johanson and the
Dallas S.O., on the Athena label. This is by far the best sounding LP I've
heard. Incredible dynamics.

Sonny Rollins' Way Out West. Shelly Manne's drum kit sounds absolutely real
to
me, especially the ride cymbal.

Tsuyushi Yamamoto's Midnight Sugar, on the Three Blind Mice label. Most
realistic piano I've heard on a recording.

Thomas Dolby's The Flat Earth. I know it's mostly synthesizers, but the
detail
is incredible, and it sounds clean and punchy.

The Minutemen's Double Nickels On The Dime. One of the greatest rock albums
of
all time. The recording is minimalist, as it should be for a rock trio, but
it
sounds very, very realistic.

I also have an original Parlophone UK pressing of Sgt. Pepper (not the mono,
unfortunately), and I continue to be amazed at how good it sounds, especially
when compared to other Beatles LPs.

There are many, many more.

Boon











Of course, a lot of this depends on musical tastes, but here are a few of my
favorite nominations, from different genres, for best sounding LPs:

Classical:

(1) Fremaux, Birmingham Symphony, Saint-Saens Symphony No. 3 (The "Organ"
Symphony) - on a Klavier Heavy Vinyl release/reissue (if you can't find or
afford the original). Awe-inspiring with great dynamics. As an aside, the
famous melody from this work was heard throughout the soundtrack of "Babe" -
lol.

(2) L.A. Philharmonic, Various selections by Wagner, on a Sheffield
Direct-to-Disc LP - got a Grammy award for engineering excellence when
originally released. Wait until you hear Ride of the Valkyries on this one!

Jazz:

(1) Dave Brubeck - Take Five -



No such record.

"trotsky" wrote in message
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Jazz:

(1) Dave Brubeck - Take Five -



No such record.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting




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Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
"trotsky" wrote in message
link.net...


Jazz:

(1) Dave Brubeck - Take Five -



No such record.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting


Right. That's an auction for the Brubeck album "Time Out." Wannabe
fans generally can't get the title right.

In article .net,
trotsky wrote:

Bruce J. Richman wrote:

Jazz:

(1) Dave Brubeck - Take Five -



No such record.

Take Five (Columbia 31769)

Okay, it's really the Dave Brubeck Quartet...

Stephen

Stephen wrote:


In article .net,
trotsky wrote:

Bruce J. Richman wrote:

Jazz:

(1) Dave Brubeck - Take Five -



No such record.

Take Five (Columbia 31769)

Okay, it's really the Dave Brubeck Quartet...

Stephen








Of course, "experts" like Singh also think their speakers (and I use the word
advisedly) are much better representations of audio truth than Quads.
So much for his "expertise".


Bruce J. Richman

MiNE 109 wrote:
In article .net,
trotsky wrote:


Bruce J. Richman wrote:


Jazz:

(1) Dave Brubeck - Take Five -



No such record.


Take Five (Columbia 31769)

Okay, it's really the Dave Brubeck Quartet...


Is that a single? I'm pretty sure Bruce was referring to LPs. Not that
you much give a **** about the facts, of course.

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
...


(2) Muddy Waters - Folk Singer - on Mobile Fidelity - one of the best
sounding
blues records you will ever hear. Unfortunately, the high demand has
driven up
the price for this, but if you hear it and want a truly great listening
experience, you might be tempted to search for a reasonably priced copy.


I actually like my Chess pressing better than my MFSL.




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Al Stewart Year of the Cat. See if Al Stewart's lisp comes through.

"BrianEWilliams" wrote in message
om...
I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

"John Steed" wrote in message
news:BFOrb.360959$6C4.21435@pd7tw1no...
Al Stewart Year of the Cat. See if Al Stewart's lisp comes through.

Cat Stevens Tea for the Tillerman, A&M Dbx Record.

ScottW

ScottW wrote:
"John Steed" wrote in message
news:BFOrb.360959$6C4.21435@pd7tw1no...

Al Stewart Year of the Cat. See if Al Stewart's lisp comes through.


Cat Stevens Tea for the Tillerman, A&M Dbx Record.


Yeah, those DBX decoders had exemplary sound quality. Or don't you bother?

"trotsky" wrote in message
...


ScottW wrote:
"John Steed" wrote in message
news:BFOrb.360959$6C4.21435@pd7tw1no...

Al Stewart Year of the Cat. See if Al Stewart's lisp comes through.


Cat Stevens Tea for the Tillerman, A&M Dbx Record.


Yeah, those DBX decoders had exemplary sound quality. Or don't you
bother?

No, I don't bother trying to decipher your incoherrent ramblings.

ScottW

ScottW wrote:
"trotsky" wrote in message
...


ScottW wrote:

"John Steed" wrote in message
news:BFOrb.360959$6C4.21435@pd7tw1no...


Al Stewart Year of the Cat. See if Al Stewart's lisp comes through.


Cat Stevens Tea for the Tillerman, A&M Dbx Record.


Yeah, those DBX decoders had exemplary sound quality. Or don't you

bother?

No, I don't bother trying to decipher your incoherrent ramblings.


Perhaps with your system the record actually sounds better without the
DBX decoding.

Willie Nelson "Stardust"

"BrianEWilliams" wrote in message
om...
I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

jrhslick wrote:


Date: 11/11/2003 8:46 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Willie Nelson "Stardust"

I'm sorry I forgot to mention this one. It's a great recording of standards
with extremely pleasing sonics. On Columbia JC 35305.






Bruce J. Richman

jrhslick said:

Willie Nelson "Stardust"


Are you talking about the MFSL version? I've heard that a couple of times over
the years, and I loved it. I went on e-Bay, however, once or twice to find
one, and decent copies were going for a lot of money. Maybe an original
pressing sounds as good, if not better?

Boon

On 11 Nov 2003 19:03:41 GMT, (Marc Phillips)
wrote:

jrhslick said:

Willie Nelson "Stardust"


Are you talking about the MFSL version? I've heard that a couple of times over
the years, and I loved it. I went on e-Bay, however, once or twice to find
one, and decent copies were going for a lot of money. Maybe an original
pressing sounds as good, if not better?

Boon

This is one of those albums (Columbia pressing - 1Cx, which I assume
is a pretty early pressing) that has sat unheard in my collection (you
might remember that I actually "inherited" a bunch of albums from an
errant roomie and this is one of them).

Wow.

Booker T. did a wonderful production job, espcecially with the
keyboards, which is a little of a surprise in the sense that the
keyboards are mixed back a little - almost perfect to my ear.

I seem to remember The Red Headed Stranger also sounding great, so I'm
going to have to pull that out and listen.

PS, I prefer the sound of Dog and Butterfly to Dreamboat Annie,
especially side 2 (side 1 has never done a lot for me songwise).
Dreamboat Annie always struck me a just a little too much of a good
thing, sonics-wise.

I should now make the requisite Hounds of Love Kate Bush reference.
Once again, side 2 is just extraordinary.

dave said:

On 11 Nov 2003 19:03:41 GMT, (Marc Phillips)
wrote:

jrhslick said:

Willie Nelson "Stardust"


Are you talking about the MFSL version? I've heard that a couple of times
over
the years, and I loved it. I went on e-Bay, however, once or twice to find
one, and decent copies were going for a lot of money. Maybe an original
pressing sounds as good, if not better?

Boon

This is one of those albums (Columbia pressing - 1Cx, which I assume
is a pretty early pressing) that has sat unheard in my collection (you
might remember that I actually "inherited" a bunch of albums from an
errant roomie and this is one of them).

Wow.

Booker T. did a wonderful production job, espcecially with the
keyboards, which is a little of a surprise in the sense that the
keyboards are mixed back a little - almost perfect to my ear.

I seem to remember The Red Headed Stranger also sounding great, so I'm
going to have to pull that out and listen.

PS, I prefer the sound of Dog and Butterfly to Dreamboat Annie,
especially side 2 (side 1 has never done a lot for me songwise).
Dreamboat Annie always struck me a just a little too much of a good
thing, sonics-wise.

I haven't owned any Heart LPs for a long time, probably since I went through my
punk phase in the 80s and sold all my records that were "old school," a
decision I regret today. I always remember Little Queen as being my favorite
album, but I remember really liking the song "Dog and Butterfly." Dreamboat
Annie always sounded really good to me back then, especially "Magic Man."
Hell, "Magic Man" sounds good on my car radio.


I should now make the requisite Hounds of Love Kate Bush reference.
Once again, side 2 is just extraordinary.

Agreed. I have a really nice UK pressing of "The Dreaming," which I used to
use as a reference disc. It's a complex, cluttered mix, and can sound really
awful on inferior equipment. But with the right system, it's pretty awesome.

Boon

Marc Phillips wrote:
dave said:


On 11 Nov 2003 19:03:41 GMT, (Marc Phillips)
wrote:


jrhslick said:


Willie Nelson "Stardust"


Are you talking about the MFSL version? I've heard that a couple of times

over

the years, and I loved it. I went on e-Bay, however, once or twice to find
one, and decent copies were going for a lot of money. Maybe an original
pressing sounds as good, if not better?

Boon

This is one of those albums (Columbia pressing - 1Cx, which I assume
is a pretty early pressing) that has sat unheard in my collection (you
might remember that I actually "inherited" a bunch of albums from an
errant roomie and this is one of them).

Wow.

Booker T. did a wonderful production job, espcecially with the
keyboards, which is a little of a surprise in the sense that the
keyboards are mixed back a little - almost perfect to my ear.

I seem to remember The Red Headed Stranger also sounding great, so I'm
going to have to pull that out and listen.

PS, I prefer the sound of Dog and Butterfly to Dreamboat Annie,
especially side 2 (side 1 has never done a lot for me songwise).
Dreamboat Annie always struck me a just a little too much of a good
thing, sonics-wise.


I haven't owned any Heart LPs for a long time, probably since I went through my
punk phase in the 80s and sold all my records that were "old school," a
decision I regret today. I always remember Little Queen as being my favorite
album, but I remember really liking the song "Dog and Butterfly." Dreamboat
Annie always sounded really good to me back then, especially "Magic Man."
Hell, "Magic Man" sounds good on my car radio.


The word I heard is that "Dreamboat Annie" was recorded in an old
recording studio in Seattle, with tube based equipment. I have no idea
if this is true or not. Both the Nautilus half-speed of "Dreamboat
Annie" and the CBS Mastersound of "Little Queen" are pretty good
sounding records.

On 11 Nov 2003 21:02:05 GMT, (Marc Phillips)
wrote:


This is one of those albums (Columbia pressing - 1Cx, which I assume
is a pretty early pressing) that has sat unheard in my collection (you
might remember that I actually "inherited" a bunch of albums from an
errant roomie and this is one of them).

Wow.

Booker T. did a wonderful production job, espcecially with the
keyboards, which is a little of a surprise in the sense that the
keyboards are mixed back a little - almost perfect to my ear.

I seem to remember The Red Headed Stranger also sounding great, so I'm
going to have to pull that out and listen.

Did it and found out that Stardust is quite a bit better. If you
hadn't heard Stardust recently, it would sound extremely good. Yet,
Stardust sounds so much more natural.

PS, I prefer the sound of Dog and Butterfly to Dreamboat Annie,
especially side 2 (side 1 has never done a lot for me songwise).
Dreamboat Annie always struck me a just a little too much of a good
thing, sonics-wise.

I haven't owned any Heart LPs for a long time, probably since I went through my
punk phase in the 80s and sold all my records that were "old school," a
decision I regret today. I always remember Little Queen as being my favorite
album, but I remember really liking the song "Dog and Butterfly." Dreamboat
Annie always sounded really good to me back then, especially "Magic Man."
Hell, "Magic Man" sounds good on my car radio.

When I inherited the large stash of LPs, I got a lot of things that I
had in my pre-punk days. You know, all of the Kansas albums - Ted
Nugent, Pat Travers, Journey, etc. Of course, I got a buttload of
half-speed mastered stuff and some choice classical stuff as well. But
i also got some things that might be considered "guilty pleasure"
stuff as well, like Heart, Loggins and Messina, etc. And I got almost
all of the Heart except for the first one, including a half-speed
mastered Little Queen, which I'm going to go put on and see if it's
worn well (I still love Barracuda g). Nada One/Mistral Wind are
worth the price of admission alone on Dog and Butterfly. I still like
calling side one the "Dog" side. g

I should now make the requisite Hounds of Love Kate Bush reference.
Once again, side 2 is just extraordinary.

Agreed. I have a really nice UK pressing of "The Dreaming," which I used to
use as a reference disc. It's a complex, cluttered mix, and can sound really
awful on inferior equipment. But with the right system, it's pretty awesome.

I've got a nice German pressing as well as a slightly battered US
pressing. Fortunately, I just replaced my trashed version of Hounds of
Love with a mint British marbled vinyl copy, a record that I'm playing
quite sparingly, thank you very much.

The dynamics on side two of Hounds of Love is are just amazing, and,
as you say about The Dreaming, quite cluttered at times. I love
listening to it on a rainy night at 1 am.

Agreed. I have a really nice UK pressing of "The Dreaming," which I used to
use as a reference disc. It's a complex, cluttered mix, and can sound really
awful on inferior equipment. But with the right system, it's pretty awesome.

Boon







As a hard core Kate fan I have to say All the Love from The Dreaming is one of
the most haunting songs I have ever heard. I am going to be doing a shoot out
between the Simply Vinyl, EMI Century, original English issues and Japanese
issues of Kick Inside and Hounds of Love real soon.

(BrianEWilliams) wrote in message . com...
I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

Dude,

That's a great record. If you want to hear something that'll really
knock the socks of your ass, check out BACK IN BLACK on vinyl. I'm
tellin' you, it'll blow you away. If you want crunch, look no further.

Rock On,

Todd LaRoc
http://profiles.yahoo.com/toddlaroc

In article ,
(Todd LaRoc) wrote:

(BrianEWilliams) wrote in message
. com...
I recently setup my LP playback system after a long break, and I have
really been enjoying listening to it. I notice a VAST difference in
the sound quality of various LP's, and I am interested in suggestions
for some good sounding LP's. I may end up trying to buy some of these
from Ebay, and I would really appreciate input. FWIW, I am mostly
interested in popular vocal music with a strong emotional quality.

My own nomination for the best sounding LP is Heart's first album.
WOW! Everytime I listen to it, I end up somewhere a million miles
away. Not sure how they did it, but the band, producer, and engineers
really deserve a pat on the back.

Dude,

That's a great record. If you want to hear something that'll really
knock the socks of your ass, check out BACK IN BLACK on vinyl. I'm
tellin' you, it'll blow you away. If you want crunch, look no further.

There's a new release. Anyone heard it?

Stephen